BS: cindy sheehan gives up

Subject: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: tarheel
Date: 29 May 07 - 11:17 AM

http://news.aol.com/partners/cnn/_a/anti-war-mom-gives-up-on-peace-movement/20070529004709990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 29 May 07 - 11:24 AM

Read the link. She is absolutely correct in everything she says.

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: bobad
Date: 29 May 07 - 11:24 AM

She came to the realization that the Democratic Party was just as bad as the Republican Party on the issue of the war.

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 29 May 07 - 11:25 AM

clicky

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 May 07 - 11:26 AM

Aw, she's just having a momentary discouragement. She'll perk up, you'll see. Probably find a more elegant approcah.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 May 07 - 11:32 AM

My guess is she's ready to cash in. She needs the time off to write a book, then she'll be right back out there with a book to sell.

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 May 07 - 11:52 AM

I hope she does come back to it, Susan.

Amazing how shitty our society can treat a "Gold Star Mom."

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Wesley S
Date: 29 May 07 - 12:02 PM

Why shouldn't she write a book? It's not like she'll be competing for the profits that Dick Cheney will be making on his dirty little war.His retirement fund is safe.

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 May 07 - 12:36 PM

"Why shouldn't she write a book? It's not like she'll be competing for the profits that Dick Cheney will be making on his dirty little war.His retirement fund is safe."

          Cheney's retirement will be humungous once he gets paid off from Haliburton for all the business he swung their way.

          And there's no reason she shouldn't write a book. At least she'll probably write her own book, and more power to her.

          I watched Glen Beck in an interview, and some reporter was chiding him for not writing his own book. His comment was, "Nobody actually writes their own books."

          I have more faith in Cindy.

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 07 - 12:48 PM

Sheehan criticized "blind party loyalty" as a danger, no matter which side it involved, and said the current two-party system is "corrupt" and "rapidly descending into . . .a fascist corporate wasteland."

Sheehan said she had sacrificed a 29-year marriage and endured threats to put all her energy into stopping the war. What she found, she wrote, was a movement "that often puts personal egos above peace and human life."

But she said the most devastating conclusion she had reached "was that Casey did indeed die for nothing ... killed by his own country which is beholden to and run by a war machine that even controls what we think".

"Casey died for a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months while Democrats and Republicans play politics with human lives," she wrote.


Dead right all the way. Cindy Sheehan is a woman who has woken up from whatever romantic illusions she may have had about her society and its supposed democracy. She has seen the reality of the situation.

I wish her well, and I hope that people will leave her alone now to get on with her own life and find some personal peace and happiness.

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 May 07 - 01:00 PM

from CNN:

"Anti-war mom Cindy Sheehan gives up her protest

POSTED: 11:23 a.m. EDT, May 29, 2007

Story Highlights• Sheehan: My son "did indeed die for nothing"
• She is upset that Democrats and anti-war politicians can't end Iraq war
• She is exhausted by the personal, financial and emotional toll
• "I am going to take whatever I have left and go home," she wrote

(CNN) -- Cindy Sheehan, the California mother who became an anti-war leader after her son was killed in Iraq, declared Monday she was walking away from the peace movement.

She said her son died "for nothing."

Sheehan achieved national attention when she camped outside President Bush's home in Crawford, Texas, throughout August 2005 to demand a meeting with the president over her son's death.

While Bush ignored her, the vigil made her one of the most prominent figures among opponents of the war.

But in a Web diary posted to the liberal online community Daily Kos on Monday, Sheehan said she was exhausted by the personal, financial and emotional toll of the past two years.

She wrote that she is disillusioned by the failure of Democratic politicians to bring the unpopular war to an end and tired of a peace movement she said "often puts personal egos above peace and human life."

Casey Sheehan, a 24-year-old Army specialist, was killed in an April 2004 battle in Baghdad. His death prompted his mother to found Gold Star Families for Peace.

