BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 08:48 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 09:11 AM

I'm pleased to see that there are now more than 32,000 signatures on the petition.

I have always been a Joanna Lumley fan but I admire her even more now with the support she is giving to the gurkhas.

The media coverage has (IMO) been a little thin when you consider the unnewsworthy things we are bombarded with on a daily basis; some of them for an extended period of time too.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 09:30 AM

We follow this petition with great interest and support from across the Great Pond.

I'm pleased to see such unified support from Mudcat members, and almost all guests, for this petition and the issues it's responding to.

I do wonder what pensions were provided the various German mercenaries who were hired by the Crown to put down our little rebellion. I believe it was pretty much a flat-rate payout based on whether they survived, what limbs they might have been lost, or whether they were killed. There is certainly an entire history of such injustice to the troops and no nation has a monopoly on such injustice. Another case in point would be the status of Iraqies hired as translators in the Bush Administration's current adventure.

Good luck on this petition effort.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:39 PM

Gurkhas fighting for the right to retire in the UK will hear tomorrow if they have won their legal battle. Judge Mr Justice Blake will rule on the High Court case heard last week. Here

33,640 signatures

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 04:03 PM

nd mine's one of 'em. And Mrs. Fenswoman's.
Fingers crossed, Eanjay, although I'm not holding my breath.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:25 AM

Definitely got my fingers crossed today.

I enjoyed reading this: Pendletoday .

33,722 signatures

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: GUEST,Lauro
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:11 AM

The UK is not a charity, nor is it a free loaders paradise. I wrote to my MP and made my feelings clear that they MUST NOT be allowed to remain in the UK. What kind of message would it send out if they were allowed to live here ? I am glad to say there is strong feeling here against these people receiving special treatment.

I see in the press they are now coming up with crap to stay in the UK, this is low, still it won't work. We are not a feeding bowl.

"47 ex-British Army Gurkhas are on "death row" awaiting kidney transplants they can never afford after the Government turned its back on them. Lawyers acting for the former soldiers believe many have kidney problems because they did not get enough water while serving Britain in hot climates".

I never read such hock in my life.

Each served at least 15 years before returning to poverty-stricken Nepal.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:13 AM

Gurkhas await High Court ruling on right to stay in Britain

23 minutes ago



LONDON (AFP) - Former Nepalese Gurkha soldiers were on Tuesday awaiting a High Court ruling on their demand for the right to settle in Britain, which could effect the future of 2,000 such veterans.

A lawyer for the old soldiers voiced hope that the verdict -- the climax of a two-year legal battle for Gurkhas who retired before 1997 and thus do not automatically have the right to live here -- would go their way.

"The decision... will be historic, the culmination of a hard-fought two-year legal battle seeking justice for some 2,000 Gurkhas whose only fault was to retire prior to July 1, 1997," said solicitor Martin Howe.

"I sincerely hope that the court's judgement will strike down the government's policy barring from Britain a class of loyal Gurkhas who stood by this country and risked their lives and limbs for the freedoms and values that we all enjoy," he added.

Gurkhas who retired after 1997, when their base was moved from Hong Kong to England, can stay in Britain.

But those who retired earlier and whose individual cases were decided by visa officials in Kathmandu and Hong Kong must apply for permission to stay and may be refused and deported.

All other foreign soldiers in the army have a right to settle in Britain after four years of service anywhere in the world.

Around 200,000 Gurkhas fought for Britain in World Wars I and II, and about 3,500 currently serve in the army, including in Afghanistan and Iraq.

More than 45,000 have died serving Britain.

The Gurkhas, who are renowned for their bravery and ferocious fighting skills, have also struggled for many years for equal pension rights as their British army counterparts.

Tuesday's ruling was expected around 2:00 pm.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 09:30 AM

Excellent news; this has made my day.

