BS: Optomistic pesimist

Subject: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: Megan L
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 04:18 AM

Gioks cabbage thread made me think of something else we often said.

"An optomist see the glass as half full. Apesimist sees it as half empty."

It made me wonder what are you today? half full or half empty. Mind you according to dauvitt there is a third option "Whit blighter pinched the flamin glass."

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: skipy
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 04:27 AM

Maybe the glass was made too big for the job.
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:08 AM

Surely you mean "an optometrist sees the glasses half full", that's because they put a slide over one eye when they are testing you. And "Apesimist" must be the chimps I didn't see.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:21 AM

Pedantic spellcheck: optimist, pessimist...

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: jacqui.c
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:41 AM

Glass half full for me, but Kendall has called me a Pollyana.....

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:45 AM

Glass is half full for me too.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:45 AM

I thought it was half-empty when you went to drink it, but half-full when you knocked it over.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: jacqui.c
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:53 AM

I have a friend who says that it's the wrong sized glass.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 07:03 AM

Better to be a pessimist. Things can only get better than you expect...
And if they don't, there's the satisfaction of being right!

For an optimist, things can only get worse.
Quack!
GtD.

as for the half empty pint - Barman, I think this one needs a top-up!

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 09:09 AM

My usual orientation is this (which I made up myself): I am not an optiminst. I persist against discouragement, but I am not optimistic.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 09:12 AM

"Better to be a pessimist. Things can only get better than you expect...
And if they don't, there's the satisfaction of being right!

For an optimist, things can only get worse."


True wisdom!!!!!

A pessimist is never disappointed: and optimist usually is.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: Amos
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 09:56 AM

IT is not wisdom if your highest goal is to avoid disappointment. An optimist also sees hope for the future and ways to make things better, which inspires and enlivens his life in ways the pessimist cannot experience, having cut himself off from his own creative powers.

Of course, these things come in many flavors. I, too, get cynical in the face of unreasoning exuberance. But nevertheless I have a strong belief in the fundamental postive impact of life striving against chaos and entropy.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 10:11 AM

Drink the half glass, then fill it up again.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 12:34 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States:

"I think that the vice president is a person reflecting a half-glass-full mentality." --George W. Bush, interview on National Public Radio, Jan. 29, 2007

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 04:26 PM

All depends what the glass contained in the first place. With some drinks half empty sounds better than half full.
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Chesterton once wrote in this connection: "Upon the whole, I came to the conclusion that the optimist thought everything good except the pessimist, and that the pessimist thought everything bad, except himself." But as a preferred alternative he wrote "An optimist is a man who looks after your eyes, and a pessimist is a man who looks after your feet."

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 05:00 PM

If you're filling the glass, at halfway it's half full. If you are emptying the glass, at halfway it's half empty.

The optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist fears that that's true.

Then there was something about a realist but I don't remember the quote...

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: rehab1
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 02:39 PM

Half empty been there, half full been there. We can handle empty but, can we handle half full, or overflowing. That is, can we really allow ourselves to be poss and not neg.

We live in language. People say often it was too good to be true, but, it might have been if they just went with it.

The active, alive man is like a vessel that grows as it is filled and will never be full. From...Fromm talking about what Blakney said of us. Have not read him in decades thanks to Megan fell upon it today.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: GUEST,Victoria
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 11:34 PM

The glass is half full of piss.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: GUEST,Mickey191
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 11:54 PM

I'm viewing it as half empty. I've been under a dark cloud for months now. Don't tell me to cheer up old girl. All of the bad things have been under the control of others. However, they've affected me adversly--and it continues on.

And in about 8 minutes it will be Friday the 13th!
Oh Joy!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: John O'L
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 12:03 AM

I have a pair of glasses. One is half full, the other half is empty. The other is half empty, being full to halfway. I pour from one to the other and drink the lot in one, then drink what's left in the other. I take away the glass I first thought of. Where was I?

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: JennyO
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 03:24 AM

Pissed as usual :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: Bert
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 03:42 AM

Well don't cheer up old girl then Mickey191 if you don't wanna. But we love you anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 04:36 AM

Half full definitely. And I am very pleased with that, because half a glass is all I wanted in the first place.

On this subject, my second most favourite quote, from Les Barker: "Always borrow from a pessimist. He doesn't expect it back".

And my favourite quote, from Oscar Wilde:
"An optimist believes that this is the best of all possible worlds.
A pessimist believes the same".

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: Barry Finn
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 10:52 AM

I've always been pathologically affirmative, if the glass is only half full give it a chance & it will overflow in no time at all.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: autolycus
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 11:13 AM

Then there is the self-fulfilling prophecy syndrome.

I leave you to fill in the missing bits of that thought, or somebody helpful will.






       Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 12:24 PM

This from rehab1, "People say often it was too good to be true, but, it might have been if they just went with it", brought this to mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist
From: GUEST,Mickey191
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 12:26 PM

Thanks Bert! Feelin' Fair to Midlin at the moment.