WWII songs

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 May 01 - 03:53 AM

Is Normandy Orchards by Keith Marsden a WWII song? Sounds like it but perhaps John O'Hagen or Graham Pirt of this forum would know best? It's a lovely song anyway.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: GUEST,Allan S,
Date: 24 May 01 - 02:14 AM

What about the song "The Ballad of Rodger Young" Don't remember all the words but---- Rodger Young Rodger Young fought and died with the men he marched among. in the everlasting glory of the Solomons lived the man Rodger Young

Gin and Lime juice at 2AM doesn't help the memory

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: DougR
Date: 24 May 01 - 01:54 AM

Yep, Toadfrog, I do remember it.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: toadfrog
Date: 24 May 01 - 01:31 AM

Doug R.
A google search suggests that you are correct. There is a "discogrophy" out there somewhere saying "(c) 1947, lyrics by T. Dilbeck." My memory gets very fuzzy back that far. Eddy Arnold does get prominent mentions out there. I had not been familiar with him.

Wow! There are actual references to "Shotgun boogie" out there! Remember that one? I was real sure I had heard the last of that.

. Well, I met a little gal and she was tall and thin
Asked her what you got, she said a box fulla tin!
I looked her up and down, said boy, this is love!
So I headed for the brush to get a big fat dove!

Shotgun boogie! (Blam, Blam!)
Boy the feathers flew!
Look out, mister dove, when I draw a bead on you!

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Big Red
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:54 PM

Although not "popular" at the time, WWII vets always react positively to THE SINKING OF THE REUBEN JAMES by Woody Guthrie.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: DougR
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:50 PM

Toadfrog: I don't recall that song coming along until after WW2. I believe Eddy Arnold had the hit, though I'm sure others recorded it. I associate it more with the very late 40's or early Fifties, but I certainly could be wrong.

Subject: Lyr Add: I'LL HOLD YOU IN MY HEART (TILL I CAN...)
From: toadfrog
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:36 PM

Ferrara:
That is one of the very best WWII songs, I can remember this much:


I'LL HOLD YOU IN MY HEART (TILL I CAN HOLD YOU IN MY ARMS)
Words and music by Eddy Arnold, Hal Horton and Tommy Dilbeck, ©1947.
As sung by Eddy Arnold.

I'll hold you in my heart
Till I can hold you in my arms,
Like you've never been held before.
I'll think of you each day,
And then I'll dream the night away,
Till you are in my arms once more.

The stars up in the sky,
Know the reason why,
I feel so blue,
When I'm away from you.

I'll hold you in my heart,
Till I can hold you in my arms,
So darlin', please wait for me!


I think Kitty Wells sang that more recently than the war. But it is hard to imagine anything that intense ever becoming popular again. Not without another World war.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: simon-pierre
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 11:33 PM

Yep, Mrrzy, Tom is right, Aristide Bruant sang "Auprès de ma blonde" before WWI.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: DougR
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 11:14 PM

Ferrara: The song you posted was a popular Bob Will's hit, "When the Yanks Raised the Stars and Stripes on Iwo Jima Isle." Tommy Duncan was the vocalist, of course, and it was very popular (in Country circles) after the battle of Iwo Jima.

Apologies if this was cleared up in other threads. Haven't read them all.

I agree that WW2 did produce some great songs.

DougR

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 03:02 PM

...and the ever popular...

"I'm a Cranky Old Yank in a Clanky Old Tank on the Streets of Yokohama with My Honolulu Mama Doin' Those Beat-o, Beat-o Flat-On-My-Seat-o, Hirohito Blues."

......Hoagy Carmichael..1942

and here is the definitive list of WW2 songs but evidently you have to go to Rochester to see them.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 12:12 PM

And there's those never-to-be-forgotten classics:

Goodbye, Mama (I'm off to Yokohama)
They Started Somethin' (but we're gonna end it)
Heil! Heil! Right in Der Fuehrer's Face!

and in a more conventional mood:
The House I Live In
Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 09:11 AM

This thought may be too late for your event but....
A few years ago we did a World War II theme afternoon with a mock radio show . The announcer did war bulletins amid Andrew Sisters type songs and radio ads with jingles and show theme songs.

It ended with the anthems from each military group with veterans invited to stand while their Corp was honored. Audience loved it. And the food included red white and blue Jello decorated with flags along with Spam.

Sometimes hokey works.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 08:54 AM

"How Ya Gonna Keep 'Em Down On The Farm (After They've Seen Paree)?"

