BS: Canadians Read This!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 02:03 PM

You get one beer. But you had better get here quick.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 02:07 PM

Don't give the f#cker anymore beer. He's had enough.


"100 FLIPPIN' POSTS! Awright! I win. What do I get, eh?

- BDiBR"

That was only post 99. Here he is pissed all hours of the day and night, can't read his posts properly and you're givin' him BEER. This arsehole may be casting the deciding vote in Monday's election and you're gonna give him BEER? Keeeeriste.

We're gonna end up with the Marijuana Party if it's up to Shane.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 02:11 PM

On second thought, I'll buy him a few, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 02:46 PM

Just one more day of the bullshit!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 06:59 PM

Come Monday night, we'll have new bullshit. Makes one proud to be Canadian.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 08:40 PM

It's gonna come out like this:

Conservatives 126
Liberals 100
Bloc Quebecois 53
New Democrat 29

However, I have been wrong before.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 10:54 PM

Results I'd like to see come Monday:
Seattle 37
Carolina 17
Denver 23
Pittsburg 7

And another Liberal Government.

Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 10:58 PM

Yes, well, I hope you realize that you have alienated the crucial chimpanzee vote.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 11:03 PM

Raptor, not that it matters in this thread but since you mentioned it..

Here we go Steelers!
Here we go!

And btw, Pittsburgh [PA] is spelled with a "h".

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 11:06 PM

Is the "h" silent, Azizi, or does one give a slight guttural to the "urgh" ending? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 11:06 PM

That would make it Hittsburgh.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 11:07 PM

Reminds me of a joke about the guy who asks for two Pickets to Tittsburgh.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 05:56 AM

No... it's Phittsburgh. Shanahan is going to have a Phitt when the Steelers arrive on The Bus.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: DougR
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 01:00 PM

I don't profess to know a lot about Canadian politics but from what I have read, and been listening to, it seems that Canadians are waking up to the fact that a Liberal party in control will bring ruination to a country.

Right on, Conservatives, boot those buggers out of office!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 01:35 PM

Hehehehehehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 01:40 PM

Doug: We have been screwed by both parties. One of the most corrupt governments we ever had was under Mulroney. It was a Conservative government. We just got a good screwing by the Liberals. Neither receive much respect here.

Four parties will receive all the seats in the House of Commons. None of them will have a majority. I think in a way that it puts us one step up on the US in that regard.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Raptor
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 01:46 PM

The Liberal Government has been in power for many years and the countrys never been better. We have a surplus Not a deficit. And our Dollars strong. We have resisted siding with the Oil driven Bushites. And have a respected armed Forces For Peace Keeping.

That will all end with the election of Steven Harper.

He wants to be just like the USA.

He wants to take away the woman's right tho choose.

He wants to fuck up the healthcare.

He wants to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

The list of bad decisions is endless.

And we'll need to go back to a deficit for him to do it.

He wants to ruin Canada as we know it.

Doug you obviously have been reading Bullshit Or should I say Bushshit.

Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 02:34 PM

Harper is a maniac.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 02:35 PM

Tories trying to keep true colours hidden :

Tories try to muzzle admiring right-wing U.S. pundits
E-mail warns that pro-Harper comments puts majority at risk
      
Sheldon Alberts, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Saturday, January 21, 2006

WASHINGTON - In the dying days of the Canadian federal election campaign, American conservatives are being asked to keep their affection for Stephen Harper quiet out of fear that any expression of U.S. support could harm his chances of forming a majority government.

In an e-mail circulated by the head of a right-wing think-tank, U.S. conservatives were warned to refuse interviews with Canadian media until after Monday's vote.

The missive from Paul Weyrich, chairman of the Washington-based Free Congress Foundation, came at the request of Gerald Chipeur, a Calgary lawyer and conservative political activist in Alberta.

According to Mr. Weyrich, Mr. Chipeur telephoned him this week with news that Mr. Harper's Conservatives are "within striking distance of electing an outright majority," but that the party could lose that opportunity if it appeared that it was too closely aligned with the U.S. political right.