It is the RIGHT decision.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 09:35 AM

another link

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: eddie1
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 10:10 AM

From the BBC News website:

'Gurkhas win right to stay in UK

A group of retired Gurkhas fighting for the right to settle in Britain have won their immigration test case, their lawyers have said.
Five ex-Gurkhas and the widow of another Gurkha veteran took their case to the High Court in London.
They were challenging immigration rules which said that those who retired from the British Army before 1997 did not have an automatic right to stay.
The judgement could affect some 2,000 former Gurkhas.
The regiment moved its main base from Hong Kong to the UK in 1997 and the government had argued that Gurkhas discharged before that date were unlikely to have strong residential ties with the UK.
That meant those who wanted to settle in the UK had to apply for British residence and could be refused and deported.

'Common sense'
The judge, Mr Justice Blake, said the Gurkhas' long service, conspicuous acts of bravery and loyalty to the Crown all pointed to a "moral debt of honour" and gratitude felt by British people.
Laywer Martin Howe said: "Today we have seen a tremendous and historic victory for the gallant Gurkha veterans of Nepal.
"This is a victory that restores honour and dignity to deserving soldiers who faithfully served in Her Majesty's armed forces.
"It is a victory for common sense; a victory for fairness; and a victory for the British sense of what is right." '

Thank God for common sense!

Pete Seeger said "Working for peace is like adding sand to a basket on one side of a giant scale, trying to tip it our way despite enormous weight on the opposite side; but if we get enough people adding sand with teaspoons, even if everybody else is laughing at us, we can tip the scales."

We were working for something else here but, in signing the petition we were adding our teaspoon!

Eddie

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: sapper82
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 12:11 PM

Good news indeed!

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 04:07 PM

Amazingly good news!

Three cheers for justice, and one for the Queen!

And ship the naysayers overseas where they can earn their right to a Royal British Army pension.


Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:12 PM

Fantastic.

I am smiling from ear to ear.

What a great day.

The British have given themselves good reason to be proud and call their nation great.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: GUEST,Ivan
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:13 PM

This is great news!

Can't believe that this government refused to allow more than 2,000 Gurkhas to settle here, who had SERVED and FOUGHT FOR this country, while at the same time having allowed at least tens of thousands of fundamentalist Muslims from Algeria, Saudi, Somalia, etc. to come here, who then FIGHT AGAINST this country!

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:15 PM

"tens of thousands of fundamentalist Muslims from Algeria, Saudi, Somalia, etc. to come here, who then FIGHT AGAINST this country!"

Gosh - I'm amazed that this didn't get on to the news ...

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Teribus
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:45 PM

Absolutely fantastic news - Certainly made my day.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: GUEST,Oakville
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:21 PM

I saw it on the news tonight. I saw that old tart Joanna Lumley RAF (Rough as F**k) who is normally fond of young men moving among them. Is an old Gurkha slipping her one ?

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:22 PM

Great news.

Good to have something on which we can all agree, whatever our differences about other things. (I set aside that odd GUEST a couple of posts back.)

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:25 PM

Actually it was a dozen posts back.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jack Campin
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:17 PM

: As an ex-serviceman, I am naturally biased in favour of the Gurkhas, for whom I have
: great admiration and respect. They put the fear of God up the Argentinian soldiers
: during the Falklands War (apparently), and I'm not surprised---their reputation
: as fighters,especially at close quarters,is legendary.

The way I had this episode described: they went over the battlefield at Goose Green slitting the throats of wounded and defenceless Argentinian soldiers while wearing Walkmans to drown out the screams.

Maybe no more murderously ghoulish than much of what British soldiers have done in the last couple of decades, but let's cut this sanctificatory crap. They were hired killers in it for the money just like the rest of the British Army.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: GUEST,Lauro
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 04:32 AM

Ah isn't that nice. Thanks Jack for that gem of information.


"The way I had this episode described: they went over the battlefield at Goose Green slitting the throats of wounded and defenceless Argentinian soldiers while wearing Walkmans to drown out the screams".

They will do well in Britains knife society. I think we are around three a week in London, four a week in Manchester and twice that in Bradford.

Great, more leeches, and leeches that can use a blade !

