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BS: The mudcat think tank

Amos 02 Jun 06 - 11:46 PM
GUEST,Mack 03 Jun 06 - 10:04 AM
GUEST 03 Jun 06 - 01:53 PM
Amos 03 Jun 06 - 02:13 PM
GUEST,Mack 03 Jun 06 - 08:30 PM
freda underhill 03 Jun 06 - 09:01 PM
The Fooles Troupe 03 Jun 06 - 09:06 PM
Amos 03 Jun 06 - 11:42 PM
The Fooles Troupe 04 Jun 06 - 07:27 AM
GUEST,Bill 04 Jun 06 - 10:52 AM
GUEST,Frank 04 Jun 06 - 11:23 AM
GUEST,Rufus 04 Jun 06 - 12:14 PM
Amos 04 Jun 06 - 01:10 PM
GUEST 05 Jun 06 - 11:56 AM
GUEST,Rufus 05 Jun 06 - 12:05 PM
Amos 05 Jun 06 - 12:37 PM
GUEST,the inventor 05 Jun 06 - 12:58 PM
Amos 05 Jun 06 - 01:33 PM
GUEST,Rufus 05 Jun 06 - 02:58 PM
The Fooles Troupe 05 Jun 06 - 07:43 PM
beardedbruce 05 Jun 06 - 08:54 PM
Bobert 05 Jun 06 - 09:07 PM
GUEST,Rufus 05 Jun 06 - 09:33 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 05 Jun 06 - 11:48 PM
GUEST,Rufus 07 Jun 06 - 11:20 PM
The Fooles Troupe 07 Jun 06 - 11:28 PM
GUEST,Rufus 08 Jun 06 - 11:45 AM
The Fooles Troupe 08 Jun 06 - 07:30 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 11:46 PM

There, at least is something that the Prez and Veep are doing right. Karl is obviously sharing part of one of his many moronic identities with the marionette President.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Mack
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:04 AM

Do those people who are clearly and unequivocally smarter than Amos ever disagree with him?

If so they are vituperous and rather dull-witted not-quite bright people.

He constantly talks down to anyone that questions his judgment. He this his purpose in life is to judge and criticize but he takes the arrogant position that he is immune to any criticism. Anybody that points this out is termed rather dull-witted not-quite bright. Not smart enough to grasp the fact that Amos knows it all.

I am sorry but I do not see the Emperor's new clothes and I am not afraid to say so.

By the way I think Bush totally has his head up his ass on what to do about illegal immigrants. Notice the key words "I think". If anybody disagrees they are invited to say so. I won't try to assume Greek God status and call them stupid for doing so.

The only people I call stupid are the ones that think they are so smart they can define themselves.

M


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:53 PM

'Anybody that points this out is termed rather dull-witted not-quite bright.'

In your case it's true.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:13 PM

Mack:

You do me great disservice.

I have never called anyone stupid for countering any opinion of my with some kind of coherent and articulate argument based on facts or a genuine desire to exchange opinions. I think if you look down the back trail you will find I have gotten into that sort of fire-fight with people who resort to gross mischaracterizations, ad hominem attacks, and poorly done rhetorical devices which don't get said what they may think.

Your last comment is really intriguing. I think I know what you mean, but I could be wrong. I think, at one level, that everyone defines themselves -- at least, in the final analysis, I don't see where else the formative definition of who you are could possibly come from.

But clarify for me -- where does your self get its definition from?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Mack
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 08:30 PM

No Amos. You just declare that their argument lacks merit (by your standards) and there fore does not matter.

I don't consider "This man is a fucking MAROOOON!" coherent and articulate. Does it meet your standards for articulate and coherent?

No one can or should try to define themselves but I perceive you as riding a high horse and full of phony self serving philosophical bullshit and self righteousness. Does your understanding of "Avatar" make you deserving of such stature?

It sort of reminds me of the guy that nailed up a piece of clothes line and declared it art. Of course all of the self declared art lovers had to agree. Excuuuuuse me but all I see is some rope.

Even Einstein questioned himself. He said in essence that nuclear fission could not happen but when someone, not even of his caliber, Szilard, explained to him his theory of how fission could occur, He realized he was wrong and wrote a letter to President Roosevelt warning him of the danger of an atomic bomb

Now who is smarter than you and have they ever told you that you were wrong?

Did you ever choke on anything?

Mack


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 09:01 PM

Amos

I read & enjoyed that Bush administration thread very much, and am sorry it was brought down by nasties.

re the think tank

just back from Austria (this is my current mantra!) where recycling is legislated. EVERYONE separates plastics, biodegradables, and other rubbish. It goes into three small bins in the kitchen and three large bins in every street.

freda


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 09:06 PM

"Excuuuuuse me but all I see is some rope. ... Even Einstein questioned himself."

Which only proves that you are very courageous and proud in insisting on retaining a very narrow minded view of the world...

sigh...


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:42 PM

Mack:

"No-one should try to define themselves." Interesting thought. Why not?

You are right, I have cast ad hominem slurs on Mister Bush, and I have called him a maroon. You may be too young to recognize the provenance of that phrase from early Warner Brothers cartoons. But I think if you look at the places where I made such remarks they each are in a context which makes it quite clear what prompted the remark.

