Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: Folkiedave
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 07:46 AM

I misinterpreted what you said that is clear.

However - if he "was making a living" and he "was not that much of a social pariah" somebody thought must have thought he was good.

Ask the Pennine Hotel at Derby if he was ever invited back there!

(For those not familiar with the story in 1995 Manning in his usual charming way picked on two black waitresses during a dinner and whilst they were waiting on tables subjected them to a string of racist jokes. The hotel was fined £30,000).

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 07:46 AM

A "social pariah" means someone who most people find pretty repulsive.   Since "most people" doesn't mean "all people" that can still leave plenty of room for making a living.

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: guitar
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 08:26 AM

I liked Bernard Manning because unlike these PC people he wasn't scared to speak his mind, in other words he was more honest than some people I know and he was funny, as Frank Carson says people that don't like him they don't have a sense of humour.

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: guitar
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 08:33 AM

I'm a fan of him as well, and as for these 'people' that say good riddance and great news, don't have any respect for their fellow human beings and yet they say that they believe in PC

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: Teribus
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 08:34 AM

Odd but so far no-one has mentioned the enormous amount of charity work he did outwith the glare of publicity, often for those very same groups that he was accused of hating and ridiculing.

In reading about him in todays papers it becomes obvious that those who knew him all speak very highly of him, those who didn't, as we see here don't.

He did go across to the USA and he "played" in Las Vegas, his crack there, around the time of Nixon's impeachment, was that they should never have subjected their elected leader to such a process of humiliation, they should have just allowed Ted Kennedy to give him a lift home. He went down a storm and was offered a very lucrative contract over in the US but turned it down.

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: guitar
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 10:52 AM

I forgot about that

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: Bert
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 11:48 AM

Re Fawlty Towers.

You say - 'They would deny, rightly, that were creating exact stereotypes of anyone'

Actually Fawlty Towers WAS based on a real life hotel manager.

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: Rog Peek
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 12:24 PM

I heard a great one on the way to work today:

"Bernard manning will get a surprise when he meets God and finds that she's black!"

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: GUEST,a fan
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 03:15 PM

What a divided, opinated lot you are out there! I have been following this debate throughout and I can't help but wonder why one man has caused such strong feelings amongst certain people. Is it because we found a man funny? The black woman God created Bernard to make people laugh: she'll be delighted to have him back where he'll be appreciated.

'Languistic tyranny': language has slowly become a victim of people and groups with their own agendas. Words have been hijacked by groups; phrases have been made taboo. A hypocritical media has fuelled panic among certain groups because a word or phrase has been used. The end of the 70s saw the end of reasoned debate -as this thread clearly demonstrates. Eveyone must watch what she says!

PS BM was still Britain's funniest commedian!

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: GUEST,a fan
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 03:37 PM

Modern comedy offends no one. The funniest shows of the 'Post Manning Age' were: "Have I got News for You" with Angus Deyton in the chair (removed by the hypocrites) and "Spitting Image" (which offended everyone). To offend no one is nice (nice is such a bland, meaninglesss word, isn't it?) and the comedy is equally bland. A woman stand-up comedian cracked a so-called joke on BBC TV the other night: "I watched the 'Shining' the last night and the leading man reminded me of a young Jack Nicholson," You couldn't make this shite up.

I love Jo Brand's 'in your face' comedy, because it offends.

Subject: RE: BS: Britain's greatest comedian is dead
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 03:42 PM

Basil was indeed inspired by a real hotel manager but he was hardly a stereotype of hotel managers in general.   John Cleese did not set out to create a stereotype. Anyway, flippin' 'eck, anyone who can say they find Bernard Manning funny but not Basil Fawlty...well, stone the crows is all I can say!

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: GUEST,a fan
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 03:56 PM

Talking of Jo Brand and offending people, reminded me of the time she silenced the puppet, Basil Brush. They were both on the same football comedy programme and Basil had been trying to score cheap sexist points off Jo. She stunned the presenters, had the audience in stitches and silenced the terrible Brush, when she said: " Any more out of you and I'll stick you up my fanny." There was no "Boom Boom" from Basil.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Mann
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 03:59 PM

Wear the fox hat!

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 01:22 AM

Some very interesting views here, I mainly agree with Akenaton though!

