BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)

Subject: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Dickey
Date: 15 May 07 - 02:17 PM

Jerry Fallwell dies

1:49 PM May 15, 2007

LYNCHBURG, Va.---A Liberty University executive tells the Associated Press that the Reverend Jerry Falwell has died.

Falwell, a TV evangelist who founded the Moral Majority, became the face of the religious right in the 1980s.

Falwell was taken to a hospital after being found unconscious today in his office at the school he founded in Virginia.

He was 73 years old.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Amos
Date: 15 May 07 - 02:38 PM

IMHO this was an exit long overdue. I hope he didn't suffer.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 May 07 - 02:47 PM

And I wonder if he will get what he expects.......

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Amos
Date: 15 May 07 - 02:51 PM

I can imagine him, finally casting off the silver rope and finding his wits about him about 100 feet above the hospital, going "What the fuck was that?????".

Then, finding himself free of pain, weight, and other concomitants of body-hood, enjoying himsef genuinely for the first time in 75 years, and then wandering around forlornly trying to track down some of those angelic escorts who were supposed to show up and show him the trail to Saint Peter's Gate, or Saint Gates'...well, never mind that.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 May 07 - 02:54 PM

Well, if there is any residual awareness floating around, I tend to think he's probably in for a lot of surprises. Not necessarily unpleasant ones, but far different from what he expected.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Dickey
Date: 15 May 07 - 02:58 PM

I was never a fan. I considered him a zealot.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: gnu
Date: 15 May 07 - 03:00 PM

RIP (in this case, Rot In Purgatory), you callous, self-righteous.......

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 May 07 - 03:07 PM

Now, now. He did prepare for the Second Coming on January 1, 2000 by stocking up on ammunition....

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Peace
Date: 15 May 07 - 03:25 PM

Better off to eat oysters, no?

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: M.Ted
Date: 15 May 07 - 03:27 PM

Someone once said something to the effect that "The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones:" Let it be so for Fallwell--

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: 3refs
Date: 15 May 07 - 03:28 PM

I thought he was a little over the top, sometimes to the point of being extreme.
That being said, I wish him well. I just wish I could watch his new show that will be broadcast from eternity and listen to all that back peddling he'll have to do!

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: gnu
Date: 15 May 07 - 03:43 PM

Of course, himself not being a believer in Purgatory, I suppose he is now asking Pete why his reservation is not on the list.

Or, wishing he had believed in Purgatory, as the $$$ he made are of no use now.

Spose I'm goin ta hell for this. See ya when I get their, Jer.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 May 07 - 03:53 PM

So that's it huh? Well, I guess I can do no better than to relate the story of "The Fartistic Falwell" just the way I told it that night it happened. Perhaps it will send Jerry on his way in a cloud of methane......................

Paw has always had an aura about him, but Cletus says the only aura he knew about was a kind of a mixture of sulphur and sewer gas. But then that got me to remembering how Paw and Cletus had shot Buford and gave him that eulogy and all, then he turned out not to be dead since his backpack was full of a 12 pack and absorbed the blast. Since he was just knocked out and drunk instead of shot dead, its good that Paw and Cletus didn't bury him.......But I tell you the truth, when that ol' boy showed up alive, it damn near killed Paw instead.

Their reunion led to a joyous evening of the three of them and the Reg boys getting drunk on "Iron City" and 'Shine and roasting a hog out in my backyard alongside the garage. Of course, after a while, Paw started lighting up farts as is his wont and that's what I came to think about ought to be left unexplained.

The neighbors began to complain about 11 o'clock or so after one of Paw's flamers had ignited the hedge on his property. That would have passed as the boys got it out pretty quick, being full of Iron City and all, but when a major rip set fire to his wife's bird feeder....well, that was it. I tried to calm the guy down and assured him nothing like that would happen again. He went back into his house dragging the charred remains of the feeder and a roasted squirrel that had been looting it when Paw let fly with that fiery thundersprecht.

Anyway, I got them situated again and since my house has aluminum siding, my only request was that they point Paw towards the wall. I figured a good hosing would clean off the worst of it in the morning. I went inside and the revelry continued at a somewhat decreased decibel level with only an occasional flash lighting the window of my den. Around 2 AM the boys came in for a final pee call and of course they couldn't just go. I heard either Reg or Reg in my pantry and before I could get up there, the whole crew was playing sink the Cheerios in my downstairs bathroom. Karen came downstairs at this point and threw a fit since our kids watch everything the boys do and we were spending a fortune in Cheerios.

