BS: Western Democracy's Achilles Heel

Subject: RE: BS: Western Democracy's Achilles Heel
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 07:57 AM

Ron,

"However if you were in favor of these illegals getting livable wages, you'd be in favor of their becoming US citizens--then they could not be exploited as easily."

    I don't see how paying decent wages has anything to do with citizenship. What I think is, if American bussineses had to pay illegals the same wages they would have to pay anybody else, there would be no reason to hire them.

    Making them citizens simply increases the likelyhood of population increases. Furthermore, if all American industry had to pay living wages with benefits, they'd be motivated to find better means of production. With slave labor, they don't need to do that.

    Also, I would agree, building a wall is a stupid idea. It would cost a lot of money, wouldn't work, and would be an environmental disaster.

    But runaway population growth is an even bigger disaster. And streamlining the immigration system would contribute hugely to that.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Democracy's Achilles Heel
From: folk1e
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 08:26 PM

There is a direct coralation between family size and levels of education / happiness quotent! The answers are therefore fairly obvious:-
Free borders up to allow reasonable access to greater wealth.
Allow greater access to higher education.
Provide assistance to any country that facilitates eather (or both)of the above!
Reap the rewards of an economy benifiting from motivated free labour and a burgeoning accademia!

Subject: RE: BS: Western Democracy's Achilles Heel
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 07:14 AM

And that might work, if you didn't have power brokers like the Pope, for instance, and Pat Robertson telling people to "go forth and procreate," and "ingorance is bliss."

Subject: RE: BS: Western Democracy's Achilles Heel
From: folk1e
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 07:37 PM

"Ignorance is bliss" eh...... how do they know!

Subject: RE: BS: Western Democracy's Achilles Heel
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 08:22 AM

They're ignorant!