And also if you strip 'humour' down to basics it's ALWAYS about someone or something being ridiculed, there is always the 'butt' of the joke, so, if it's not OK to take the piss out of religion/race/sexuality etc then it shouldn't be OK to take the piss out of anything should it? so why not ban humour altogether as an offensive thing? I honestly think that's where we're headed!

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 03:09 AM

In the early 90s, before anyone knew who he was, John Thompson (Cold Feet, etc) used to open for Steve Coogan. He did a character called Bernard Right-on, who was clearly based on Bernard Manning. But he was announced before coming on stage as being a Northern club comedian who had had a "road-to-Damascus conversion" after meeting Claire Short at a political function. So on he comes - velvet dickie bow, purple dinner jacket, sideboards, drinking a pint of mild and puffing on a fag. And his Bernard Manning impression was spot-on.

"There was a black fella..." the audience tenses. "A Jew, and a lesbian, all walked into a bar." The audience waits...

"What a lovely example of an integrated community." And the audience was in hysterics.

And on it went - all these racist and homophobic jokes given excessively PC endings. It was brilliantly observed, and very funny.

I don't think anything Bernard Manning actually did in his act was half as clever.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: guitar
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 03:41 AM

these new comdians are not funny Jo brand and their ilk just think it's funny to swear and be sexist, racist, and everything else, they just are not funny maybe that why they are alterive comdians because they are the oppiste of comedy.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: guitar
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 03:56 AM

I've just read your 'joke' and it is not funny

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: guitar
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 04:12 AM

At the end of the day it's only a joke, and those who don't think it's a joke well where's your sense of humour, I watch these 'comedians' and I find them not funny, but mimd you we all have different sense of humour and we find different things funny.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 04:22 AM

"I've just read your 'joke' and it is not funny "

I don't care, actally. Nothing Bernard Manning ever said made me laugh, but at least Jon Thompson's act had some thought and cleverness about it, and was enjoyably subversive. Not just, "Oh look, there's a black fella. He's lazy and stupid, with a big willy. Isn't that hilarious?"

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: guitar
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 04:34 AM

what is clever about making a statement that's all it is a statement not a joke.

Did I say that I found Bernard Manning funny, yes sometimes, but some of his stuff was a bit near the bone I too sometimes didn't he was funny but these people like Jon Thomson or Jo Brand are not funny they're about as funny as a having toothache.

I was watching a prograame and Jo Brand was on and hardly anyone laughed at her 'joke'.

so much fo being funny but there you go.

I didn't come here to pick a fight with anyone.

And where did I say or even Bernard Manning say "Oh look, there's a black fella. He's lazy and stupid, with a big willy. Isn't that hilarious?". but that's your 'humour'

I just hate Political correctness that all and I'm not the only one.

that's these people that just sit on the fence and are afraid to speak their minds, anyway the man's dead so some respect, I mean who would like someone to be disrespctful to a member of family when they die.

let bygones be bygones.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: guitar
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 04:44 AM

let's not fight over this, you have your heroes and I have mine, you and I find different things funny.

lets agree to disagree

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 05:11 AM

I've got a toothache at the moment... frankly it's better than having to watch Bernard Manning and his offensive material. I never liked it in the '70's when it was OK to laugh at racist jokes, I don't like them now. I hope I'm "politically correct", I know that sometimes I slip, but I'm willing to learn and change. I'm certainly not afraid to speak my mind, such as it is, but I don't sit on any fence. I try to make a gate in it.

I'm sure the man himself was a good person, did chariddy work and so on,   The man may have been good, the way he made his living wasn't. What is it with most people when they are dead? Suddenly they're sainted and venerated regardless of how they behaved in life.

Last week, whilst walking down Whitehall, London, I got caught up in a protest. On one side of the T junction was a group of men in headscarves and khaki, On the other, a group of women in burkhas, some with infants in their arms. On the third corner, a group of men with short hair and white faces.   The abuse, hatred and vitriol directed by this last group towards the women was incredible. The comments they were bawling across the street were remarkably similar to the "jokes" that Bernard Manning told throughout his career.