"Now Is The Hour" is my favorite. Thanks, Billy.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Vixen
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 08:51 AM

D'Cats--

Wow! Was I surprised to find this thread at the top of the list. I thought I had posted the set list from this gig, but I don't see it here. Maybe I posted it to another thread. Anyway, (as far as I can recall) we played:

Teddy Bears' Picnic
(Blue Birds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover
Accentuate the Positive
Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree (with Anyone Else But Me)
Swinging on a Star

and two or three others that escape me right now...

We filled in the gaps with timeless sing-along songs. (e.g. Suwanee River, You Are My Sunshine, etc) Overall, it was a rousing success.

This year, the theme was the 1960s, and we had so much material we had a hard time sorting through it all. Next year, the theme is the American Civil War, but I'll start another thread asking for those songs, so don't post Civil War titles here please!

Thank you all again!

V

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 08:50 AM

Mrrzy ,

>Auprès de ma blonde - WWI or WWII?

I think that you'll find that it's more like Seven Years War ("French & Indian Wars" over the pond).

Regards

Tom

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 08:31 AM

Wheww....

The thing's that happen at Mudcat when you're offline for a couple of days. Much-Catch-Up to be done. Most of my non-Kiwi-specific song suggestions were shot down in the first few posts.

Tom - your "Kiss Me Goodnight Sergeant Major" reference must be to the Martin Page book of 1973 - I've dug out my 1975 Panther virgin - and will have to get the scanner going to salvage it - the pages are as brown as Tatton Park recruits under-dungers.....;)

Anyway, "fem-fox" (Vixen) you'll find the lyrics for many WWII "pop" songs at Hit songs from 30-90s.

NZ had a bit of a hit with "Now is the Hour" Bing Crosby had his last "Top of the Pops" with it in 1949.

Best version I can find is on Jenny George's pages at Haere Ra

Best I can do from "down-udder"

Cheers - Sam

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Sailor Dan
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 08:07 AM

Darn it, the part about this thread that hurts is I remember 90% of the songs and most of the words. One song that I didn't see mentioned was American Patrol and another one was Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition. and thats my two cents worth.

Dan

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: pastorpest
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 07:55 AM

Find a copy of "Songs from the Front and Rear: Canadian Servicemen's Songs of the Second World War" by Anthony Hopkins, Hurtig Publishers, Edmonton, 1979, ISBN 0-88830-172-3 bd or ISBN 0-88830-171-5 pa. There is excellent material there: melody lines, suggested chords and good notes about context. Mind you, you will have to edit out a lot of XXX rated material.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: GUEST,Banjo Johnny
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 01:52 AM

Looks like about 12 hrs of material there! I'm keeping the lists in case I do a show like that. If I do, however, I would omit the German songs so as to avoid offense. "Lili Marlene" did become popular in the UK and later among the other Allies. My own favorite is "A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square" - for the melody rather than for the words. (Americans note: it's pronounced Barcl'y.) == Johnny in Oklahoma City

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 10:02 PM

Auprès de ma blonde - WWI or WWII?

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: kendall
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 08:34 PM

Didn't have any luck with that link, how about
There's a Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere. Written during ww2 by a Mainer named Paul Roberts.
Rudolph was written in 1949 to be exact.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 07:56 PM

To whoever mentioned the 51st Highlanders Farewell to Sicily, It was indeed written by hamish Henderson and was performed by the Chad Mitchell Trio. As I remember, (I was rather young when I heard their version, perhaps 7 or 8 years old 1962-63)John Denver sang the lead.

Though I know this is a very late posting to the thread would be complete without mentioning the incredible Vera Lynn and two of her songs "Auf Wiedersehn, Sweetheart" and "From the Time You Say Goodbye." Both are truly splendid! regards Neil

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: DAni
Date: 28 Apr 99 - 09:55 PM

-seed, I've got 'em somewhere. Give me the weekend to listen to my (dusty) old WWII stuff and I'll write them down.

