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Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?

CarolC 10 Jul 07 - 07:20 PM
GUEST,dianavan 10 Jul 07 - 07:21 PM
GUEST,dianavan 10 Jul 07 - 07:25 PM
GUEST,mg 10 Jul 07 - 07:26 PM
CarolC 10 Jul 07 - 07:27 PM
GUEST,mg 10 Jul 07 - 07:52 PM
Don Firth 10 Jul 07 - 08:18 PM
GUEST,dianavan 10 Jul 07 - 08:45 PM
cookster 10 Jul 07 - 08:53 PM
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artbrooks 10 Jul 07 - 09:00 PM
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Little Hawk 10 Jul 07 - 09:17 PM
GUEST,meself 10 Jul 07 - 09:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:20 PM

Good point, meself. And I've noticed (and commented on another thread), that the only Canadians I ever see behaving in this particular way are ones who immigrate there from other countries. It seems a pretty unCanadian way to behave, from my experience of Canadians.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:21 PM

Hey Carol, you said you preferred to be called a 'USAn'. So be it.

As for those who call themselves, American, I just don't buy it. If they can't give themselves an appropriate name, then others can call them anything they like. They leave themselves wide open for being so smug.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:25 PM

Which gets back to the topic of this thread.

Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?

Answer: Because they are so smug. In Korean thats

Àß³­ üÇÏ´Â, »µ±â´Â

I think the Iranians just call them ass-holes.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:26 PM

Oh dear..who is being smug? I think calling someone an Amerat is hate speech and does the world need it really? mg


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:27 PM

Yes, I do prefer USAn. But you said you were going to call, all "Americans" (USAns) Amerats, as long as any of us call ourselves Americans. But still, Amerat sounds like a pretty hateful term to be using against an entire group of many millions of people.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:52 PM

We as individuals did not give ourselves that name. It has been what we were called forever and has deep meaning..nothing else comes close or sounds nice. As far as I am concerned everyone in the world can call themselves that but I intend to continue to call myself an American. Hatred spreads. We have enough. We don't need more. mg


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 08:18 PM

Amerats.

Yep. Right up there with Japs, Chinks, Spicks, Wops, Krauts, and Frogs. . . .

And thus another racial/ethnic/national slur goes into the world's lexicon of hate speach.

Way to go, dianavan! Just what the world needs.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 08:45 PM

O.K., O.K.

You are definitely Americans.

What about the ones who call other people names. Can I call them Amerats?


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: cookster
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 08:53 PM

And Jerries.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: cookster
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 08:56 PM

And charlies.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: artbrooks
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:00 PM

Why invent a new name like "Amerirats" for people who call others names? Bigot will do.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: cookster
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:02 PM

Where are you from?


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: cookster
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:06 PM


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:17 PM

Some informal names for Canadians....

Canucks
Muklukers
Pucksters
Toqueheads
Newfies (regional - Newfoundland)
Tabernacs (regional - Quebec)
Black Fly Bait (semi-regional, but really almost anywhere north of, oh, Orillia, I guess)
Snow Eaters (insulting variant: Yellow Snow Eaters)
Moose Shaggers
Beaver Lovers

Heh! Remember, I'm Canadian. Just goofing around here...


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:20 PM

I've only ever heard of Canucks and Newfies - I think you just made the rest of those up. Let's face it: we're not important enough to warrant a real epithet.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:26 PM

Yeah, "meself"...heh! I did make up most of them...but not "tabernacs". Most definitely not. That's a real one. The Mexicans have been known to refer to Canadian francophone tourists as "tabernacs". Guess why...

Say, here's another one. I think people used to call rural Canadian workmen (such as lumberjacks and railway workers) "pea-soupers" at one time.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:53 PM

Beaver Lovers

This just sounds like bragging to me.

;-)


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:03 PM

I always understood 'pea-soupers' - or 'pea-soups' - to be French-Canadians.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: cookster
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:26 PM

I've always understood Rednecks as people who live in Arkansas.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:31 PM

Yeah, you're right, come to think of it. "Pea soupers" referred to French Canadians.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: Stringsinger
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 11:44 PM

The real question is why does the American Adminstration hate Iraq and Korea? The psychologists call this "projection".

OK, the answer is that some groups mobilize politically by creating enemies. It's a way of consolidating power.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 12:18 AM

There are further reasons. When you create a gigantic defence (actually, it's offence) industry and a huge military and an enormous covert spying agency which deals in drugs, assassination, undeclared wars, and takeovers, you need official enemies in order to justify the allocation of funds and resources, and in order to justify using your dogs of war. If one official enemy goes down, another must soon be found. Otherwise there are huge vested interests who will find themselves in deep trouble, and important people will start losing money.

That can't be allowed to happen, so further enemies are always found...either abroad...or at home...or both.

This doesn't mean there aren't some real enemies. After all, anyone with such destructive programs underway as I described above is bound to have real enemies...a lot of them. It's the inevitable result of being the biggest criminal on the block.

Al Capone and Bugsy Siegel had real enemies too...and for the same basic reasons. He who lives by the sword and by treachery and by force is always in danger of dying by the sword and by treachery and by force. What goes around comes around.

This is also true of despots such as those in power in North Korea and Iran, by the way. They too create their own bad karma by their own negative actions and bad attitudes toward those they have assigned as their enemies.

So it goes both ways.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 10:09 AM

When you create a gigantic defence [sic] (actually, it's offence [sic]) industry and a huge military...

One of the major problems the US is having in Iraq (besides the moral one of being there in the first place) is that the defense budget is about half of what it was during the Reagan years (in constant dollars) and the Army itself is much smaller than it was during the Cold War.


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:44 AM

(Note: "defenCe" and "offenCe" are the standard British and Canadian spellings).


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Subject: RE: Why do Iraq,and Korea hate America?
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:55 AM

Ah...apologies!!


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