As for "declaring arguments lack merit" unilaterally, I remember doing that once -- perhaps you posted something under another alias that I was disrespectful about? If you want to tell me about, it feel free. I believe I have good reasons for saying what I do and am always glad to expound on them, if you're really interested. My sense is that you're not, though -- probably just pissed off.

As regards questioning myself, believe me, I do it often. But thanks for the challenge. I'll chew it over some.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 07:27 AM

And when you don't Amos, rest assured there will be a long queue...
:-)

You could always tell this guy to get in the Far Queue...


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Bill
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 10:52 AM

That which we call a piece of rope by any other name be something other than a piece of rope?


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 11:23 AM

2 major issues. The iraqi occupation and the stealing of the American vote.

Connect the dots.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 12:14 PM

And the South shall rise agin cause we didn't loose.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 01:10 PM

I think you mean "lose", Rufus.

"Loose" means not fully attached or not tightly connected... which may be appropriate...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 11:56 AM

Inbreeding. No point arguing, Amos.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:05 PM

What does inbreeding mean? Like fried chiken?


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:37 PM

Back to the topic, the Mudcat Think Tank is a good place to put some of the bright possibilities for a better future down, given that some of the brightest and best-intentioned people in the world visit these pages... just don't ask which ones! :D

For example, what are the best avenues to resolve the major crises of planetary life in this century?

One such crisis is that homo sapiens gets violent when threatened by lack or loss. But he tends to be less so when engaged in self-determined productive activity which enhances his survival. The critical resources for expanding that ability (and thus reducing violence) are water and energy. Given enough of those two things, almost anything is possible, including terraforming the deserts to render them arable.

Of course, the kind of social inventions needed to make technical solutions possible and viable is also an issue -- for example, breaking the lock on alternative enrgy usage imposed by vested interests. OR somehow breaking the "catastrophic greed" syndrome that has ruined the great nations of whales, seals, sea-birds and molluscs which once populated the oceans of the North. The sad history of the Canadian governments protection of seal-slaughtering and rampant overfishing comes to mind.

Come one, come all.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,the inventor
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:58 PM

Acoustic lensing of water fracturing ultra sound will become many factors cheaper than current electrolosis that requires much more electricity than my ultra sound cavitation technique to produce hydrogen for fuel cells.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 01:33 PM

Dear GtI:

Have you reduced this to practice? Can you,. if so, provide some numbers reflecting energy in (in joules) and hydrogen-based energy produced?

I find your remark mostinteresting, because I have often thought the right cavitation frequency of ultrasound should enable a profitable input/output ratio, but have never had time to reduce it to practice.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 02:58 PM

Horses an buggys. Wood stoves. Grow your own food etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 07:43 PM

We already have too many, we don't need to grow any more fools..


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 08:54 PM

Guest, Rufus,

An excellent idea. Of course, the earth could only support about 1/10 the present population- So I presume you won't mind if I decide which 9 out of 10 have to go away? (SARCASM)


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 09:07 PM

Yo, Rufus...

When did you get a pudder??? Sheeeet, boy, yer movin' up in the world, ain't ya, son??? How's the lovely Rether May??? They still havin' that Saturday night chuggun' party behind the Sweat Springs Store up top the mountain...

Hey, wait a minute... Wood stoves??? Well, yeah but you was never into growin' yer own food.... Sheeeet fire, boy.... You done fooled me....

Ahhhhhh, hmmmmmmmm??? You is Rufus Timpkins, ain't cha???

(Think you got yerseff mixerated up there, Bobert...)

Nevermind...

Bobert (prolly not yer couzin...)


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 09:33 PM

Who???

Grow your own. Roll your own and still your own dew.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 11:48 PM

Let the masters decree in the third degree
We may live with a portion of peace
So all people may see...and albeit agree
That aggression must finally cease

With a peacetime enduring we shall be insuring
A future both caring and deep
And in beauty procuring sweet passion's alluring
To lift us inspired from our sleep

May walking in stride with Jesus give pride
That heals with knowing and faith
With such kindness inside everyone can abide
To the conscience that brings us to grace

Shall we wish to enjoy with nary a ploy
The enrichment of land, seas and souls
Ner again to deploy revenge as a toy
To entangle our love with false goals

So as One with our hearts we could move from Decartes
And take science to where it may florish
We shall all play our parts without help from Sartre's
And find meaning in all that we nourish

So if thinking be good, seems t'me that it could
Let's agree then we've outgrown this box
For it's well understood that we can and we should
Graduate from this school of hard knocks

ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:20 PM

The bestest ideas I have heard yet on how to dispose of depleted youranium is to cast it concrete slugs encased in stainless steel and drop 'em into ocean trenches where they will get sucked back down into the mantle of the earth.

Or launch them into the Sun.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:28 PM

"Set the controls for the heart of the Sun"

and hope that the rockets don;t fallback due to failure on launch..


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus
Date: 08 Jun 06 - 11:45 AM

Us rocket sientists know that once you get out of earth's gravitational field the Sun takes over.


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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Jun 06 - 07:30 PM

Just hope you can 'ride the rails' direct here and not bump into anything else on the way...


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