Dani

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From:
Date: 28 Apr 99 - 08:25 PM

Reta and Pete M., I don't think either story is likely. Hitler's niece was called Geli (short for Angelika), and she shot herself, as far as is known. As for the prostitute story - see Dale's research of 21 April. I've read a piece by Leip himself where he says just this - that he was linked with both girls, couldn't decide between them and decided to put them both into the song when he wrote it.
Most Germans would still associate the song with Lale Andersen today, I suspect. There is a story that the song virtually saved her life. She fell out of favour with the Nazis for some reason, but they couldn't put her in a concentration camp because she was too well loved as the singer of this song.
Don't know when Marlene took the song up, but certainly not in The Blue Angel. That film was made about seven years before the song.
Pete M., 'Ich hatt einen Kameraden' and 'Die Wacht am Rhein' are much older than the century. They go back at least to the Franco-Prussian War of 1870/71, as far as I know. It seems the Nazis didn't use the former very much. Perhaps it was too elegiac and sad for their purpose. - Susanne

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 28 Apr 99 - 04:26 PM

Pete M. I know I keep saying this, but if you look in DigiTrad for "kameraden", guess what you find.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Vixen
Date: 28 Apr 99 - 01:35 PM

D'CATS--

Again, a bazillion thanks for all the help! Tim and I are busily listening to recordings and compiling a set list. One big surprise is how many of these songs I know, but didn't know when they were written. We're aiming to learn an even dozen--we've got 6 weeks. What's cool about it all is that we just booked a retirement picnic gig 5 days after the Elderhostel gig, where I'm sure all of these songs will come in handy! As for questions about language--I'm going to stick to English for now. I've got enough to worry about hitting the right note at the right time and right volume without having to wonder if I'm pronouncing the words right. My voice box is my achilles heel right now--if I'm not careful, I might end up with athlete's mouth!

Anyway, I'll post our playlist when we get it finalized, and I'll post the response the Monday after the gig. Thanks again for all your help!

V

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Pete M
Date: 28 Apr 99 - 07:15 AM

One song which I don't think has been mentioned, I'm not sure if it originated in WW1 or 2, would be "Ich haben ein kameraden" (Apologies for any incorrect spelling/tense etc), I thought it might be in the DT but couldn't find it. Any chance of posting the lyrics Wolfgang? I was also going to mention "Wacht am Rheine", but Tom beat me to it.

Pete M

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Tom May
Date: 28 Apr 99 - 06:34 AM

One quick thought, I assumed that your concert was in English. If not (or for the sake of variety) why not throw in a couple of German songs just to see audience reaction, you already have Lili Marlene, why not add the "Panzerleid" (remember that scene in - I think - "Battle of the Bulge") or two Great War songs which still held favour, "Wacht am Rheine" or "Marineleid" ("Wir fahren gegen England") (My apologies if the spelling is incorrect, I have enough trouble in English, let alone German).

Good Luck

Tom

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Penny
Date: 26 Apr 99 - 06:18 PM

Bert, this thread was full of place names long before I put my pennyworth in. And does anyone know where Laffensplain is? It sounds a bit South African. Which would fit the Zulu, presumably Rorkes Drift references.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Tom May
Date: 26 Apr 99 - 02:12 PM

Which side of the Atlantic and what aspect of WWII? Remember servicemens' songs are quite different to civilian songs. It has been said that every war starts using the songs of the last war, my late father remembered "(Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and) Smile, Smile, Smile" and "It's a Long, Long Way to Tipperary" in 1939, (as well, of course as "Colonel Bogey"), so you can still use a number of songs from the Great War. As for title suggestions , try "A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square", "White lillies", "Run, Rabbit, Run", "Kiss Me Goodnight, Sergeant-Major" or (if you feel mischevious) "The Second Front Song". If you can get your hands on a copy, try the book "Kiss Me Goodnight Sergeant Major" (NOT the Falklands one).

Good luck.

Tom

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Ronn
Date: 26 Apr 99 - 01:10 AM

The Whole World Is Waiting For Sunrise,
All The Things You Are,
Hold Tight (I Want Some Seafood Mama),
Three Little Fishies,
Frenesi,
I'll Never Smile Again,
Polkadots and Moonbeams,
This Is the Army, Mister Jones,
God Bless The Child,
Take The "A" Train,
Java Jive,
I'll Remember April,
Jukebox Saturday Night,
Skylark,
Opus One,
Laura,
Give Me The Simple Life,
It Might As Well Be Spring,
One Meat Ball,
Baltimore Oriole,
Caledonia,
Tico-Tico,
Straighten Up and Fly Right,
It Could Happen To You,
Accentuate The Positive,
Trav'lin' Light,
You're Nobody Til Somebody Loves You,
I'll Be Home for Christmas,
Rose Ann Of Charing Cross,
and (of course) God Bless America
are all of the era.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: lingolucky
Date: 26 Apr 99 - 12:05 AM

As a navy veteran of ww2, I remember fondly listening to Roy Acuff and his Smoky Mountain boys doing Smoke on the water (on the land and the sea when our army and navy overtake the enemy). Also, how about The Sinking of the Reuben James by Woody Guthrie. thanx.

