BS: As Niobrara goes...

Subject: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 02:39 PM

I had to smile at this one. I spent a lot of time organizing ranchers against the MX missile back in the day in Niobrara County, Wyoming. Beautiful country, beautiful people.

So, great results to the Dem contest there have been announced--it's a damn draw in Niobrara: 10 for Clinton, 10 for Obama.

Yee-ha!

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 04:22 PM

And I want you to know, this was such an unexpectedly large turn out in Niobrara County, they had to bring chairs in from the bar, so everyone would have a place to set.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 04:30 PM

My sister was thrilled to meet and listen to, as well as get an autograph from Hillary Clinton, yesterday. It is extraordinary that any national election Dems even come to WY to campaign...it has been so GOP for so many years, but even WY is important to them this time. I have to say there are more of the old-fashioned, mind-your-own-business Republicans there than you'd thinkg. They always turn out to protect a woman's right to choose. When I was growing up there it was mostly Democrats.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 04:33 PM

No results yet that I've heard for Goshen County which is BIG Republican territory. Bloody minded, tho, these Wyomingites. Don't try to tell US what to do.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 04:58 PM

That is so right katlaughing, about the whole Dem/Repub thing there. West River, SD is like that too.

Some of our allies in the fight to hold back uranium mining in the area there included an occasional stampede of John Birchers, and a few Posse Comitatus types now and again.

The thing is, in the wild wide open, everyone relies on one another to survive, and families are well known in their respective communities.

In rural areas, life is never as simple as Dem/Repub, which is the least of it, unless you are running for office.

It is pretty cool your sister met Hillary. When I worked and lived in West River, I met the most fascinating people I've ever met, from Sri Lankan Buddhist monks to the Archbishop of Canterbury, to Rear Admiral Eugene J. Carroll to No Nukes rock stars like Helen Caldicott.

Pretty amazing.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 05:17 PM

I am talking to my sisters right now. In Casper, people who waited in line for over seven hours to see Hillary, yesterday, AND they didn't have enough room in the gymnasium and had to turn folks away, in Wyoming!! Amazing!

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 05:37 PM

Interesting.........There could be some tales told in what happens................and

"Some of our allies in the fight to hold back uranium mining in the area there included an occasional stampede of John Birchers, and a few Posse Comitatus types now and again."

Yep......Not really so surprising when you think of the liberal-conservative line is really a circle. Scratch an ultra-conservative and you find a super radical...and vice versa. There is often not a hair's breadth between them. Two camps who arrived in almost exactly the same place in totally different ways. Not really so strange a bedfellow as it might seem.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 05:43 PM

Except, they always seem strange bedfellows to the moderate centrists...

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 05:47 PM

Ain't that the truth Spaw. I saw that over and over in WY. One of the bigger ironies that struck us when I was working on human rights was some members of the AME church didn't want any members of the lesbigay groups to march in the MLK parade one year. Esp. ironic as many of the people who got the parade to happen at all were of the lesbigay org.

Sorcha is right, too, DON'T tell a Wyomingite what to do!

I need to hear and see Hillary in person. After talking with my sisters, I really wish I had been there. It sounds as though it was a fantastic time and Hillary had people electrified and, was very specific with her plans. It sounds as though it was tremendous and BOTH of my sisters got her autograph. Just the historical significance of that, alone, gets me all teary-eyed.

GG, the last time I lived up there, I was very involved in human rights. We learned a lot about and shared a lot about the posse comitaus types who lived there, as well as others. It was a long eight years for those of us who worked on educating and legislating for human rights.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Peace
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 07:46 PM

CHEYENNE, Wyo. — Senator Barack Obama continued his string of victories in caucus states on Saturday, beating Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in Wyoming by a wide margin.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Peace
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 07:50 PM

"As Niobrara goes..."

Well, now the election is settled . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Peace
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 07:54 PM

GG,

All this stuff don't really amount to a hill o' beans. There have been deals made at conventions before, and I expect there will be a few made at these--well, specifically the Dem Con. I don't think McCain has to make any.

I think Obama will be better able to defeat McCain. IMO, there's too much 'similarity' between Hillary and McCain. I trust Americans will see that.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:11 PM

My opening posts were meant to be funny, Peace, and not taken literally or terribly seriously. A bit of comic relief. A little something to help us all remember a fool and his money are soon elected.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Peace
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:15 PM

I am aware of that. OK?

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Peace
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:16 PM

Lest you think you are the only poster on the 'cat with a sense of humour, MY posts here were meant to be funny also. Have a nice fucking day!

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:24 PM

It's much better when posts which are meant to be funny actually succeed in being funny...

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:45 PM

Some 8500 people voted in the Demo caucus. Over 500,000 people in the state. About 2%. The Republican caucus was closed so no vote totals.

I can't see McCain having any problems winning Wyoming.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Peace
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:46 PM

That's just numbers, Q.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:56 PM

Why McGrath, you've all the clever retorts of a suburban intellect!

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:57 PM

Is that a joke Kevin?

(Just Joking.........maybe)

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 09:20 PM

We have 'over 500,000 people' now? Wow......wonders never cease.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 09:24 PM

It's numbers that count. In the last one in Wyoming, Bush carried by more than 2 to 1. McCain won't do that well, but 55% would be good enough. I don't think there will be any big swings in the West.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 09:31 PM

Listen up. Those numbers I quoted for Niobrara are the REAL numbers reported in a Reuters article when I came online today. They were calling Niobrara a draw at like, 1:00 this afternoon.


For the obvious reasons, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 09:53 PM

Oh, I believe YOU.....but, 500,000? REALLY?

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 11:40 PM

Including coyotes and prairie dogs.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 09:14 AM

Oh, thank you Q, that makes me feel so much better. I wasn't coping well with knowing I live in such a crowded state!

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 01:07 PM

Not to worry. The census shows that Niobrara County lost 5% of its population. Moving out to the bright lights of the big cities (like Casper).

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 06:18 PM

Nah. They moved underground.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 06:20 PM

Uh.....Q....Casper IS in Niobrara County.....

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:49 PM

Retorts

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:30 PM

Sorcha? Casper is in NATRONA county.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:34 PM

LOLOLOLOh, Kat....boy, talk about foot in mouf! Well, ONE a' them N counties anyway! Oh my.....that is too FUNNY!

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:35 PM

SO sorry, Q...MY very very bad. LUSK is in Niobrara county....oh dear...it will take YEARS to live this one down! If I ever do.

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:42 PM

When did they move Casper from Natrona County?

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:46 PM

Oh, doncha know it was really LUST? Well, that's what the fellers thought when they got there. Mother Feather Feather Legs, or whatever the Madam's name was, did not abuse them of the notion.:-)

LOL...Sorcha!

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:58 PM

OK, after all, I wasn't born here. Big difference between a Native and a Move In ya know.....oh dear oh dear oh dear.....

Subject: RE: BS: As Niobrara goes...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 09:26 PM

Only about a 1/4 of the county population has kids. It's an old timers sorta ranching place with nobody per square mile of range. It's very cool.

We used to call it (tongue in cheek) Red Cloud Country.

Now it is the Energy Armpit of the Nation.

Lusk is pretty much due west of Chadron, as the crow flies. We used to go south through Custer and Edgemont to go on our organizing visits to area ranchers. Back then, the coal and gas industry was just getting going. We'd run up and down 85 from Lusk to Newcastle to Four Corners and the Powder River Basin country where we had quite a few allies among the cowboys and Indians.

We've been fighting Cheney & Co. for a LONG time.