Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Fortunato Date: 07 Feb 10 - 11:19 AM Thanks for the reminder, I've just ordered mine. I guess I'm ready to listen now. cheers chance |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Bill D Date: 07 Feb 10 - 10:54 AM won't we though? I still 'run' old non-recorded memories in my head of him from the Getaway...like the infamous "bench moving chanty". |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Janie Date: 07 Feb 10 - 10:42 AM Thanks for refreshing this thread, kat. Gave me an opportunity to go back and watch some of the videos. Won't we be missing him for a long, long time! |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 07 Feb 10 - 10:24 AM Nice to know these CDs are still available. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Date: 06 Feb 10 - 11:24 PM Just got my copy of this CD with a nice note from Natalie. It is everything you all said and more...also poignant knowing, while we listen, he isn't here anymore. My grandson loves it and started singing along on the chorus of Roller Bowler and Yangtse River Shanty. He had to go home, but I am sure he learn the others, too, at least the chorus of each. kat |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: DFP Date: 26 Oct 09 - 10:52 PM stallion, here, at least, is a list of Barry videos on YouTube; semi-collated though not edited per se: Barry Finn - Old Dollar Mamie (Prison song) FSGW Getaway 2009 Barry Finn sings "The Banks of the Callow" another link to the same recording: The Shores of the Callows "Salonika" - Barry Finn at FSGW Getaway 2008 another link to the same recording: Salonika Barry Finn - Guantanamo Bay - FSGW Getaway 2008 another link to the same recording: Guantanamo Bay Woolloomooloo Lair - Barry Finn FSGW Getaway 2008 another link to the same recording: Woolloomooloo Lair Finn & Haddie sing South Coast of Texas Rowing Shanties 1 (Finn & Haddie) (a medley of British West Indian rowing shanties; includes "Pull Away Me Boys," "Fine Time of Day," and "Hell of a Wedding") another link to the same recording: BWI Rowing Shanties Roller Bowler (Finn & Haddie) another link to the same recording: Roller Bowler Yangtze River (Finn & Haddie) another link to the same recording: Yangtze River Shanty Yangtzte River II (Finn & Haddie) |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: stallion Date: 26 Oct 09 - 05:16 AM I have a copy, what I don't have is any video clips, it might be an idea to put out a DVD of the clips, it would be good for someone to collate the contributions and edit them, and, as already been said in this thread, it would be a great learning tool for wannabe singers as well as a song bank. Pete |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: RockClimber Date: 25 Oct 09 - 11:19 PM Hello regular Mudcat people. I've just wandered into this website while hunting for Gaelic music, and I'm moved to sorrow by the loss of your friend Barry Finn although I never heard him sing or read his posts before today. I'm glad to know that he has made a CD and so many assorted field recordings. Just wanted to extend my condolences to all of you and to his family. Thank you all for keeping this wonderful community going. Eman Ramos |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Richard Atkins Date: 25 Oct 09 - 10:08 PM Good idea Janie. My video of our time with Barry and Justine is on hold at this sad time as i said before , for six months at least. However i did promice a copy of of my videos of Portsmouth Maritime to Tom which is in process. So many Pictures and videos for him to sort and i add more them! |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Peter Kasin Date: 24 Oct 09 - 12:53 PM Great idea, Janie! I have a tape somewhere oif Barry singing at a workshop at the Moby Dick 150th anniversary Festival at the park where I work, which waqs in 2001. Lani Herrmann recorded it. The sound quality is what one would expect from an audience tape recording, but, as you said, a collection oif field recordings would not be expcted to be a high fidelity project. Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Date: 23 Oct 09 - 11:59 PM THAT is a fantastic idea, Janie. I hope folks will do so. |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Janie Date: 23 Oct 09 - 10:26 PM It is hard to believe there is only this one CD. But I am betting that many people have videos or recordings of Barry singing, hopefully going back a long ways. While the quality of many of these may not be "the finest kind", as much of the music and singing of this wonderfully talented man ought to be documented and preserved as completely as possible. I wonder, for now, about a thread to which people post if they have indeed recorded Barry - in a living room, at the Getaway, a family picnic, a festival, etc. It could serve as a locator archive in the event Justine and family might