After a severe ass-reaming from Karen, I herded them back outside and suggested they get some sleep around the smouldering pig carcass. I went back in and after cleaning and disinfecting the bathroom and taking a shower, I again settled down in front of the TV to watch a half-hour Infomercial on how I could make thousands a week by selling quinnine pills through Direct Mail Order and running tiny little ads.

They were just getting to the good part with the testimonials and all when there was this giant blast from the backyard and the night sky lit up like a Buddhist monk. There was a moment of silence and then I heard Cletus yell, "HO-LEE SHEEIT!!!" Well, there wasn't anyway I could avoid it, so I went out through the garage into the backyard and there they stood, the whole damn bunch of them, except for Buford who was throwing up Iron City and pork fat down his bib overalls over by the smoking hedge. They were staring at an image that Paw's last fart had scorched onto the siding with their mouths hanging open. I stepped back and looked and my first thought was, "Well this ain't gonna' clean off too good and Karen will be really pissed." But when I started to say something, Cletus stopped me and I noticed that the look on all of their faces was almost reverent. Paw was standing with his mouth agape and the others seemed awestruck as well, so I looked again.

Cletus turned to me and said, "Doncha' seez it Catspaw? Its rite thar!!! Paw done farted Jerry Falwell out his ass!!!" Well, I kinda' had to admit, it DID resemble the good reverend in the flickering light of the burning porker on the spit, but I was too much in fear of what the morning would bring from Karen to say anymore than tell them to get some sleep. Problem was, they didn't. I went back inside, the group outside quieted down, and I nodded off before I could get the 800 number for the "501 All-Time Polka Greats" by Myron Kopetz and the Nose Flute Kings.

What I didn't know was that the group had gone off and gotten Pastor Sharphorn, his wife, the Ladies Auxillary, and the Deacons, from the "Church of Evangelical Brethren and Tongue Talking Mohunkers" and they arrived for a look-see about sun-up. When I woke up to the commotion outside it was about 6 AM I guess. The sight that confronted me was reasonably bizarre. At least 150 people were assembled in the backyard and I could see more coming down the alley. A small altar had been erected out of the remains of my stockade fence which was now on the ground, the crowd overflowing into my neighbor's backyard and trampling his stupid-ass garden gnomes into powder....It was the only high spot of the day.

Those kneeling at the altar would place small plastic Madonnas and Jesus statuary at the foot of the garage wall and say a little prayer and move on to the donation box that Cletus was guarding. It was then that I noticed that everyone donating more than $25. was getting a "Holy Relic" to commemorate their visit to this newest religious icon which had previously only sheltered my vehicles and assorted cans of dried out wax and rubbing compound.

There, perched upon a throne like affair that I noticed had been assembled from our porch furniture, was Paw. As each person gave his donation, Buford would cut a small piece from Paw's overalls and hand it to them. For $50. they got a piece from the seat, and for $500. a snippet from the flap of his longjohns. It was a kind of poor man's "Shroud of Turin" I guess. Business must have been good since Paw was missing one entire leg of his bibs and he was about bareassed already. I was dumbfounded and I was just considering how to set this up as an infomercial and start booking tours when the County Sheriff showed up and ran everybody off. Then he proceeded to fine me for 19 different offenses and gave me a summons to appear in court for destruction of my neighbors property.

I was able to head off Cletus and the money, which covered almost all of the fines and my neighbor's friggin' gnomes, but it cost another 50 bucks to get rid of Falwell. Now if I could just get shed of the real one for the same price.......................Anyway, I have never been able to figure out how that happened and I suppose it is one of those things best left unexplained. I've always thought that Falwell was talking out his ass, but I never figured you could blow him out your ass, but Paw's a real religious ol' coot so I guess you just never know. Really, I think Cletus had it right with his first two words, "Holy Shit!!"

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Wesley S
Date: 15 May 07 - 04:12 PM

I wonder who show up at the funeral from the current administration? Surely not the President?

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Peace
Date: 15 May 07 - 04:17 PM

If Ergun Caner has the brains God gave a carrot, he damned well will show up at the funeral.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 May 07 - 04:52 PM

If he lived up to his name and fell well, the fat's in the fire now.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Peace
Date: 15 May 07 - 04:55 PM

Falwell.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: M.Ted
Date: 15 May 07 - 04:56 PM

To get a sense of how Dr. Fallwell's co-religionists will remember him, check this :Jerry Falwell's Friday the 13th Declaration. This comment comes fairly near the beginning:

"I do not regard it as unfortunate that he articulated his and Liberty University's honest beliefs, no matter how offensive they may be to me or to others. "

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 May 07 - 05:04 PM

We still need to undo the damage

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 May 07 - 05:26 PM

What does "limited atonement" mean? Anyone know?

