BS: Anyone changed their mind about Iraq?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone changed their mind about Iraq?
From: AKS
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 07:57 AM

No change, I still think that if the US want to invade Iraq and kick out its present regime,

1) it will be a relatively easy mission, no doubt,

2) but the US (or rather the rest of the world) will be facing the problem how to introduce some basic elements of democracy to establish a widely enough acceptable government to prevent god-knows-how-long-lasting chaos or, even worse, civil war(s) in Iraq - not to mention what 'troubles' may indirectly be caused in the neighbouring countries,

3) while Al Qaeda and other 'networks' like it (weren't they named enemies in the war against terrorism in the first place?!) remain intact, though more motivated on vengeance, and thus more severe a threat to the US, the coalition and their citizens than before, probably severer than Saddam's Iraq ever would (have) be(en).

AKS

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone changed their mind about Iraq?
From: Gareth
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:31 PM

Yes I have changed my mind - I was uncertain at first about the morality and legallity, the arguements have convinved me that this war is an evil neccessity.

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone changed their mind about Iraq?
From: *daylia*
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 01:12 PM

No change, except that the facts presented in these discussions have perhaps deepened my opposition to Western military imperialism.

AKS - the biggest problem America will face in introducing Iraq to "some basic elements of democracy" is that you can't teach what you truly don't know.

However, that scenario is highly unlikely - US military tradition is to pull out as soon as it's economic/oil interests are secured, leaving the conquered people in chaos and their less high-and-mighty allies to bury the dead and clean up the mess. I suspect the same will happen in Iraq.

This US administration cares NOTHING for the processes of 'democracy', as evidenced by their trampling of the UN and international law.
Murderous fascists masquerading as proponents of freedom and democracy for the sake of economic gain? Sorry bout the rant, but the blindness and stupidity of war and the lies which support it can really infuriate me, when I let myself go there!

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone changed their mind about Iraq?
From: artbrooks
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:05 PM

Well, Dayla, lets look at some facts: the US rebuilt Europe and Japan after World War II, rebuilt Korea after the Korean War, was forced to leave Vietnam, rebuilt Kuwait after the Gulf War, is still in Afganistan, and that war isn't finished. Care to be more specific about US military tradition is to pull out as soon as it's economic/oil interests are secured?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone changed their mind about Iraq?
From: GUEST,Raedwulf
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 06:41 PM

Nope. I still think war is a shit option. I still think it's the only option, unfortunately... :(

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone changed their mind about Iraq?
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 07:40 PM

YES or NO will do(with maybe a little explanation). I'm just trying a little survey here. There are currently 238 other threads for expressing you no doubt heartfelt opinions on the war in Iraq.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone changed their mind about Iraq?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 04:53 AM

I don't know whether you are going to count my vote as a Yes or a No, Greg, so I have to explain a bit more.

Yes, for during the last months I have changed slowly from undecided to a No to this war, mainly due to a dearth of convincing evidence from both the British and the USA governments. From press conference to press conference I considered their arguments weaker and weaker. And the frequent change of main reasons given for this war hasn't enhanced my confidence in both governments.

No, if you mean Mudcat's discussions have changed my mind. I didn't find the arguments from the contra-war side very convincing here. Too many of the No-people argue in a too emotional way for my personal liking (though I may be in a minority for wanting to hear arguments instead of emotions even in questions of death or war). Surely not the only one, but a notable exception for me on the contra-side is McGrath who always argues in addition to gut feelings. However, on the balance of the posts, if my only source of information would have been Mudcat I might have come out on the pro-side or still undecided.

Wolfgang