Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 03:45 PM

Don Nichols just told me this story. For years Dick used to say that he hoped to live to a really old age and be found by collectors. And that he looked forward to hearing them say, "I know his voice isn't much now, but I'll bet he was something back in the day."

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jun 08 - 10:34 PM

Well... **official disclaimer**

I believe that is the first time in 'about' 18 years I have drunk a beer of 'that sort'. It was sitting in the back of my downstairs beverage 'fridge, having been left by someone at some event, with the assumption that Dick would come by and drink it eventually.

He couldn't, so I, in remembrance of Dick's frugality, did the duty. I also had an Amstel light, but there IS a limit to sentimentality.

And thanks to Vince for the great pictures.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 15 Jun 08 - 10:11 PM

LOL Vince! As the masochist who volunteered to take on the problem of dealing with Dick's belongings, I certainly grinned to see your good advice.

BTW our family's favorite photo from last night is this one

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 15 Jun 08 - 09:38 PM

I've prepared a few pages from the pix from last night's memorial celebration for "The Merry Curmudgeon" as Gail Snyder called him.

• Pix from the Celebration
• Photos of Dick doing what he loved to do
• Bill D's page of Dick's Family Photos
• Ferrara captioned some of the pix that I couldn't

Thanks to all of the folks who stood up and took charge of a harried situation.
Get your will in order!

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Janie
Date: 15 Jun 08 - 09:03 PM

Thanks for telling us about it, Rita. As you said, sounds like Dick would have been well pleased.

Janie

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Ferrara
Date: 15 Jun 08 - 08:07 PM

Janie and Dan, thank you for the kind words.

Last night's memorial evening was wonderful. The room looked great.   The food was good. Vince and Andrew set up a fine looking table with three photo boards. I added 11 pages of comments and stories about Dick from this thread and a number of people seemed to be reading them all the way through.

The singing and sharing were just what one hopes for, from Bill D's rendition of "The Good Boy [Loved But Unrespected]" to Sondra Wallace's singing of "Lonesome Robin" to Gail Snyder's hilariously appropriate song, "You Can't Keep Me From Singing." Among many other highlights were Barry Schlesinger singing "The Ballad of Tom Joad," which Dick used to sing, Kathie Mack bringing the whole room alive with harmony on "Who Will Sing For Me," and several songs from Dick's former music group, The Cathedral Avenue Cacaphony.

A splendid send-off. Dick would have been so pleased.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 14 Jun 08 - 03:57 PM

Rita, you are one of the world's great people.

Warmly,
Dan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 14 Jun 08 - 02:53 PM

I've just printed off many of the wonderful comments from this thread, for folks to read this evening at Dick's memorial service/ potluck/sing-around.

Thought I'd report on the status of Dick's belongings. There are some amazing legal hurdles to be passed. Dick's sister, Lynne, has sent consent papers for me to become Personal Representative for Dick's estate. But there is a Catch-22. In order to become Personal Representative, I need to submit proof of Dick's assets including bank statements, the title to his car, paycheck stub for his last paycheck, and so forth. BUT. In order to get any of that, I need papers saying I'm legally entitled to see them.

So on the advice of the very helpful lady at the Register of Wills, I have submitted a petition to become Special Administrator for Dick's estate. This is different from Personal Representative.... The judge will rule on it some time this week.

To be continued....

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Janie
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 12:46 AM

Mick, I am so grateful for your ability to express what to me is wordless.

Rita, you are a rare gem.

Janie

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 11:48 PM

That's a great eulogy, Mick.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 02:14 PM

Feel free to, Bill.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 02:08 PM

Thanks, Mick....I may just read a bit of that eloquent tribute at the memorial Sat.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 01:57 PM

Rita, the pictures are such a joy. They cause one to think on the importance of reflection, instead of judgement, on the life and circumstances of one's existence. As I viewed pictures of this man of whom I have known for such a short time, I found myself reflecting on him at every stage of his life. From the pudgy, adorable little boy, to the lean young man in the ROTC uniform, to the man that I got a kick out of but who drove me crazy in the way he took care of those pipes and sang off key .... all these are the ingredients of the marvelous Mulligan stew that is, finally, a person's life. I use the term "Mulligan's stew" because it is never the same for each person. There is so much that goes into the broth of every single one of us, that judgement serves no purpose, and is something best left to the eternals, or barring that, the wind. What is apparent in all these posts is that Dick lived a life that, when ended, caused many people to realize how much they would miss him. What is apparent is that there is family that is saddened at his gettin' away, and will miss him. His life had worth, and we are all a bit better for his having been in it. There is complexity in his living, and it flavored all of our stews.