decide, at some point, to authorize the replicating of these recordings all in one place. This might be a really dumb idea, but I thought I would toss it out there. It would basically be a collection of field recordings. We all know what a wonderful resource field recordings are. Janie |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Richard Atkins Date: 23 Oct 09 - 10:05 PM Claire Yes Bye bye my Rosianna was captured by me on video rest assured then. Barrys going has knocked me off the rocks but full video of his last performanances with Neil and Ken will follow later. Six months later via Barrys family at this sad time. Others advice please. |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: My guru always said Date: 23 Oct 09 - 03:29 PM Oh, and thanks for the link, Charlie & Chance! |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: My guru always said Date: 23 Oct 09 - 03:29 PM Claire, I'm sure Richard has Bye Bye my Roseanna on a video of Barry - if only we could get it onto the web *sigh* Maybe we should send a DVD of Barry to someone who knows how to put up a clip? I know Amos knows how.... |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: ClaireBear Date: 23 Oct 09 - 12:23 PM And I would love to be able to hear Barry singing "Bye Bye My Roseanna" -- without which life seems colorless -- again. That song is so definitively Barry that I can't believe it's not recorded somewhere. I keep expecting to find it on YouTube; I keep thinking if I enter just the right search terms there it'll be. Sigh. |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: JudyB Date: 23 Oct 09 - 12:10 PM If one of the clones wander by - Would it make sense to delete the word "new" from the title so folks don't think this is a new announcement? And then delete this post? I wish we could have done another CD - was looking forward to singing along on "Trinidad Run" in the car - but I am glad we do have this one. Thanks, JudyB
-Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Fortunato Date: 23 Oct 09 - 10:53 AM http://www.finnandhaddie.com Here is the link blue clicky |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 23 Oct 09 - 09:03 AM Guru- I'm so pleased you asked! On the official Finn & Haddie website there is a very tiny link under the CD which says "Buy This!": Click here for website Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: My guru always said Date: 23 Oct 09 - 05:58 AM Thanks for refeshing this! I came back from our trip with 14 CD's but kept forgetting to ask Barry for this one which I regret, of course I thought we'd have plenty of time!! Any advice on how to get a copy? |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: skarpi Date: 23 Oct 09 - 04:57 AM well I did not know that he had this cd made . all the best Skarpi |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Peter Kasin Date: 23 Oct 09 - 04:23 AM Thanks for refreshing this thread, Charley. This is a really fine CD, and it stresses the sadness, the huge hole that is left by Barry's death. There was a lot of music yet to be recorded by him, a lot of rare chanteys to bring to light, and he had just added Ken Schatz to become a trio. It is so sad, but let's be thankful that there is this wonderful CD as his legacy. Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Oct 09 - 07:51 PM For those who haven't read this thread, and scanned the lyrics of the songs that Barry and Neil sing on this CD, here it is again. This is helps explain why we miss him. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Big Mick Date: 01 Sep 07 - 11:36 PM If you are a Chantey kid, then you need to own it. It is a wonderful collection, and you will learn much from it. I expect to be doing so for quite a while. Mick |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: TRUBRIT Date: 01 Sep 07 - 08:04 PM Sorry to be repetetivw bur I rhink is a wonderful piece of work.......I can listen, and listen, and listen again ..........great job Barry and Neil |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 31 Aug 07 - 03:39 PM Mick has said it all! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,ChanteyKid Date: 31 Aug 07 - 03:13 PM Any more on this CD, I'm thinking of ordering it? |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Big Mick Date: 24 Aug 07 - 12:02 PM A really good deckhand can tie a bowline one handed. I knew that my buddy would have a good CD. As I don't do much in the way of shanties, and work songs of this type, I expected to get a damn good reference piece so that I could add a few to my repertoire. What arrogance on my part!! What I received was an incredibly enjoyable CD, and the production values were out of this world. I have had the pleasure of hearing Barry sing any number of times. This CD captures his phenomenal voicings and stylings to a tee. Whoever did the recording/mastering really knew their business