I'm not a fearful person - I wouldn't have moved to London if I were - but it struck me then, that of all the people on that road, the ones that scared me most were the third group, the group that is gaining a greater political foothold in my area.

Much as I hate London, I love being in an area that has such a fantastic mix of colours, creeds and abilities. It's the continual propogation of segregation that breeds fear, mistrust and hatred, and I'm sorry if you think otherwise, that's your right, but it's "humour" such as that shared by Manning that encourages and condones it.

LTS

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Nick
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 05:15 AM

Heard a suitably tasteless joke yesterday -

What's black and doesn't work?














Bernard Manning's kidneys

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Nick
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 05:18 AM

Sorry - liver not kidneys.

Offally confused

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: guitar
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 05:22 AM

I agree with you LTS

what has Jon Thompson and Joe brand and their fellow comdians done to help their fellow man, they trapese around an african village and stand there and say 'this village really needs a new school/hospital' and so just pick up the phone and just give whatever money you have to... and it will only cost £30,000 to build, well why don't they go to bank and lift out £30,000 of their own money and give that to the african village, and this is true about all other famous men and women, they want the people that can ill afford to do this but these rich people have what is known as short arms and deep pockets.

at lest Bernard Manning gave money to charity and raise a lot as well.

As I say I try and be Politcally correct but like you I sometimes slip as well. and the jokes of the 1970's were funny then but not now.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: guitar
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 05:33 AM

I remeber a girl said to Frank Carson of being racist because he told Irish Jokes, and he said but i'm Irish, so how can he racist by telling jokes about his own kind, and himself

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: guitar
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 06:02 AM

what about the goodies, I mean they were not to bad, but mind you they did come from the 1970's

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Mann
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 06:07 AM

Let's get rid of this idea that because he did work for charity that made it OK to tell racist jokes.

If I deal in hard drugs and then give half the money to charity it doesn't make the drug dealing any better. It is the way he earned his living that is in question.

I remember a girl said to Frank Carson of being racist because he told Irish Jokes, and he said but I'm Irish, so how can he racist by telling jokes about his own kind, and himself.

Of course it is not OK to tell jokes that depend on crude stereotyping whatever your nationality.

Ireland is one of the "tiger" economies of Europe and one of the reasons is because (in general) it has such a highly-educated and young workforce. Ever heard an Irish joke that relies on the fact that the Irish are well-schooled, and have an economy based on electronics and high levels of skills? Or is the stereotyping nearly always based on how unintelligent the Irish are - which is a travesty of the truth?

As Brendan Behan once said "The Irish were an educated nation when the English were still running around in woad"

And that's stereotyping too.......

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Rog Peek
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 06:17 AM

I guess what we're talking about comes between 'political correctness' and 'anything goes' and of course we all draw our line according to our own take on it. For me, Bernard Manning often operated well below, (or above depending on your viewpoint) where I draw the line.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 06:29 AM

I once won a digital radio off the Radio Times by writing their letter of the week.

I won't defend Bernard's jokes, but it does seem to me that people wilfully misunderstand him - particularly the Radio Times's smart arse interviewer, who usually spends his sycophantic life crawling up the arses of the stars. He sensed that Bernard had few defenders and tore into him. I just hate that sort of intellectual bullying.

I can't remember what exactly I said in my letter, but approximately:-
Alternative comedy nights charging fifteen quid a ticket, Cambridge Footlights Review, Caroline Aherne (comedy genius though she is) with her invited audience - there was none of that with Bernard Manning. he wasn't like Winnie the Pooh that had to stay in Hundred Acre Wood afforded by invited tv audiences - he had become the grotesque that was Bernard Manning by going out in the real world, and by working very rough clubs that anybody can walk into off the street for a few pence.

he had made himself into what he was, and there was no mistaking his intention - in a roomful ordinary bods you could lose Michael Palin as an accountant or a teacher - but Bernard Manning looked funny. That's what he did with his life.

People who slag him off have generally no idea of the creative effort that goes into making anything - let alone turning oneself into a fount of that kind of charisma. In some ways he reminded me of the late blues singer Gerry Lockran, and the young Davy Graham - just extraordinary looking. There is a frisson of excitement such extraordinary characters carry with them.