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 15 May 07 - 05:30 PM

Here you are

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Fallwell
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 May 07 - 05:31 PM

It means less than complete atonement. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Dickey
Date: 15 May 07 - 06:20 PM

Listening to the news (we are in for two days of comments on Fallwell) I hear nothing but good comments VS the hate piled on him before he croaked.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Peace
Date: 15 May 07 - 06:28 PM

Yeah. They said nice things about that cocksucker Pinocet, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Janie
Date: 15 May 07 - 06:31 PM

May he rest in peace in spite of the violence and bigotry he fostered.

Janie

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Peace
Date: 15 May 07 - 06:31 PM

The death of some folks brings out the worst two-faced shit people have in them. No disrespect to anyone here. I am neither happy nor sad that Falwell--his name is spelled FALwell--is dead. The sooner the better for others like him. They can all go be with their respective God.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Peace
Date: 15 May 07 - 06:38 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Greg B
Date: 15 May 07 - 07:14 PM

Fortunately for the song-writers -well rhymes with hell.

I guess 'Good-bye Fall-thee-well' might be a start, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 May 07 - 07:31 PM

Maybe they called him "Fall-Ill" when he was in grade school, which would go a long way in explaining why he grew into what he did.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 May 07 - 07:41 PM

Tinky Winky must be gay
I heard Jerry Falwell say
He is purple and what's worse
Tinky Winky has a purse

RIP I will not speak ill of the dead.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Donuel
Date: 15 May 07 - 08:08 PM

Mr. Gerald Falwell did an AWFUL lot of things.
Although his father shot and killed a man, Gerald never killed anyone with his own hands.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 15 May 07 - 09:11 PM

You earn your reputation. That Falwell's death is so roundly snickered at is simply him receiving his due. His actions dictated and I'll be damned if he gets any sympathy from me. Besides, the sonofabitch got what he wanted--he politicized religion or religionized conservative politics--however you want to see it. He changed America's socio-political landscape. Not for the better but he changed it.

I think the only legitimate transformation Falwell ever had was when he learned that money from a black man's pocket was worth every bit the same as the money from a white man's pocket and thereafter desegregated the Thomas Road Baptist Church. Anyone who gives him money is as morally and intellectual bankrupt as Falwell was himself. Just not as rich.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Bobert
Date: 15 May 07 - 09:24 PM

Oh, to be a fly on the...

...pearly gates...

LOL, glad to see the creep go... RIP, bon vouage, toode-a-looske, don't let the door hit you on the way to Hell, creepo maggot...

Yeah, any day that a right winged bigot bites the dust is a good day... It's way of God sayin', "You suck... That ain't what I had in mind and the party is over..."

I won't miss Jerry Falwell fir one millionth of a second...

(Well tell 'um how you really feel, Bobert)

Okay, being a Follower of Jesus, I shouldn't have these thoughts about another of God's creations but Jeryy Falwell??? Give me a break...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 May 07 - 09:59 PM

Around here, we're wondering how happy God must be, having Jerry up there to help him out and all, telling him how Heaven and Earth ought to be. Pore ol' God, I hope he's set ol' Jerry straight by now.

"JERRY. THIS IS THE LORRRRRD. LISTEN UP-- I LIKE THAT TINKIE WINKIE FELLER. You are equal in My sight, you know."

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 May 07 - 10:03 PM

I was taught not to speak ill of the dead. I was taught to speak well of them. So being raised right, I think it's just as well that he's dead.