"He said the Canadian media, which is trying to save the current Liberal government, has a strategy of calling conservatives in the U.S.A. in the hopes that someone will inadvertently say something that can be hung around the Conservatives," Mr. Weyrich said in the e-mail, which was sent Thursday to Washington-area conservatives and posted yesterday on several political blogs.

"Canadian voters have been led to believe that American conservatives are scary and if the Conservative party can be linked with us, they perhaps can diminish a Conservative victory," continued Mr. Weyrich, considered one of the most influential neoconservative activists in Washington.

"Chipeur asks that if Canadian media calls, please do not be interviewed until Monday evening at which point hopefully there will be reason to celebrate."

Neither Mr. Chipeur nor Mr. Weyrich returned calls placed to their offices yesterday. An assistant to Mr. Weyrich confirmed the gag order among staffers at the Free Congress Foundation.

The memo underscores the depth of anxiety among conservatives, on both sides of the border, over how Canadian voters will react to perceptions Mr. Harper shares an ideological kinship with President George W. Bush and the Republican Party.

In December, Mr. Harper wrote the conservative Washington Times to distance himself from an op-ed article that predicted he would cosy up to the U.S. president.

The author of the Times piece, former Cato Institute fellow Patrick Basham, described Mr. Harper as "pro-free trade, pro-Iraq war, anti-Kyoto, and socially conservative."

Mr. Basham's newspaper prediction that Mr. Harper would "quickly become Mr. Bush's new best friend internationally and the poster boy for his ideal foreign leader" became central elements of a Liberal attack ad against the Conservatives.

Mr. Harper said the article "greatly" oversimplified his views.

In an interview yesterday, Mr. Basham said he has since received dozens of e-mails from Canadian conservatives urging him to stop writing nice things about Mr. Harper.

"I had to stop printing them off because there was a pile on the floor," he said.

"The conservative Canadian reaction has been overwhelmingly negative," said Mr. Basham, a Canadian citizen who has worked in the U.S. capital for five years.

"Conservative Canadians accused me of costing Harper the election, doing the Liberals' dirty work for them."
The Ottawa Citizen 2006

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: number 6
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 03:38 PM

Check Harper's eyes .... they're reptilian !

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 03:59 PM

Less than eight hours to the end of the bullshit... until Tuesday.

In the spirit of the law regarding election campaigning, that is, no more talk after midnight tonight, just a couple of more observations.

Stevie said that after he is elected and his government works their magic, you won't recognize Canada as you know it. No comment. I think Stevie said it all... he intends to finish what Mulroney started.

As for Paul and his bunch, I can't believe they spent my money on gun control and buying Quebec and... and... and.

Jack? Well, Jack said jack in the debates except "trust me".

I trust me mother. She's always looked out for me. Them bunch in Uppity Canada... not so much.

My gut feeling? I am thinking Carolina and Pittsburgh. But, on any given day...

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 04:53 PM

Speaking of eyes - I noticed Harper's snaky eyes and fake smile but I also notice Martin's dead eyes and phony smile too. Layton, at least, has a genuine smile and light in his eyes.

Funny, how we judge them by how they look. Its just that their look actually mirrors their objectives.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Azizi
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 05:28 PM

Off topic:

I see folks have been having fun with the name of my adopted city. Only people who live here are allowed to do that. We can say that Pittsburgh [silent "h"] is the pitts. No one else.

While I confess that I'm not in to sports, I did wear black and gold to work on Friday. Most people here love us some Steelers. Win lose or draw.

That said, I'll go back to lurking and reading the comments about the Canadian political system and the upcoming election. From what I've read so far, I hope the Conservatives lose.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 05:52 PM

They won't. They will form a minority government.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Azizi
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 06:01 PM

"They will form a minority government". I'm not sure what that means.

???

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 06:05 PM

There are 308 seats in the House of Commons. A majority requires 50% plus one seat. Ergo, 154 plus 1 = 155 seats. No way they will get that many. They will be about 30 short of the magic number.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 06:24 PM

Minority governments can easily occur when one has more than 2 political parties of a significant size, Azizi. The party that wins the most seats (a plurality) may still fall considerably short of a majority. As such, it must then bargain some with various of the other parties who have won seats in the government if it wants to get legislation passed. This can actually be quite a good thing, as it encourages compromise and joining of minds to some extent.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 06:25 PM

I hope you're right.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 09:07 PM

I hope the Liberals win because they will continue to steal your money, break every election promise they ever made,and show you up for the wimpy bastards you are....

