BS: They got plenty o' nothin

Subject: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 10:35 AM

huge hole in the Universe

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:02 AM

Mind-boggling!

Subject: !
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:25 AM

My money says that's where the "big bang" actually happened...*grin*...when you blow up a bunch of stuff, it tends to leave a hole where it happened...

See? theories are easy!

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:29 AM

The discovery caught astronomers by surprise.

Can't quite explain why, but I find that just hysterical.

And--

It's a relief to know scientists can still feel surprise in our know-everything culture!

I think surprisability must be a healthy sign that one is continuing one's progress, smart'ards.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:31 AM

So Bill, does that mean that god is a big hole in the universe?

Stuff like this makes me angry that I won't live to see it all explained. SIGH!

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:37 AM

Maybe all it means is that God lit the firecracker...I can't see anyway to ever 'decide' that, no matter how long I live. All we can do is measure what 'is'...guesses about original 'cause' are shots in the dark.

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:39 AM

SINSULL nails it in one. Can't wait to see Bill's reply. 'There IS no God, but there's nothing in the hole, so do they equate? Or..... not? If so..... If not.......'

Oughtta be fun wrapping the brain around that one!

Think I'll try it myself!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:43 AM

Maybe all it means is that God lit the firecracker...

Old theology.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:46 AM

"old theology"

so is Genesis....we could flip a coin...

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:51 AM

If this universe is like a Klien bottle, maybe this is where the neck joins the bottle.

It might also have been ground zero of a lost civilization that tested the first & last dark energy bomb (gravity repellent extreme explosive device) which was briefly called the GREED bomb.

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:57 AM

Hey...I like the Klein bottle idea!

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 03:15 PM

The map of the universe has about 3 large areas of overwhelming nothingness while the solid matter is grouped in a rather rough stick figure of a man.

The nothingness is between the arms and legs and one between the legs.

When you tilt the image however, the stick figure of a man sort of dissipates just as the shape of the constellations change with different points of view.

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 09:26 AM

Interesting article, Bill D. Thanks for posting.

I've been ruminating lately on how patches of nothingness can form and endure. That's because I have read two books on severe tornadoes. It baffles me how a tornado, which is a moving column of extremely low pressure surrounded by whirling winds, can form and travel.

Now in space we see a huge area of emptiness which ought not to be there.

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 11:48 AM

Here is how I picture a plausible reason for the voids:

The creation of this universe is now thought to be the outgrowth of a collision of two 'branes' or 'universes' occupying a similar if not the same space time and space dimensions. This is not the big bang theory of a sigularity exploding but rather a collision of things like wrinkled moving sheets in the wind. The collision will happened at different regions at different times as each wrinkle and fold collide over a period of time, speed and different dimensions.

Seemiongly seperate areas of matter and anti matter would arise. Areas of dark matter and energy with opposite gravity characteristics may also arise. Einstein showed that an anti gravity component to the universe ought to exist (then changed his mind uch to his chagrin later in life)

This would allow for slightly different conditions to form different kinds of matter and energy in distinctly different areas.
IF an area of dark energy ((with the attribute of a gravity that pushed instead of pulled)) was predominant in one area it would repel itself from that area and move out pushing other material along with it.

poof - large areas of nothingness are left behind as the original dark energy moved away from is epicenter billions of years ago.

Here is the neat part to my hypothesis ***

As the dark mater moved out farther the universe as a whole will begin to accelerate outward faster and faster...

The universe is accelerating in its expansion!

We used to speak of a great attractor pulling huge clusters of galaxies but we might now more accurately say that they are being pushed by the great repeller.

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 10:32 PM

Hey, I'm serious

oh well thats the problem with being a satarist much of the time.

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 11:13 PM

Big hole eh?

Maybe that's where my socks go.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: They got plenty o' nothin
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 07 - 03:03 PM

If you look southwest of Orion great billion light year void would be about 40 full moons across - if you could see it, which you can't.

The microwave radiation footprint in the universe has a mega pattern to it as well as the stick figure of matter pattern.
Cosmologists call it the Axis of Evil because they don;t know what causes this clover leaf like pattern in the microwave radiation signature of this universe.