I do hope that he rests in peace, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 May 07 - 10:35 PM

He should go hang out with Roy Cohn for a while, get a few tips, then maybe Tony Kushner will write him into a play. I'd pay money to go see that one!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 May 07 - 11:41 PM

Watched PBS and the report on the graduates from his school who are in government departments now.
Glad I live elsewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 May 07 - 11:48 PM

Glad he's gone. And yet,I know people who are presumably feeling very sad tonight. I'm not going to call and ask them- because I'd get steamed.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 May 07 - 11:52 PM

Well, it seemed to me that he was an evil, hateful man who made a mockery of Christianity by using it for prejudice and political gain instead of for peace and justice. Now that he's met his maker, he's going to have some explaining to do.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 May 07 - 12:27 AM

Maybe he'll be reincarnated as the next Liberace playing for Tinkie Winkie's dance.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: GUEST,Cruz
Date: 16 May 07 - 12:30 AM

Sure am glad "god" needed him "up there" more than s/he/it thought we needed him down here.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Barry Finn
Date: 16 May 07 - 02:10 AM

Rest well in hell you bastard

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: alanabit
Date: 16 May 07 - 03:49 AM

Roy Zimmermann's tribute to Jerry Falwell.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: jacqui.c
Date: 16 May 07 - 08:55 AM

SINS here.

That triangle on his head
Is a symbol Jerry Said
But to me it is a sign
That Jerry Falwell has too much time.

Makes me wish that there were a Heaven and it was filled with Teletubbies.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:22 AM

Well, last night the pastor of one of the churches here in town said, "I don't want to say anything bad about him, but I've always thought he was a little fanatical and hating. I didn't care for him very much."

Roger is known for his understatement....

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: frogprince
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:51 AM

"The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones:" Let it be so for Fallwell-"- M.Ted
I've heard that quotation a few times, but I've never happened to stop and really consider the implications. It strikes me as a profoundly, unduelly, pessimistic opinion, but at least it doesn't say the good is always interred with their bones.

I'm not sure why you said "Let it be so for Falwell". If by that you mean, let him not be remembered in death as something better than he was, I would agree. But I suspect that the evil of his influence will live after him to in ways that I wouldn't "wish" for by saying "let it be so".

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Naemanson
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:51 AM

I seem to remember a joke about a man who dies and goes to heaven. He is amazed to be allowed through the gates because he never was a believer and was a bit of a sinner. "Well," says Saint Peter, "there never was a hell. Everyone is welcome here." About that time the man looks down off a cloud cliff into a sea of fire with souls roasting and demons tormenting them. "What's that?" Saint Peter looks down and sadly shakes his head. "Has nothing to do with us. The Baptists just wouldn't believe the facts..."

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 May 07 - 10:15 AM

LOL...I remember that one, Naes. Good one.

alanabit, thanks for the Zimmerman video. Brill, except I think the end could have been different and better.:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Bill D
Date: 16 May 07 - 11:43 AM

*wondering if Pat Robertson is paying attention*...and several others.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: M.Ted
Date: 16 May 07 - 12:20 PM

frogprince--What Mark Antony was saying was that when someone has done a surpassing evil, that is what is remembered, not the good. And that he would let that stand. But then he goes on to say that if Caesar had done wrong, he ultimately paid for it, and that they should mourn him as the friend and champion that they remembered.

Antony's speech is here--more than worth reading--Julius Caesar, Act 3, Scene 2

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Amos
Date: 16 May 07 - 12:47 PM

The Old-Time Hypocrisy Hour discusses the patina of false sentiment being floated concerning Mister Falwell's departure from this mortal coil.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 May 07 - 01:33 PM

For another viewpoint try Landover Baptist.org

And PLEASE - this article is a joke. This is not from a real church.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: jaze
Date: 16 May 07 - 03:05 PM

Well, he must have done something right. I worked with his daughter and found her to be one of the kindest, most compassionate MD's I've ever known.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 May 07 - 03:07 PM

I've never understood the implicit interdiction of 'speaking no evil' of the recently dead. To me, that hour, that moment, seems an excellent time to speak truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Donuel
Date: 16 May 07 - 03:21 PM

Don
As he floated near the ceiling looking down he thought to his now floating self "Is my butt really that big?"

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: michaelr
Date: 16 May 07 - 03:24 PM

Godd riddance to bad rubbish.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:52 PM

I wondered where he would be put, and checked with Dante. With the hypocrites? The heretics? No. I think that he is in Cocytus, Round Two (Antenora).

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Peace
Date: 16 May 07 - 10:02 PM

We will miss him.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 May 07 - 10:30 PM

I think that he'll find an eternity with others like himself: Pierre de Lancre, Father Charles Coughlin, Theodore Bilbo, Pope Alexander VI, J. Edgar Hoover, Breckinridge Long, Joseph McCarthy, Cecil Rhodes, and Tomas de Torquemada, to name but a few.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Peace
Date: 16 May 07 - 11:38 PM

"Let me be the first to say: I ALWAYS agreed with the Rev. Falwell."