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Penny S.
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 04:33 AM

Joanna Lumley was involved because her father was an officer with the Gurkhas. Having met her in the village where her parents lived, the description above is pretty nasty. She would go round the village with a binbag picking up other people's rubbish. She was very sympathetic to my sister, when she was heavily pregnant with twins and had to rest at some local do. She's a very nice person.

And I agree with the decision, and the judge's opinion about honour.

I gather that our own nationals also used rather nasty methods to deal with the Argentinians. Nasty business all round. As is the way that most nations deal with ex-military.

Did anyone notice the name of the barrister put up by the government to oppose the case? Very indigenous.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: GUEST,Lauro
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 05:15 AM

Penny,if an older guy favours much younger women, he tends to get called a dirty old man. When an old rough one like this woman chases young guys people like yourself tend to ignore it.

Sorry I strongly disagree with the decision and these cutthroats as Jack pointed out are no assest to us.

You say her father was an officer in the regiment, was he a Tiddy Wink ?

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 05:17 AM

A statue as a tribute to the Gurkhas' bravery, courage and loyalty will be unveiled in Maidstone tomorrow.

Well, slagging off Joanna Lumley makes a change from slagging off mudcat members! LOL. No need for any of it though.

Wars are terrible things and atrocities happen on both sides. My father worked with the Gurkhas and his experiences with them are different to those that were described to Jack Campin.

hired killers in it for the money just like the rest of the British Army.

No, that is not a fair description of the British Army.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: GUEST,Lauro
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 06:48 AM

Nice to see so much support for men who take up arms and kill. So cutting throats is okay with you guys ?

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Mississippi Saxaphone
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 07:17 AM

Great news indeed. Common sense has prevailed.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Teribus
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 05:57 PM

"The way I had this episode described: they went over the battlefield at Goose Green slitting the throats of wounded and defenceless Argentinian soldiers while wearing Walkmans to drown out the screams."

Taking the first one Campin Jack, I think that they would have a bit of trouble doing that, don't you? For a start to slit someone's throat, whether wearing a "walkman" or not, you would first and foremost have to be there.

From account of the action at Goose Green:
The British force consisted of three rifle, one patrol, one support and the HQ company of Lieutenant-Colonel Herbert 'H' Jones' 2nd Battalion the Parachute Regiment (2 Para) which had the following support: three 105mm artillery pieces with 960 shells from 29 Commando Regiment, Royal Artillery; one MILAN anti-tank missile platoon; Scout helicopters, and at dusk, air support was provided by three Royal Air Force Harriers later in the battle. HMS Arrow shelled the Argentine advanced positions. Lieutenant-Colonel Jones commanded the battalion.

Account of Initial Landing:
The 4,000 men of 3 Commando Brigade were put ashore as follows: 2nd battalion of the Parachute Regiment (2 Para) from the RORO ferry Norland and 40 Commando (Royal Marines) from the amphibious ship HMS Fearless were landed at San Carlos (Blue Beach), 3 Para from the amphibious ship HMS Intrepid were landed at Port San Carlos (Green Beach) and 45 Commando from RFA Stromness were landed at Ajax Bay (Red Beach). Notably the waves of 8 LCUs and 8 LCVPs were led by Major Ewen Southby-Tailyour who had commanded the Falklands detachment only a year previously. 42 Commando on the liner SS Canberra was a tactical reserve. Units from the Royal Artillery, Royal Engineers etc. and tanks were also put ashore with the landing craft, the Round table class LSL and mexeflote barges. Rapier missile launchers were carried as underslung loads of Sea Kings for rapid deployment.

By dawn the next day they had established a secure beachhead from which to conduct offensive operations. From there Brigadier Thompson's plan was to capture Darwin and Goose Green before turning towards Port Stanley. Now, with the British troops on the ground, the Argentine Air Force began the night bombing campaign against them using Canberra bomber planes until the last day of the war (14 June).

Any mention there of 1st Battalion of the 7th Gurkhas Jack?? They were the only ones down there, so how did they manage to wander around slitting the throats of wounded men??