Subject: Lyr Add: DER FUEHRER'S FACE
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 25 Apr 99 - 07:12 PM

I just posted this song to another thread where a discussion of WWII songs--particularly the Horst Wessel Lied--was underway:

"Der Fuehrer's Face"
Words and music by Oliver Wallace, ©1942.
As recorded by Spike Jones and His City Slickers

Ven der fuehrer says ve iss der master race,
Ve heil! (spphhht) heil! (spphhht) right in der fuehrer's face.
Not to love der fuehrer iss a great disgrace,
So ve heil! (spphhht) heil! (spphhht) right in der fuehrer's face.

Ven Herr Goebbels says "Ve own der vorld and space,"
Ve heil! (spphhht) heil! (spphhht) right in Herr Goebbels' face.
Ven Herr Goering says, "Dey'll never bomb dis place,"
Ve heil! (spphhht) heil! (spphhht) right in Herr Goering's face.

Are ve not der supermen, Aryan pure supermen?
Ja, ve iss der supermen, super-duper supermen.
Iss dis Nazi land so good? vould you leave it if you could?
Ja, dis Nazi land is good. Ve vould leave it if ve could.

Ve bring der vorld new order;
Heil Hitler's vorld new order,
Every one of foreign race vill love der fuehrer's face,
Ven ve bring to der vorld disorder.

Ven der fuehrer says ve iss der master race,
Ve heil! (spphhht) heil! (spphhht) right in der fuehrer's face.
Not to love der fuehrer iss a great disgrace,
So ve heil! (spphhht) heil! (spphhht) right in der fuehrer's face.


It's from a Disney cartoon, with Donald Duck and others.

--seed

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: bert
Date: 24 Apr 99 - 02:07 PM

Penny,

I might have known you'd have a song about an English place name.

Bert.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Reta
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 03:58 PM

Thank you for all the information Dale. Very interesting. I don't think she was a lady of the night either Joe. I think Marlene Dietrich may have sung it in "The Blue Angel". Will try to find out. Don't know the date of that movie but it was long, long ago.

Blessings Reta

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Penny
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 01:44 PM

My Dad was in the Royal Engineers (Pioneer Corps) and he sang (sings) a song involving Upnor Hard (near Chatham, Kent), making fast a dinghy pontoon, marching on to Laffensplain (?spelling) and a Zulu warrior. I believe part of it has mutated into a rugby song. It is not to the Engineers march tune, I believe.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Ferrara
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 12:16 PM

Yeah, Bert, I first heard about "CRS syndrome" when I was still in the hospital after my heart transplant. One of the support group members told me to expect it, most of the transplant recipients experience it. I've been thinking of making myself a t-shirt that says, "I've got CRS -- *C*an't *R*emember a Darned Thing!"

Pete M, "The Caissons Go Rolling Along" is from WWI and was widely sung by the infantry. A splendid song, it was probably published, but the guys took it up and it became popular in the same way that "Mademoiselle from Armentières" did. I don't know the history of the Marine Corps and Air Force anthems but I do know they're great, well written songs and very well known.

Vixen, (1) where is your ElderHostel going to be? and (2) I loved, loved the "SomeTimer's Disease" and "AllTheTimer's Disease" line! -- I do get an excessive number of senior moments, possibly due to the transplant, and there are times when a joke keeps it from becoming awkward. - Rita F

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Max
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 10:36 AM

Senior moments!! We call them CRS which stands for 'Can't Remember Sh**'. And they start ocurring at a much younger age than 45.
Bert. (Using Max's machine)

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Pete M
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 09:40 PM

Ferrara, no need to apologise, I wasn't offended, bemused would be nearer the mark. The thought of the armed services having thier own "theme" songs just seemed to me to be typically and idiosyncratically American. Although most forces have one or march tune associated with them, some of which may have had words set to them eg "Hearts of Oak", and "A life on the ocean Wave", for the RN and RM; I've never heard of anyone other than civilians singing them, and that only at the begining of the century.

Just don't keep going on about "senior moments" people will start thinking we are getting old, and I refuse to admit to more than 45.

Pete M

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Vixen
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 05:13 PM

Dear Ferarra,

If the Senior Moment lasts into June, you're welcome to come to the Elderhostel and sing along!!! In fact, regardless of how long the "moment" lasts, you're welcome to come sing along!!!

A friend of mine calls Senior Moments a symptom of "Sometimer's Disease", which you get before you get "AllTheTimer's Disease." I'm sure she's just a pessimist!