when it comes to vocal music. Oft times folks that record everything from rock bands to choral groups just don't get it right when it comes to acoustic music or this type of vocal music. That is not the case here. This CD has a punch...... a force to it, that is hard to describe. When that is coupled up with the obvious talent and knowledge of the music, as well as the love of it ..... all I can say is that this is an important CD to own. And you will absolutely enjoy it. I have it in my CD player and just play it over and over. Great job, wee fella. And the best to Mr. Haddie, as well. You should be proud. Mick |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 24 Aug 07 - 11:16 AM If there are any orders for this CD from Australia, I'm prepared to do door-to-door delivery to Sydney, Melbourne, and Port Douglas this October-November. I'll already be bringing CD's for JennyO, Sandra, Margaret Walters and Danny Spooner. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: radriano Date: 22 Aug 07 - 02:18 PM refresh please! |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Rumncoke Date: 20 Aug 07 - 08:03 PM A sailor will hold the bight in his left hand......? Unless she'd left handed, of course. |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Janie Date: 20 Aug 07 - 06:58 PM Just walked in the door from work to find my copy in the mailbox. Listening as I type. Barry & Neil, what a treasure this CD is. I'll be listening to this one often and for a long time. Janie |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Barry Finn Date: 18 Aug 07 - 01:51 AM Hi Mike & thanks for your kind words, hope your sail was tall & exciting, will want to hear about it. Hopefully we can get together again some time. Thanks Barry |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Mike O'Leary-Johns Date: 17 Aug 07 - 02:03 PM Barry ; received the CD just before I headed for saltburn Festival. Played it as soon as I got back. ABSO-BLOODY-LUTELY WONDERFULL! Great singing[from you both]; and as others have commented.............many of the songs are New To me. Definately NOT : just another batch of Seafaring Songs and Shanties. But an important contribution to the genre. WELL DONE. On a more personal note ... Brings back many happy memories of meeting and sharing some songs at the YTB and at Portsmouth Festival. LONG MAY YOU SHAKE THE PLASTER FROM THE WALLS. But people should also have a chance of hearing you sing like you did on the Whaler in Mystic.The song you wrote yourself.That WAS magic. All the best Barry , I will Email you shortly ; Mike. |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Bert Date: 16 Aug 07 - 11:56 PM Just a little yarn as an excuse to refresh this thread. Re: You cannot tie a bowline Of course every school kids can tie a bowline, so what does this mean? Well a sailor ties a bowline quite differently to a landlubber. A landlubber will twist a loop into the rope, poke the end through, wrap it 'round the back and poke it back through the loop. Whereas a sailor will hold the bight in his left hand, lay the (bitter) end across it and twist the loop around the rope in one movement. Then all he has to do is wrap the end 'round and back through the loop. |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 15 Aug 07 - 08:29 AM Barry- "The Captain lost his command as a result & we got invited to sing aboard the USS Constitution, highly irregular." It sounds as if there might be more to this story, and a song as well. Was there a court martial, with the ritual breaking of his sword? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: curmudgeon Date: 14 Aug 07 - 08:57 PM You can also come to The Portsmouth Maritime Folk Festival , hear Barry and Neil live, AND buy several CDs as gifts - Tom |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Barry Finn Date: 14 Aug 07 - 08:12 PM Funny Richard, I was gonna suggest buying 2 & playing them at the same time. Hope you're having fun with it Leo, they are hard to open aren't they. The easy way is to slice down the from top hinge to bottom hinge with a thumb nail, release the bottom hinge & flip the CD face cover up, presto, unwrapped Don't listen to Charlie, the CD self destructs his way. Hi Riggy, glad you're enjoy it. The backround is the superstructure of the the Navy's heavy cruiser the USS Salem. We were hired to be roving performers, singing on deck to a reunion crew during the July 4th Tall Ships parade in Boston Harbor. The Captain lost his command as a result & we got invited to sing aboard the USS Constitution, highly irregular. Hope everybody else who's got one is enjoying, you can also post your thoughts here too. Barry |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: radriano Date: 14 Aug 07 - 06:00 PM MMario, Play the cd louder and it sounds just like Barry! |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:19 PM MMario- We had to set the mics ten feet from Barry or he would have crashed the system! Glad to hear you enjoyed what you could hear. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: MMario Date: 14 Aug 07 - 09:21 AM Finally managed to get the bloody CD open - and played it; and played it; and played it. hmmmmm; Barry sounds a little more "subdued" then I am used to - but other than that; FANTASMAGORICAL!!!! which is what I expected. |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: RiGGy Date: 14 Aug 07 - 12:51 AM Hey Barry GOOD job !! I like it a LOT. Is that a digital rendering of the EastCoast on the cover behind you ? Thanks for being SO Barry alla time. Riggy |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 13 Aug 07 - 09:05 AM MMario- The instructions for opening are embedded in the title: "FATHOM THIS!" You simply soak the CD in a bucket of salt water for a week or so. Alternatively, there is the oxyacetylene torch method, followed up with the "jaws of life." Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: MMario Date: 13 Aug 07 - 08:50 AM got mine! having problems getting it OPEN! (Well packed and sealed!) But hope to listen to it today. |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Peter Kasin Date: 13 Aug 07 - 04:25 AM Refresh |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Date: 12 Aug 07 - 01:15 AM Got mine! Thanks, Barry. My fav., so far, is Yangste River Shanty, BUT I haven't listened to all of it, yet. I will be listening several times tomorrow as we will be home....cleaning....arrghhh. Maybe the rhythm of the songs will help us whistle while we work! Love that accent, Barry.*bg* Sounds wonderful, so far! |
Subject: Lyr Add: COAL BLACK ROSE From: Charley Noble Date: 11 Aug 07 - 10:39 AM Hah! I did some additional on-line research on "Coal Black Rose" and the sea shanty appears to have been derived from an 1820's early minstrel song. Here's what I found: Notes on Minstrel Song Origins of Coal Black Rose These notes are taken from a preview of a book partially available on-line; there is a reference to sheet music but the reference is not in the preview. From America's Musical Life: A History, by Richard Crawford, published by W. W. Norton & Co., © 2001, pp. 201-202 "Coal Black Rose" a song from the 1820's, depicts a black romance that disintegrates into deceit and violence. The song is sung by Sambo who is wooing the heroine: Lubly Rosa, Samo cum, Don't you hear de Banjo – tum, tum, tum; Lubly Rosa, Sambo cum, Don't you hear de Banjo – tum, tum, tum; Oh Rose, de coal black Rose, I wish I may be cortch'd if I don't lub Rose, Oh Rose, de coal black Rose! When Sambo shows up unexpectedly at Rose's cabin, she asks him to wait outside in the cold while she builds a fire. Then she lets him in. The two sit warming themselves until Sambo spots Cuffee, a rival suitor, trying to hide in the dark room's corner. And during the fight that follows, he changes his song's refrain: Oh Rose, take care Rose! I wish I may be burnt if I don't hate Rose, Oh Rose, you blacka snake Rose! Further note: "cortch'd" may be dialect for "scorched" given the above reference to "burnt." Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Crane Driver Date: 10 Aug 07 - 06:54 PM Yes, it's here. Looks very impressive. We're off work next week, so we can take the time to REALLY listen to it. Looking forward to it. Andrew & Carole |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Date: 10 Aug 07 - 04:56 PM Barry, hope you've received my check by now, unless they've reinstated the Pony Express, though I've not heard of such!**bg** I cannot wait to hear this cd! |
Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Aug 07 - 04:33 PM Here's a mini review of one of my favorite songs from this CD (full lyrics above): Barry's Notes- Neil got this double pull halyard shanty from Tommy O'Sullivan while recording at sea on the Unicorn back in the early 80's. It was collected by both Bullen & Hugill, who says it's a pure "Negro ditty". Coal Black Rose Oh, me Rosie, coal black rose, Don't ye hear the banjo Ping-a-pong-a-pong? Ch: On, me Rosie, Coal Black Rose! I'd run across a version of this song in SHANTIES OF THE SEVEN SEA by Stan Hugill but it didn't come to life until Neil led it at the recording session (I was doing a very fresh harmony). It's full of dynamic energy and yet it's a work song for rapidly hauling up a jib or other light sail. Neil's timing and accent is perfect and when we were doing the song one lost all sense of time, and place! How Neil avoided getting tangled up in his rapid-paced delivery of tongue-twisting words is another miracle. The song probably can be tracked back to the minstral hall but the West Indies shanty singers certainly put it to work. I believe there is an old thread about this song. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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