Ann Coulter





There isn't much more to say about the man, is there!

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 May 07 - 11:58 PM

Or about her.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: alanabit
Date: 17 May 07 - 02:52 AM

I can't help noticing that over the past year the Grim Reaper has carted off Saddam Hussein, Augusto Pinochet and now Jerry Falwell. No doubt other riff raff will arise to replace them. Still, I hope that a few other bullies and tyrants are feeling less comfortable now.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 07 - 11:15 AM

Good ol Jerry knew how to make a buck.
Gerry gave a TV sermon which included the remark that Bill Clinton was a murderer and provided evidence in the form of a list of 234 people that Clinton had killed.

When asked in provate if he believed if Clinton was actually murderer Falwell said "heavens no, I was just selling something for someone."

It may have been slander for cash but ya gotta admit that Jerry was honest about it...in private.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 May 07 - 11:54 AM

Question: How do we know what Falwell said in private?

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 07 - 12:36 PM

During the Diane Reams show today a minister was telling of his experiences with Jerry Falwell. It was a revealing show, so if you need names and dates I sugest you look it up on NPR.org

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Stringsinger
Date: 17 May 07 - 05:06 PM

You may not want to speak ill of the dead but the hypocrisy there is that we think ill of the dead.

Personally, I think Falwell is in Heaven doing the polka with William Rehnquist.

"I vas not a Nazi Polka"....................................

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Riginslinger
Date: 17 May 07 - 06:41 PM

"...so if you need names and dates I sugest you look it up on NPR.org"


             NPR has been full of Bible Thumpers lately. It's disgusting.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 May 07 - 06:43 PM

Well, since I don't believe in hell and tend to believe in the sanctity and educability of Spirit, I picture him as penitent and wondering how he got it so wrong...

And if that sounds too utterly sanctimonious, may I add that I hope he's suffering. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Riginslinger
Date: 17 May 07 - 07:59 PM

It's funny, people like that seem like it never occurrs to them for a minute that they might be wrong when they're alive.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 May 07 - 09:30 PM

I still wonder what they think about during a sleepless night.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Amos
Date: 17 May 07 - 09:43 PM

Oh, how to get ahead of all their wicked enemies, I imagine.

It's funny. I have not been widely influential, but I have met thousands of peopel in my life and as far as I know I don't have one really wicked enemy.

I guess I'm not trying hard enough!! :D


A

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 17 May 07 - 10:48 PM

Strange to be able to actually agree with Christopher Hitchens again.

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 17 May 07 - 10:52 PM

Twice, even.

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 07 - 01:10 AM

Let's see, we are glad he's dead because he was full of hate, and we know he was full of hate, because he condemned certain behaviors as being wrong, and we condemn that sort of thing because, you know, it's wrong. And we know for a fact that he was wrong about heaven and hell and God because no one can know those things. And of course he was judgmental and so he deserves to go to hell. Oh yeah, and he was a hypocrite.

Kent Davis

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Amos
Date: 18 May 07 - 01:53 AM

+++BG+++, Kent.

I believe, fundamentally, he did more harm than good in the world, from what I have seen. But I have only seen a small slice of Falwell, which is about all I cared to see.

Hitchens was remarkable.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Naemanson
Date: 18 May 07 - 11:34 PM

I feel the same way about Falwell as I did about Richard Nixon. I'm sure he thought he was doing the right thing. Unfortunately I also think Falwell's idea of the "right thing" was to make money. He preached the word of Jesus but he did not seem to live it. He carried the Bible but he did not seem to really believe in the words inside, at least, not the New Testament. He used on the words that would promote HIS agenda, not God's.

So, as with Nixon, I am satisfied that he can no longer directly influence modern society. If that makes me a hypocrite, then so be it. I just want to know he is planted and gone.

As for "HIS agenda, not God's" I believe anyone who promotes and pushes for war and killing is NOT following that most simple of commandments, "Thou shalt not kill." How simple can it be? Four words, no subclauses.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 May 07 - 12:57 AM

Well said, Naes.

Lepus, thanks for the links. Hitchens was spot on.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit Jerry Falwell (15 May 2007)
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 May 07 - 11:01 AM

"Treat others as you would have them treat you."
"Put up your sword, for those who live by the sword will perish by it."
"Don't kill unnecessarily."
"Give away all that own and follow me."
"Blessed are the poor."

WTF? Can this get any simpler?