BS: Scotland - Closing down sale

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 06:28 PM

Raedwulf,

As a school caretaker who has managed after many years of service to work my way UP to the princely sum of £15000 p.a., you won't find me agreeing to your affluent tag.

My salary is about half the national average.

Re. travels in Scotland, you will note that I said caravanning, and the holiday encompassed a few tourist traps, but for the most part was in the wilder off-the-beaten-track areas, so I think that the prices I found are pretty general. They were on average about 10 to 15 percent higher than at home.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 07:31 PM

ake, the same things have been happening in Colorado for years. Though not all windfarms, but developments. All over the forest, canyons, orchards, ranches, etc. are being eaten up by developers who sell the same, generic looking boxes to Californian and other retirees who made a killing selling out wherever they came from and now are running up the prices of everything here, esp. real estate. Some of them have a fele for the land and the beauty, but not the majority, imo.

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 04:51 AM

" I'm just a tad dubious about hard-done-by remarks made by miserly Scot's gits!"

What about us poor hard done by students trying to live off 3k a year? At least if you go to uni in London you get an extra £1000 living allowence!

Crystal (on another Pc!)

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 09:31 AM

I know why the Scots are selling out!

I've just seen the TV doco that explains that global warming is causing increased northern hemisphere rainfall and ice melting. This is causing the Gulf Stream 'heat elevator' to shut down in the near future, because the extra fresh water from the extra melting ice and the increased river flow from Siberia will dilute the salinity of the cold salty water that falls due to its higher density and then flows south to start the flow all over again. This will cause Scotland to freeze over solid, so they are selling out to the dumb English and all going to live in the south of France on the Med.

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: Metchosin
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 02:02 PM

Oh dear, I hope it doesn't close down until after 2007. We were hoping to stay at this place which is where or within about 100 yds. of where my husband's family lived prior to 1839. I was so happy to find that we could bring the dogs......And I understand there's a great annual Folk Festival in Denholm. But perhaps if Scotland's truly closing down, we could expect a wee break on the price......? we don't fancy golf too much.

Of course now, we'll also have the ethical dilema of the sociological and economic implications of our visit, as well as adding to the enviromental effect of freezing the place up with our jet plane ride over the pole, to consider too.

It does seem a puzzler that so little of the land, even after almost 300 years, actually belongs privately or publicly to the people of Scotland, considering that the country was the cradle to so many firebrands regarding such stuff. Perhaps they were all driven out.

See you all in a couple of years, if the fates and money allow.....hope you don't mind a couple of extra Westies too. They don't have any cash to spend on really touristy stuff, but they are even more friendly and enthusiastic than their travelling companions. Does anyone know if Canadian tourists seeking to experience their roots in 2007, with dogs in tow, will be too late to explore the area around Dornoch as well?

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: DougR
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 04:19 PM

Metchosin: Lovely cottage! I don't blame you for hoping scotland stays afloat.

Are there restrictions on bringing dogs into Scotland? I was under the impression that it is quite complicated.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:04 PM

According to this site, one might avoid the 6 month quarantine, IF all requirements are met.

Looks beautiful, Mets!

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: Metchosin
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 11:42 PM

It is beautiful isn't it! I imagine it was quite a rip for them to come from something like that, to the Ontario wilderness and start anew. Amazingly resourceful and couragous people that pioneered this continent. We sometimes seem like such friggin' whining wimps by comparison.

Yeah the dogs are a bit complicated, but not as much as they used to be. And besides, how could we ever deny them the opportunity to show them the place where Colonel Malcolm decided that white dogs were a good idea, lest they be mistaken for game and shot in error. BG

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 05:13 AM

Dont forget all the great things that the Scots invented like the two Aberdonians who invented copper wire after an arguement over a penny!

The other posibility with global warming is that half of England will be under water and most of Scotland will be high and dry. Here's to more global warming!

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 05:18 AM

It may be dry, but it will be bloody cold - under a kilometre or ss of glacier...

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 07:18 AM

It's just what the Cairngorm skiing industry needs...

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: Metchosin
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:39 AM

Well gee, I do hope the glacier hangs about in the Minto Craggs and the little cottage further below in the valley will be spared, but that doesn't bode well for Dornoch. Guess we better start training the dogs to pull a sled in case we have to mush our way into the Highlands.

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: DougR
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 04:26 PM

Good luck with the dogs. I certainly don't blame you for wanting to take them but there sure are a lot of hoops you have to jump through to qualify. I just read the blue clicky kat supplied and it sounds a bit complicated.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: Metchosin
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 09:33 PM

A few vaccinations and worming, in a timely manner seems a reasonable hoop for a dog to jump through.

The requirement now, for Canadians to present a passport in order to visit the US is a hoop too. Annoying, but no real big deal.

However, the requirement that one now must give the address and zip code of where one will be staying when in the US, could be a bit of a poser. Guess overnight camp/parking in a Walmart parking lots is out, as well as leisurely drives down the coast, taking your own sweet time. Will they bring out the jack boots if we vary our route or fail to show up on time?

Makes travel and camping in Canada seem an even better alternative. Especially when we can jump in the car and tell the dogs we're off on an adventure! Lets see where we end up tonight! No spontaneous side trips in the US for us anymore; there are hoops and then there are road blocks ....pity.

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: GUEST,Jorrox
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 06:42 AM

Does any other Scot take real offence to 'sweaty'?
It is every bit as offensive as 'paki' 'mick' or whatever.
As is 'jock' for that matter. If you doubt this, ask yourself "what is the English equivalent of the word 'jock'?"
Grrrrr
Jorrox

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: Teribus
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 11:11 AM

Enjoy your trip Metchosin, I don't know about a Folk Festival centred on Denholm but it does host a Folk Club out of the Cross Keys. The other pub in the village, The Fox and Hounds, is a hoot, full of some great characters. On top of the Minto Craig was an Peel Tower that celebrated under the name of 'Fatlips' Castle. It was up for sale a few years ago, I'd appreciate a quick line as to its fate.

Subject: RE: BS: Scotland - Closing down sale
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 04:03 AM

There is a Festival at Denholm. This year Nov 4th -6th. Take a look on the Scotbordersfolk.org web site for his years programe.