Gurkhas by the bye were deployed when they did land to West Falkland where there was no fighting at all, on the advance to Stanley they took part on the advance on Mount William on the right flank of the Scots Guards who fought to take Mount Tumbledown, 45 Commando Royal Marines were on their left flank.

"Maybe no more murderously ghoulish than much of what British soldiers have done in the last couple of decades, but let's cut this sanctificatory crap. They were hired killers in it for the money just like the rest of the British Army."

Here is the position on that bit of arrant nonsense - Under international law, according to Protocol 1 Additions to the Geneva Conventions of 1949, Gurkhas serving as regular uniformed soldiers are not mercenaries.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Penny S.
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 09:47 PM

Would the remarks about the army being hired killers be by comparison with some other state where the army is drafted? Perhaps armies should be doing it for nothing. The criticisms don't somehow sound as if they come from a pacifist.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Penny S.
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 10:04 PM

More on Joanna. She has a long marriage with a man 8 years younger than her - doesn't sound like a particularly revolting age gap to me. And she runs her life, according to an interview in the Guardian on the principle of kindness.

"She's not a Buddhist, though. Does she believe in God?

'Decca,' she laughs. 'I believe in virtually everything. I do, I do. But most of all, kindness. All you have to be is kind. That's all you need. Once you've got that it virtually rules out everything else.'"

She's a decent person, and undeserving of crude invective.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 08:18 PM

There's a whole lot in the above posts that doesn't translate across the Great Pond, if that's important.

I do appreciate the effort Teribus has made to correct the record of where the Gurkas were in the battle to retake the Falklands, and I do assume his facts are correct. We often disagree on policies but he is a good historian.

I do take heart that many Gurkas will eventually benefit by this ruling.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: CET
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 03:34 AM

Teribus, congratulations on your ongoing attempts to drill facts into the heads of some of the ignorant bigots that hang around this forum. (And I'm not referring to people who people who just differ from me politically) I sometimes think you are tilting at windmills, but more power to your elbow.

That Jack Campin would put forward "The way I had this episode described" as evidence in support of his position gives you a good idea of its quality.

I hadn't realized that other foreign soldiers had the right to settle in Britain after four years service.

Edmund

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 06:07 AM

I hadn't realized that other foreign soldiers had the right to settle in Britain after four years service.

I did wonder about that too and asked Eddie1 about it in a pm. He clarified it for me and hopefully he'll post a reply here.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: GUEST,Salford Sue
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 06:11 AM

And why not eanjay. Every other whaf and stay can come to the UK and enjoy our National Health system and benefits. Let them all in, with their police records that we never hear bout, or their mental health problem we never hear about either. Oh we hear about them in court after they have taken a life.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 06:13 AM

Wow! That was quick :)

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Peace
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 06:16 AM

"or their mental health problem we never hear about either"

I quote that from the Guest without comment, but I have a half dozen on the very tip of my tongue.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 06:21 AM

If you look at my post on 16/09/08 9.10am, you'll see that I too do not want the likes of Abu Hamza in this country living in luxury when several million people here who have paid taxes, NI etc. all their adult life are living in fuel poverty.

I am not getting into all of that in this thread - it is a different issue.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 06:23 AM

My reply was to the Guest post

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Peace
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 06:29 AM

The Gurkhas have been remarkable. The thought of NOT allowing them citizenship is disgusting. Reminds me of those bastards who buy puppies then set them loose when the puppy grows a little. I don't think the British are like that. Guest does his/her best to tell us otherwise, but hey, the world has lots of arseholes in it. IMO.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: eddie1
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 12:03 PM

I'll try to clarify the situation once more.

Retired soldiers from Commonwealth countries who served in the British Army for more than four years have, and have had for some time, the right to UK citizenship, full army pension, health care etc.

After considerable pressure, the Government extended this last year to Gurkhas who retired after 1st July 1997 - the date the HQ of the Brigade of Gurkhas moved from Hong Kong to the UK.