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 09:39 PM

Spoken like a guy who caught a bad dose of clap from BB le Street in a certain district of Montreal. On behalf of Canadians everywhere, sincere condolences.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Raptor
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 09:12 AM

Friday, January 20th, 2006

Michael Moore Statement on Canadian Election


Michael Moore is currently in production on his next movie. As an avid lover of all things Canadian, he has issued the following statement regarding Canada's upcoming election on Monday:


Oh, Canada -- you're not really going to elect a Conservative majority on Monday, are you? That's a joke, right? I know you have a great sense of humor, and certainly a well-developed sense of irony, but this is no longer funny. Maybe it's a new form of Canadian irony -- reverse irony! OK, now I get it. First, you have the courage to stand against the war in Iraq -- and then you elect a prime minister who's for it. You declare gay people have equal rights -- and then you elect a man who says they don't. You give your native peoples their own autonomy and their own territory -- and then you vote for a man who wants to cut aid to these poorest of your citizens. Wow, that is intense! Only Canadians could pull off a hat trick of humor like that. My hat's off to you.


Far be it from me, as an American, to suggest what you should do. You already have too many Americans telling you what to do. Well, actually, you've got just one American who keeps telling you to roll over and fetch and sit. I hope you don't feel this appeal of mine is too intrusive but I just couldn't sit by, as your friend, and say nothing. Yes, I agree, the Liberals have some 'splainin' to do. And yes, one party in power for more than a decade gets a little... long. But you have a parliamentary system (I'll bet you didn't know that -- see, that's why you need Americans telling you things!). There are ways at the polls to have your voices heard other than throwing the baby out with the bath water.


These are no ordinary times, and as you go to the polls on Monday, you do so while a man running the nation to the south of you is hoping you can lend him a hand by picking Stephen Harper because he's a man who shares his world view. Do you want to help George Bush by turning Canada into his latest conquest? Is that how you want millions of us down here to see you from now on? The next notch in the cowboy belt? C'mon, where's your Canadian pride? I mean, if you're going to reduce Canada to a cheap download of Bush & Co., then at least don't surrender so easily. Can't you wait until he threatens to bomb Regina? Make him work for it, for Pete's sake.


But seriously, I know you're not going to elect a guy who should really be running for governor of Utah. Whew! I knew it! You almost had me there. Very funny. Don't do that again. God, I love you, you crazy cold wonderful neighbors to my north. Don't ever change.


Michael Moore


(Mr. Moore is not available for interviews because he now needs to address the situation in Azerbaijan. But he could be talked into it for a couple of tickets to a Leaf's game.)

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 01:24 PM

Leaf's game? LEAF'S GAME? Why doesn't he want to watch a real hockey team?

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Azizi
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 09:51 PM

Check out this discussion about Canada's election:

Daily Kos: Conservative Canada? by by aaraujo;Sun Jan 22, 2006

Here's one comment from a poster about this subject:

"Need to remember that the Liberals, Bloc and NDP are all center to left parties. With only 128, the Tories would need to govern from the center to get any legislation passed. Over 140 or so they might be able to move further right by picking off a handful of right-leaning Liberals or Bloquists, but under 130? They'd need to make compromises. If they tried to push too far, the sword of no-confidence would always be hanging over their head. It would be a terrible misreading by the Tories were they to believe there is some mandate in their likely minority government win. The voters are chastising the Grits, but the moment Harper drops the moderate mask, the inroads in Ontario and Quebec would dry up and a strengthened LPC would likely be returned with a majority; or at the very least a working Liberal-NDP government".

by ActivistGuy on Sun Jan 22, 2006

-snip-

So, do you Canadian 'Catters agree with this assessment?

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 09:58 PM

I disagree with 'his' number, but not really his gist. I don't see more than 126 seats to the Conservatives. We'll know in fewer than 28 hours.

Subject: RE: BS: Canadians Read This!!!
From: number 6
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 10:52 PM

Michael Moore is a phony! Please keep him out of Canadian Politics.

sIx