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Margo 06 Apr 99 - 04:43 PM
Bert 06 Apr 99 - 05:00 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 06 Apr 99 - 05:03 PM
Dr John 06 Apr 99 - 05:05 PM
Bob Landry 06 Apr 99 - 05:32 PM
Bill D 06 Apr 99 - 06:05 PM
Bob Schwarer 06 Apr 99 - 06:10 PM
Pete M 06 Apr 99 - 07:24 PM
MudGuard 07 Apr 99 - 02:18 AM
Musicman 07 Apr 99 - 02:27 AM
bseed(charleskratz) 07 Apr 99 - 03:07 AM
Ritchie 07 Apr 99 - 03:50 AM
hank 07 Apr 99 - 09:18 AM
AlistairUK 07 Apr 99 - 10:39 AM
Will Bakker 07 Apr 99 - 10:48 AM
Margo 07 Apr 99 - 03:38 PM
Bert 07 Apr 99 - 04:37 PM
Banjer 07 Apr 99 - 06:49 PM
AlistairUK 08 Apr 99 - 08:22 AM
Ritchie 10 Apr 99 - 06:59 AM
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Subject: Gas Prices
From: Margo
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 04:43 PM

Hi, I got this message from a friend and thought you 'catters might want to participate.

Hi all,

I'm fowarding this to everyone on my mailing list. Would love to actually pull this off. Sorry if it's like junk mail to you.

"THE GREAT "GAS OUT" It's time we did something about the price of gasoline in America! We are all sick and tired of high prices when there are literally millions of gallons in storage. Know what I found out? If there was just ONE day when no one purchased any gasoline, prices would drop drastically.

The so-called oil cartel has decided to slow production by some 2 million barrels per day to drive up the price. I have decided to see how many Americans we can get to NOT BUY ANY GASOLINE on one particular day!

Let's have a GAS OUT! Do not buy any gasoline on APRIL 30, 1999!!!!! Buy on Thursday before, or Saturday after. Do not buy any gasoline on FRIDAY, APRIL 30, 1999.

Wanna help? Send this message to everyone you know. Ask them to do the same. All we need is a few million to participate in order to make a difference.

We CAN make a difference.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Bert
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 05:00 PM

That sounds fun Margarita. Count me in for sure. At least we can find out how powerful the web is.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 05:03 PM

I've gotten this message twice, and since I live 3 miles from my work, it would be easy for me to do. But I have a cynical side, or perhaps a cautious one, that wonders just how realistic it is and whether it really would work- wouldn't it do just the opposite, drive prices even higher so the companies could make up for the loss or revenue for the day? I'd love to make a difference, but is this the way? I'm sure it would be better for me to get a bike instead of driving my 10 year old car 6 miles a day.
Allison


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Dr John
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 05:05 PM

Count me in in the UK too. Here it is horrendous taxes.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Bob Landry
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 05:32 PM

Lemme stir the pot a little bit.

Gas prices here went up by almost 14% recently and all of it goes to the oil industry. That's not a huge hit, considering they are still lower than they were anly a year or so ago. From what I've read, the increase in oil prices follows an agreement between western and middle eastern producers to cut down on production in order to stimulate the price of oil. The rapprochement between the US and Iran may have had a something to do with this agreement. The price of oil which, based on the West Texas crude benchmark, was about US$11 per barrel was too low to justify any new major projects in the North American oil industry. The increase in oil prices will allow these projects to go ahead and stimulate the economies of the oil-producing regions of Canada and the US.

As I understand it, we are far from running out of oil. Conventional oil production technonogy can only recover about 15% of oil reserves and, if I have the correct numbers, enhanced technologies only raise the recovery rate to 20% or 25%. What we need to work on is to continue reducing the harmful emissions of burning fossil fuels. Increased oil prices, which justify continuing development of oil industry technology, will also justify the continuing development of emission control technology.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 06:05 PM

1) this is NOT the place for that kind of thread.

2) gas prices, at least in the USA, are no higher than they were 18 years ago!..they MAY eventually go to a price that bothers me, but no amount of artifical one day boycotts are going to affect the global markets.

3)I, personally, hate mass emailings and requests like this...for ANY purpose. (who remembers hearing that sending in cigarette packages would help buy iron lungs?) .....call be a cynic, but 98.4123% of grass roots crusades of this nature are misguided and a waste of time..

I may or may not need gas that day....but don't you think that the oil companies are reading & hearing about this?...and that they will adjust their strategy accordingly?


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Bob Schwarer
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 06:10 PM

What?!! High gas prices in the US? You have to be trying to rattle someones cage. What we need to do is slap a $1.00 tax per gallon & cut the consumption. This country is one big energy hog.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Pete M
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 07:24 PM

Oh migod, I've just finished blasting someone for posting this to a list server, I never thought I'd see it on the 'Cat. High prices for petrol in the US, you have got to be joking! Now if you were advocating a 400% increase in the tax on petrol with the proceeds going to social services I might agree.