Roll on the day when we have the Campaign for Real Entertainers - instead of the latest tosser soap star or pretty boy Simon Cowell decides is going to be a 'star'.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 06:33 AM

Liz wrote:

"On the third corner, a group of men with short hair and white faces.   The abuse, hatred and vitriol directed by this last group towards the women was incredible. The comments they were bawling across the street were remarkably similar to the 'jokes' that Bernard Manning told throughout his career."

That says it all. Manning and his dodgy ilk served only to legitimise verbal abuse of minority groups in the eyes of his fans. If a successful public figure can say it then it must be OK. A great role model for all those people who went to his club. He claimed he wasn't a racist (I'd dispute that), but even if he wasn't he was helping to perpetuate a culture in which it was deemed acceptable to reinforce crude racial stereotyping. I'd like his defenders here to tell me what good this did in terms of promoting harmony among people of different races, cultures and religions. I hear he was banned from some clubs. A pound to a penny the BNP wouldn't have banned him.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Mann
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 06:59 AM

I wonder how many of the people here who are slahhing Bernard off have actually seen his act, or are the just repeating the often untrue hearsay passed on by the PC brigade.

Stan Boardman is a truly offensive comedian, and a traitor to his class, unlike Bernard Manning.

eric

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 07:12 AM

So we either love Manning to bits or we're "the PC brigade." God, how predictable. As for untrue hearsay, a few minutes ago I just idly googled "Bernard Manning BNP" and came up with (apart from his doings with the BNP) some "lovely" jokes of his. Are you pretending that he didn't say what he said? Go on, have a look! Bloke went to South Africa looking for a job. The factory manager gave him a revolver and told him to go out and shoot six niggers and a rabbit. The bloke said "Why do I have to shoot a rabbit?" He got the job. What's the difference between a Paki and a bucket of shit?   The bucket. Hilarious stuff and so useful for promoting good relations! He said what he said and it can't be unsaid and the internet will preserve it for ever more. That is not untrue hearsay. It came out of his filthy mouth, it's full of hate and spite, and was most decidedly not made up malevolently by the PC brigade!

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: GUEST,chalky
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 07:14 AM

"traitor to his class" - ha,ha, ha

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Mann
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 07:20 AM

I have never seen his act. I have heard him on the radio. And there is plenty of his material on the internet.

At a police force charity dinner near Manchester, Manning targeted the single black officer in a crowd of 300, regaling him with lines such as "Having a night out with nice white people? Isn't this better than swinging from the trees?" The show was secretly filmed for World in Action and questions were asked in parliament. Ken Livingstone asked John Major, the then prime minister, to "condemn the use of the word 'nigger' by the comedian Bernard Manning, and endorse the comments of the local chief constable that that was a vile, racist performance".

Manning was apparently unabashed because a few months later he offended two black waitresses at a Round Table dinner at the Pennine hotel, Derby, using words such as wog, nigger and sambo. That cost the hotel £30,000 for each waitress.

He was a racist bigot and needs to be treated as such.

All the rest, his lightning quick timing etc is a mere a bagatelle. Hitler had good timing when he spoke too.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 07:27 AM

no that was the point - you don't have to like him. he developed his 'scorched earth' style in places were they didn't have to like him.

Places where it takes a brave man to stand up there with a guitar and a load of popular songs. he went there with tuxedo, and by all accounts it worked.

I just get fed up with pwoplw who haven't the intelligence to appreciate creative effort..... its like those people who say Billy Connolly just gets up there and swears. Okay, well you get up ther and swear ...see if you can hold an audience.

Bernard Manning succeded with some of the shittiest audiences on the planet. Okay you don't get it........lets hope St Peter does.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 07:30 AM

In fact I hope St Peter puts some of these buggers on the same cloud as bernard telling his crap jokes, they deserve it.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 07:55 AM

Right - so to be true to your working class roots you have to be racist, sexist and homophobic?

"let alone turning oneself into a fount of that kind of charisma." Yes! In Louis Theroux's interview with BM, as he was interviewed eating his dinner off his lap wearing nothing but his dirty-looking underwear, I thought, "Wow - what a fount of charisma."

"He claimed he wasn't a racist (I'd dispute that)" ...so, presumably, would the waitresses at that Derbyshire hotel who were subjected to his vile bullying racism, as pointed out earlier by Dave.