Those Gurkhas who retired prior to that date had to apply on an individual basis to remain in the Uk and even the few who were granted permission, based on the strength of their "Contact to th UK" were still left with a pension which was a mere pittance compared with those who retired after this magic date. This group - around 2000 and getting fewer as old age and failing health take there tolls - is what the current action is about.

A lot of Mudcatters with better wordskills than I have said why they feel the existing, hopefully now to be remedied, situation is totally wrong. If however, as a result of these test cases being successful we are faced with hordes of Gurkha pensioners rushing round robbing, mugging and slitting throats while listening to Walkmans (or is it Walkmen?) Then I will admit I was wrong from the outset.

Eddie

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 12:09 PM

"If however, as a result of these test cases being successful we are faced with hordes of Gurkha pensioners rushing round robbing, mugging and slitting throats while listening to Walkmans"

It'll never happen, except in the cesspit of Lauro's (a.k.a. Windsor Knot?) unhinged mind, Eddie!

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 12:12 PM

If however, as a result of these test cases being successful we are faced with hordes of Gurkha pensioners rushing round robbing, mugging and slitting throats while listening to Walkmans (or is it Walkmen?) Then I will admit I was wrong from the outset.

Brilliant, I love it.

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 12:37 PM

I have taken this from the Daily Express today:

The Gurkhas successfully overturned immigration rules which gave them no automatic right to stay in the UK if they retired from the British Army before 1997.

In an embarrassing U-turn, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith agreed to review all Gurkha immigration cases by the end of the year.

But Joanna fears the Government's commitment may be short-lived and she is urging people to sign a petition on her website www.gurkhajustice.org.uk which she plans to present to Gordon Brown.

Joanna 62, whose father fought alongside the Gurkhas in the Second World War, has promised to take her fight all the way to the steps of 10 Downing Street.

SIGN JOANNA'S PETITION TO ALLOW ALL GURKHAS TO STAY IN THE UK NOW!

"There is a real danger that the Government will fudge this opportunity and bring in new rules that still discriminate against pre-1997 retirees," she told the Daily Express yesterday.

"I want to make sure the Government changes the law immediately."

I have just joined this campaign. I have been unable to make a link straight to Joanna's petition but there is a link that works here.

36,915 signatures on the other petition.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 12:50 PM

managed it :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Bra
From: GUEST,guest eerehs
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 04:05 PM

have just signed - it is not the sort of thing i would normally do but after reading some of the sanctimonious (probably the wrong spelling but i am sure you all know what i mean)CRAP that a certain person has poured into this post i felt that i had to join with you all and say loud and clear that they should be allowed to live in our country after the way they have helped to protect our freedom and way of life and if a certain person is not happy with this then may be he should be the one to leave and take his poison with him!!

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: eddie1
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 04:16 PM

Thanks eerehs

Eddie

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 03:16 PM

I think the response from Teribus was a response to what Jack Campin said. You are of course right, it was an excellent response and very interesting too.

Lauro, I hadn't realised that the government are appealing the case, do you have a link to that?

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 03:55 PM

I can find this link where David Cameron has urged the government not to challenge the ruling but I cannot find anything that says they are going to. A link I gave yesterday said that in an embarrassing U-turn, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith agreed to review all Gurkha immigration cases by the end of the year.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Peace
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 04:16 AM

Andy Kim was a writer/singer from the late 1960s. I met him once. Nice guy.

Subject: RE: BS: Justice for the Gurkhas/Bravest of the Brave
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 05:51 AM

The British High Court judge in the case condemned a government policy that allowed Gurkhas who had served in the British army after July 1997 to settle in the UK, but denied that right to those who had retired before that date, as "irrational and confusing". The judge gave the British Home Office three months to carry out an "urgent revisiting" of the policy. He also awarded costs against the government.

If this government has any sense (not holding my breath on that one) they most definitely will not appeal anything. They should be looking at positive ways of improving Britain. Lets just hope that they do not mess up this chance they have been given by the High Court.