BS: ATM Robbery information (hoax)

Subject: A.T.M. security!
From: dame leon
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 05:07 PM

Subject:


PIN NUMBER REVERSAL (GOOD TO KNOW)

If you should ever be forced by a robber to withdraw money from an ATM machine, you can notify the police by entering your Pin in reverse.

For example if your pin number is 1234 then you would put in 4321. The ATM recognizes that your pin number is backwards from the ATM card you placed in the machine.

The machine will still give you the money you requested, but unknown to the robber, the police will be immediately dispatched to help you.

This information was recently broadcasted on TV and it states that it is seldom used because people don't know it exists.

Please pass this along to everyone possible.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 05:11 PM

Don't pass it along. It's not true.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Amergin
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 05:11 PM

Crap like this is easy to verify whether true or false....this is false....an easy search on the net can tell you.

Pin reversal

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: dame leon
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 05:21 PM

Thanks might as well ask joe to delete this then.

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Well, it serves to alert people to the hoax, so it's worthwhile to keep the thread.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 05:40 PM

If dame leon doesn't mind the personal notoreity, exposing a lie is just as good for the community as creating a new one.

I'd leave the thread up for the day, since this is another fairly persistent - and potentially harmful - rumor.

John

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Becca72
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 06:34 PM

I'm just being picky here, but 2 of my biggest pet peeves are used in the opening post. ATM Machine...the M stands for Machine. The same applies to PIN number....that what the N is for...duh.

Ok, thanks for letting me be a little childish.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 06:36 PM

If you were in Canada, you could vote for the NDP Party, Becca.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 06:37 PM

Brought to you from the Department of Redundancy Department.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Becca72
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 06:40 PM

LOL...exactly, Cluin

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 01:20 AM

And when you go to Japan, be sure to climb Mt. Fujiyama.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 02:31 AM

- Do you understand what is meant by "ATM machine" and "PIN number"?
- Is there any possible ambiguity?
- Does it cost you anything to hear "ATM" and "PIN" used incorrectly?

If the answers are as I suspect, then what does it matter?

I always use "cash machine" rather than ATM and would have to spend a second or two figuring out what was wanted if ATM was used.

As "PIN" is pronounced as a single word, a possible, though admittedly unlikely, ambiguity could arise relating to pins used in other contexts. I think "PIN number" is an improvement.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 02:46 AM

Ah, yes. Personal Identification Number number. And the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Makes sense to me.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 10:52 AM

It's called an 'ole in the wall and you put in your pint number to withdraw beer vouchers.

Easy.

:D

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Becca72
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 11:03 AM

Do you understand what is meant by "ATM machine" and "PIN number"?


yes, Doug, I do. I also understand what is meant by ATM and PIN. As I stated above, it's a pet peeve of mine. If it's not a pet peeve of yours, so be it.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 05:59 PM

Becca - it drives me up the wall too... like using decimated to describe total destruction, rather than 90%.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Becca72
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 06:26 PM

The misuse of "literally" drives me nuts, too, Liz.

I overheard someone say "I literally jumped out of my skin". As this person was actually still inside her skin, I assumed that she had no ideal what "literally" meant.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 06:28 PM

They literally had no idea what literally meant?

:D

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 06:54 PM

"Becca - it drives me up the wall too... like using decimated to describe total destruction, rather than 90%."

Errrr! Sorry Liz, that's 10%.

Decimation was the Roman Army disciplinary practice of executing every tenth man. Otherwise they'd have won far fewer battles.


Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 06:56 PM

Thanks, Don T. Liz's math made me literally jump out of my skin.

:)

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 06:57 PM

Try not to make too much of a splash when you land dear.

Don T

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Bert
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 08:05 PM

Well we call ATM's Auntie Ems.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 08:24 PM

Instead of letting things like "ATM machine" and "PIN number" disturb you, why don't you just smile knowingly and gloat in your own smugness for a while?

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 09:23 PM

What bugs me is when people call ATMs Auntie Ems.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 07:00 AM

Automatic Bonking Machine.


Love Typos...

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 08:28 AM

OK Don, sometimes for a really severe mutiny, a legion could be decimated twice. What proportion of soldiers remained afterwards?

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 09:18 AM

The more alive ones, probably...

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Midchuck
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 09:43 AM

OK Don, sometimes for a really severe mutiny, a legion could be decimated twice. What proportion of soldiers remained afterwards?

81%. The first decimation took 10%. The second took 10% of the remaining 90%, or 9% of the original total.

I think.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information
From: Midchuck
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 09:46 AM

So, Becca, do you use "presently" to mean "right now" rather than "in the very near future" which is the correct meaning? Do you use "convince" and "persuade" as though they meant the same thing? Do you use "data" as a singular?

None of us are perfect.

Peter.

PS I meant to do that.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information (hoax)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 11:49 AM

I've noticed that most people use double diminutives, like "tiny little." People seldom seem to use "little" without another adjective to emphasize it. "Great big" is even more common, but doesn't seem to be quite as obviously redundant.
I think redundancy can be a colorful and interesting part of our language. Rules, in grammar and in life, have a valuable function. But grammatical fundamentalism can really put a damper on the English language. A little redundancy is good for the soul.
-Joe, who gets his money from an ATM machine-

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information (hoax)
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 12:18 PM

Redundancy is as old as the language. It was some idiot 17th century grammarian that dreamed up the rule that "two negatives make a positive", whereas from the first written English documents up until then it had been an intensifier. Not no harm did good Gawain never.

I went to an automatic ATM machine today, then connected a device to my computer's USB bus. My car's got ABS braking.

One plaicecism that gets me is the conflation of "refute" with "deny".

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information (hoax)
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 02:30 PM

Damn right Father JoeBro....Why use "tiny little" when you could say something better like "itsy bitsy?"

BTW, I'm not bothered by any of the above but I can't stand mixed profanities like "that cocksuckin' motherfucker." I mean, like, uh, which is the guy, ya' know?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information (hoax)
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 06:42 PM

There he goes again.

You can always rely on Spaw to set a tone of rectitude and decorum.

He's bloody right tho'

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information (hoax)
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Jul 07 - 06:30 PM

I am totally on Becca's side, (who obviously dropped the 'RE' from the first part of the name in order to avoid the potential for 'RE'becca to imply "becca-becca").

Robo who was born in New York, NY.

Subject: RE: BS: ATM Robbery information (hoax)
From: Cluin
Date: 28 Jul 07 - 08:16 PM

New York²