I also hate mass forwarded mail on principle.

Oh dear Bill's beaten me to it again! I'll shut up and stop being a parrot.

Pete M


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: MudGuard
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 02:18 AM

I think the only way to reduce the gas prices with a long term effect is to reduce the use of gas as prices are usually influenced by
1) the available amount
on which you don't have a lot of influence, it is controlled by the oil industry
2) the requested amount which many of us can reduce if we want, e.g.
- ride your bike,
- walk,
- use public transport,
- if you need to drive a car use one that needs less gas
- if you need to drive a car drive in a way that needs less gas
- ...

This will have more influence on gas prices than just not buying any gas on one particular day - the gas will still be bought, before or after this day. The only effect might be that the people working at gas stations have a lazy day!
Andreas


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Musicman
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 02:27 AM

You think that you folks in the US have gas woes? Here in the Vancouver, BC area we have watched our prices jump around from a low of $.33/litre to a high of $.57/litre, sometimes over night, sometimes over the course of a day. Now, for those of you who don't realize that Canada uses the metric system (we're still trying to figure it out!), 1 US gallon = 3.78 litres. I'll let you do the math. Even with the dollar the way it is, that is still a high price for gas, and one heck of a jump from one day to the next. I think things are beginning to settle down again, and of course at the higher rates. Many Canadians living near the border will travel south to buy their gas, just because it ends up being cheaper in the long run.

And I agree with Bill D., This is not the place for this type of thread.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 03:07 AM

We (SF Bay Area) have had increases of up to 68 percent in the last month and a half--the station where I paid 99.9 cents per gallon of regular unleaded in February is now charging $1.679--and it's still the cheapest gas within 10 miles of my home. But I agree that it is still underpriced--the oil industry is just another of the industries whose prices don't reflect the real costs of their products, not in production but in after-costs like health concerns and destruction of environment, not to mention social costs in the source countries. Other such industries include tobacco, of course; electric power generation--especially nuclear, factory hog farming (a court refused to award damages to a man whose new $400,000 house ended up six feet deep in pig shit when a sewer pond levee broke--on the basis that the spill was an act of God). And so on... --seed


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Ritchie
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 03:50 AM

"Gas-An air-like fluid ; Petroleum-Natural mineral oil." taken from 'Blackie's Pocket Dictionary'

You say tomato and I say tomato, you say potatoe and I say ...chips...lets call the whole thing off.

Now cutting beer prices ,that's an issue.Doh !!

Ritchie the abstainer.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: hank
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 09:18 AM

I know this doesn't belong here, but I look for ethanol in all my gas. Can't always get it, but I will pay extra for it. Helps the farmers, hurts those dictators in countries with a dictator of a different religion. (not that religion is the reason I don't care for them) Now if I could buy ethanol without oil in it. I would. (I've come to the conclusions that my support for the gulf war back then was a mistake, if oil is the only reason for it. If the war was about something more, maybe it would have been worth it)


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: AlistairUK
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 10:39 AM

When I get gas I normally stay away from people, I take a few antacid tablets and avoid fibrous food for a few days so the condition doesn't continue.

It's petrol me dears gas is something you get after a bean feast.

Beans beans
Good for your heart
The more you eat
The more you fart

PArdon me for being so rude
It was not me it was my food
It just popped up to say "hallo"
And now it's gone back down below
If it was below my heart
Then it would have been a fart

bang goes my resolution to use clean language!!


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Will Bakker
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 10:48 AM

Here in Holland the gasprices are 4 dollars a gallon, and frankly I don't mind, as long as the government spends the money on the right purposes. Let's talk about music!


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Margo
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 03:38 PM

Sorry folks.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Bert
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 04:37 PM

Margarita,

I don't see any need for you to apologise. You tried to get some folks together to take some grass roots action. Sounds very much like a FOLK issue to me.
If others don't agree with your stand, you could refer them to the "Who's got the Courage" threads.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Banjer
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 06:49 PM

AlistairUK, I don't know if you just didn't complete the "Bean Ditty" or if you are not aware of the full text...

Beans, beans good for your heart,
The more you eat, the more you f**t,
The more you f**t the better you feel,
Let's have beans at every meal!

And in an attempt to bring this thread full circle and turn it back to music I offer this:

Bean, beans, a musical fruit,
The more you eat the more you toot
The more you toot, the better you feel,
Let's have beans every meal!


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: AlistairUK
Date: 08 Apr 99 - 08:22 AM

Banj: wow I didn't know there was a second verse, when I was at school it was only the first one. Thanks Banj.


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Subject: RE: Gas Prices
From: Ritchie
Date: 10 Apr 99 - 06:59 AM

Banjer & AlistairUK,

Well done chaps,as Gerry with the pacemaker said "I like it, I like it !"

Denise La Salle once sang about not messing with her Toot Toot...it all seems so much clearer now.

Ritchie


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