But in Monday's 1,200-word letter, titled, "Good Riddance Attention Whore," Sheehan announced that her son "did indeed die for nothing."

"I have tried ever since he died to make his sacrifice meaningful," she wrote. "Casey died for a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months while Democrats and Republicans play politics with human lives.

"It is so painful to me to know that I bought into this system for so many years, and Casey paid the price for that allegiance. I failed my boy and that hurts the most."

Cindy Sheehan's sister, DeDe Miller, told CNN that the group would continue working for humanitarian causes, but drop its involvement in the anti-war movement. As for her sister's letter, Miller said, "She cried for quite a bit after writing it."

Sheehan warned that the United States was becoming "a fascist corporate wasteland," and that onetime allies among Bush's Democratic opposition turned on her when she began trying to hold them accountable for bringing the 4-year-old war to a close.

In the meantime, she said her antiwar activism had cost her her marriage, that she had put the survivor's benefits paid for her son's death and all her speaking and book fees into the cause and that she now owed extensive medical bills.

"I am going to take whatever I have left and go home," she wrote. "I am going to go home and be a mother to my surviving children and try to regain some of what I have lost.

"I will try to maintain and nurture some very positive relationships that I have found in the journey that I was forced into when Casey died and try to repair some of the ones that have fallen apart since I began this single-minded crusade to try and change a paradigm that is now, I am afraid, carved in immovable, unbendable and rigidly mendacious marble."

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Stringsinger
Date: 29 May 07 - 01:08 PM

This country has treated Cindy in a disgraceful manner. That goes for the phony Dems as well as the corrupt Repugs.

But they did the same thing to MLK. A few churches were burnt or bombed before his words were heard.

And now 600,000 Iraqi lives and 3,400 (if you can believe the stats) American lives have been sacrificed for nothing before Cindy's words are heard.

Remember the analogy of the frog in the slowly boiling water? Amerika Uber Alles.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 May 07 - 01:32 PM

Peace and Beardedbruce, if you wish to call each other "asshole," please do it in private. your little squabble was deleted.

Tarheel linked to an Associated Press story about Cindy Sheehan's disillusionment with the politics on both sides of the Iraq War issue. I think this excerpt sums it up:

When she had first taken on Bush, Sheehan was a darling of the liberal left. "However, when I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode and the 'left' started labeling me with the same slurs that the right used," she wrote.

"I guess no one paid attention to me when I said that the issue of peace and people dying for no reason is not a matter of 'right or left', but 'right and wrong,'" the diary says.

When people put ideology and "winning at all costs" ahead of true peace, that's where we get into trouble. And yes, there are many aggressive, combative members of the so-called "Peace Movement" who have no idea what peace is - they just want to make sure their side wins and destroys "the enemy." A lot of Mudcatters can be like that, too.

Peace.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Bill D
Date: 29 May 07 - 01:41 PM

It seems to me that several people are 'right', but have neglected the art of how to BE right.

It is perfectly possible to disagree or make a point without name calling and making a special effort to exaggerate issues that are already polarized.

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Bill D
Date: 29 May 07 - 01:43 PM

seems we overlapped, Joe.

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: Peace
Date: 29 May 07 - 02:06 PM

Then you make the effort to delete Tarheel's racist shit in future and there won't be any need for remarks back to it, will there!

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: tarheel
Date: 29 May 07 - 02:20 PM

Kat...what's more amazing is that you can call her a "gold star mom!"
God help us all!
Tar...

Subject: RE: BS: cindy sheehan gives up
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 May 07 - 02:22 PM

Tarheel,

The term "Gold Star mom" is given to ANY mother of a soldier killed in combat. She qualifies, and regardless of her views is entitled to the title.

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I think it's time to close this thread and start over. For some reason, people don't seem to get the idea that we don't allow name-calling and ad hominem personal attacks. I tried deleting the squabbling, but it kept going.
-Joe Offer-