V

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Ferrara
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 04:34 PM

Pete M, So sorry to have offended, I know there is a generic name for the songs that I named above for the Army, Navy, etc, but was having a Senior Moment and couldn't think what it might be so I called them "Theme Songs." Actually it has turned into a Senior Week, because I still can't think for the generic name that would usually be used to refer to them although I'm fairly sure it exists.

Joe, I agree, based on the first verse of Lili Marlene, all I can remember right now, there's no reason to suppose that the song is about a prostitute. Maybe someone assumed that because they met under a lamppost outside the barracks and that was a common place for prostitutes to stand. On the other hand, the short parody of Lili Marlene given in the DT database *is* explicitly and hilariously about a prostitute.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 08:00 AM

Jerry, George Formby's song goes "Imagine me in the Maginot Line/Sitting on a mine on the Maginot Line/Sergeant says I'm doing fine..." and I can't remember any more (mercifully!). The other song goes:

CHORUS: We're Gonna Hang Out the Washing on the Siegfried Line,
Have you any dirty washing, mother dear?
We're going to hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line,

'Cause the washing day is here.
Whether the weather may be wet or fine, we'll just rub along without a care.
We're going to hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line,
If the Siegfried Line's still there!"

VERSE: Mother dear, I'm writing you from somewhere in France,
Hoping to find you well.
Sergeant says I'm doing fine, a soldier and a half,
Aagh! I've forgotten the last line! Sorry! Somebody put us out of our misery?

There was a series of wartime cartoons called "Life in the B.E.F. - popular misconceptions", which had a great picture of Tommies stringing up lines between the guns and festooning them with washing, to the puzzlement of the German soldiers.

Steve

Complete lyrics can be found here.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Pete M
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 07:28 AM

Dale, I couldn't find a date for the Dietrich recording either, so pax eh? Joe, no I can't prove it one way or the other, just passing on what I was told. Like Dale I tracked the song back to the Leip poem, but have no further info on who the subject(s) were or Leips' relationship with her/them.

Pete M

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 04:41 AM

Well, Pete, I'm not ready to believe "Lili Marlene" is about a prostitute, any more than I believe the Hitler story. I've heard the prostitute story before, but I've never heard anything to make me think it's factual. It's such a nice, sweet song. I think it's true love. Can you prove otherwise?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Tucker
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 03:57 AM

Jeez, the things you learn on these threads! Thx Dale, nice info.

Subject: Origins: Lili Marlene (Lili Marleen)
From: Dale Rose
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 02:21 AM

OK, here I am after an hour or so of research. Lili Marlene (also Lili Marleen)was written by Hans Leip as a poem in 1915. Apparently he had two friends named Lili and Marleen, and it was their names which inspired the title. It was published in a book of poetry in 1937 and was set to music by the composer Norbert Schultze in 1938. Cabaret singer Lale Andersen started singing the song soon after, and recorded it on 2 Aug 39. It made little impression until 1941, when a copy of her recording began to get airplay on a radio station for German soldiers. It was an immediate hit among the soldiers of many nations, and reportedly has since been translated into 48 languages. The Fassbinder film, Lili Marlene in 1980 is a highly fictionalized account of Lale Anderson's life, quite loosely based on her biography from the accounts I read.

Despite looking reasonably diligently, I was unable to come up with a date for Marlene Dietrich's recording, but I think you would have to assume that it was no earlier than 1941. I don't think there is any question as to the fact that her version was better known and much more frequently played in the United States, and perhaps most of the Allied countries as well, though that is just my assumption.

One thing is certain, without Lale Andersen, there almost certainly would be no Marlene Dietrich version. As to which is better or "more" definitive, I guess that is just a matter of opinion.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Pete M
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 12:26 AM

Dale, "..the defining version ..(of Lili Marlene)..is that of Lale Andersen"??? Surely you jest.

Never Heard of Marlene Dietrich?

Pete M

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Gene
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 12:06 AM

It was the Hut Sut Song...Andrew Sisters for one...

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Night Owl
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 11:09 PM

Mom, (89yrs. old & former USO Hostess during WWII) says she remembers a song called "The Hut Hut Song" playing a lot on the jukebox at the USO....said it was a fun song to sing & dance to, but doesn't remember the words.

Subject: RE: WWII songs
From: Tucker
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 08:37 PM

It appears there are good things that come from bad things...even war. Tiger, I think we are talking about two different songs and Henrik answered a question I was wondering about. "Banks of Sicily". I remember it being on the radio or sung to me vaguely, but the Chad Mitchell Trio brought it home to me somewhere around 1962.