You know, I've met a fair few racists in my time. Most of them will start very dodgy conversations with the words, "I'm not racist, but..." They seem to think only hood-wearing and cross-burning constitutes racism. Well ,the most insidious and harmful types of racism (and sexism and homophobia) are the little things that happen every day, which help to legitimise abhorrent points of view. As liz cogently pointed out earlier, people like Manning legitimise the views of racist thugs.

Nice legacy.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:02 AM

wld    I'm really beginning to like you after all our "barneys"

I understand exactly what you're saying.
It takes guts to stand up in front of a thousand people all full of beer and all thinking ..."Right make me laugh you fat bastard"

The behavour of those who go in for the character assasination of a dead man, comes across as the antithesis of Mannings

Fucking Pygmies.....Oh dear is that racist?   Its certainly a slur on the Pygmies!!.............Ake

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:06 AM

The problem with stating the blindingly obvious is that the stater will be assumed to condone the object of the statements and what was done by the object.

However for the rational and logical not blinkered by their feelings: discuss..........

He not only earned a good living but ran a club based on his chosen approach.

That alone is saying something - he new his audience, and his market.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Mann
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:09 AM

I never met or heard Hitler either. And he was a genius - he could hold an audience of thousands in the palm of his hand.

As for whether I could do it I once spoke to a huge audience (5,000+ or so) and told a non-racist joke. Bernard Manning couldn't have done it. Not in Catalan anyway.

WLD do you call people black people "sambo" or "wog" or "nigger"? Are those words acceptable in the company you move in when referring to black people? If not why not, or do you believe it is OK to use those words when you are Bernard Manning/anyone else telling jokes based on crude stereotyping?

Bernard Manning was a racist. If you wish to defend him just admit you are defending a racist, not a comedian.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:17 AM

"I just get fed up with pwoplw who haven't the intelligence to appreciate creative effort..... "

Is theis the sort of creative effort you're on about, WLD?

"Bloke went to South Africa looking for a job. The factory manager gave him a revolver and told him to go out and shoot six niggers and a rabbit. The bloke said "Why do I have to shoot a rabbit?" He got the job. What's the difference between a Paki and a bucket of shit?   The bucket."

I think that's a level of "creativity" the world could do without.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:18 AM

This is a thread about BM.

You want to discuss racism? open another thread.
I'll even start it of for you.
"Do Britain's ethnic communities respect/ like the British??

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Mann
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:21 AM

Is that poor messenger getting shot again?
Tut Tut !

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:25 AM

Bernard Manning was a racist, who made racist jokes. Racism is relevant to the discussion.

Those jokes were HIS jokes. They prove just how vile and hate-filled his "humour" was. If that makes you uneasy, perhaps you should re-think your defense of him.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:27 AM

BTW, akenaton, I think you've nailed your colours to the mast with this question:

"Do Britain's ethnic communities respect/ like the British??"

...but you're not a racist either, are you?

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: GUEST,mine
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:35 AM

I wonder how these people that hate Bernard Manning would feel if someone went to their family or friends and found out that they were dead and said GOOD RIDDANCE

where's your respect, I mean show some respect for the man and his family, and if you don't then you're just as bad or worse

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: GUEST,Canadienne
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:55 AM

dei morti parla bene - why not?

How can you mourn a man who regarded the humilition of people based on race or gender as a joke?
How can you express sympathy for or spare the feelings of any relatives without condoning that?

I take no pleasure in this man's death, just a great sense of relief that there is one less person out there peddling this invidious, so-called humour

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Mann
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:57 AM

I might have agreed with you had he respected people when telling jokes.

Of course he had his limits - he wouldn't tell mother-in-law jokes.

But it was OK to tell jokes about black people.

Subject: RE: Britain's greatest comedian dead-Bernard Manning
From: GUEST,anti-pc
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 08:57 AM

These people like Ruth and her ilk, don't have any respect for anyone because they don't show any respect for anyone that is dead, ok the guy told some terrible jokes, but at the end of the day he was a human being and you must show some respect towards his family and friends, if you don't then who is more disrepectful eh! at lest he tried to make the world a better place unlike some of the people on here.

RIP BIG MAN