In the last three weeks, since Utah died, I have lost an Aunt, Uncle, and two cousins. In reflecting on Dick's life while reading this thread, I came to think of the differences of when folks leave, and that brought me to think of these two relatives, from the two sides of my family. One lived a life that was characterized by passing through, loving family to be sure, but never reaching out. At the end there was no fanfare, not even a funeral, some good thoughts/memories from family members, but the realization that when a few folks die, so will those memories. The other lived a life of reaching out, working and celebrating things important in her life, and taking care to pay attention to those around her in a non-judgemental way. At the wake, there were folks from all walks of life, and all parts of her life, who talked, told stories, and grieved the loss while celebrating the life. There was poetry written, a spoken declaration of love from a "special" cousin who is learning impaired, but wiser than most of us in her ability to discern authenticate caring and love, I did a song for her, and everyone spoke of the impact this quiet, yet persistent woman had on their lives. Each of these two lived a life, loved, and left. But one left a lasting legacy on the lives touched, one that will be felt for generations, and one walked through, left a few memories, and was gone with the passing of time.

So it is with Dick. I think of the broth he brewed, and I realize that for all that went into his stew, he made an impact. I am not sure who or what put the unwanted spices in, but I do know this. Hidden within those spices lies an aftertaste that makes you realize later how much he was appreciated, and how the individuals whom he interacted with will remember him fondly. Even as I write this, I find myself grinning at the memory of he and I as I (in a very exasperated way) would rant about the leaks in the bellows, and joints, and bag of those pipes. And I smile because he would just look down at them with that little smile and (despite my ranting) say, "maybe if I use some beeswax or glue........". I just laughed out loud at the memory.

Good man, ya are, Dick Rodgers. May God be good to you. You decorated a small part of many rooms, and those who walk those rooms will be better for your presence in them.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 12:48 PM

Just a reminder, that there is a memorial evening at the Washington Ethical Society this Saturday, from 6 pm until 11 I think. It's potluck, and there will be reminiscing and singing and sharing.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 01:11 PM

Dick's sister Lynne sent quite a few photos and documents from Dick's childhood. They're pretty neat. I've set up a

Photo Page

because there are so many of them.

Lynne and I are working hard to cope with the bureaucratic obstacles to closing Dick's estate. Will keep you informed.

Rita

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:16 PM

I happened on the news of Dick's passing by seeing the Memorial Sing listed in the FSGW calendar. A sad shock.

I never knew till reading these postings today that Dick was a dancer, and a good one. I'm sorry I never had the chance to dance with him.

I remember most clearly two things- last year at the Washington Folk Festival, in the Grove, finally getting to read all the cartoons on his hurdy gurdy case, and last summer talking to him at the Common Ground festival. One of the FSGW "family" was in the hospital, he informed me that day, and we talked for quite awhile about all the people. He had such affection for everybody. He was a common thread, himself.

If you ever went to an Open Sing in a new location, and you weren't sure where the house was, you just looked on the street for his distinctive car, which was always already there, and you knew you were in the right place.

Linda

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 05 Jun 08 - 01:07 PM

Rita Ferrara has more to post, but she's been without electricity or Internet contact since the severe storms that passed through our region yesterday. They've restored her electricity today (which is good, because the air conditioning is needed on a day like today), but she's still awaiting the Internet connection. Stay tuned.

--posted for Rita by Charlie Baum, who has electricity and Internet in the office, but whose home is still in the dark

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 04 Jun 08 - 02:57 PM

Refresh

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 03 Jun 08 - 02:01 PM

I just realized you can enlarge the photo by clicking on it.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 03 Jun 08 - 01:54 PM

The more I read that obituary, the more I like it. Thank you Rita, and thanks to Kathie Mack for doing so much for Dick.

Dan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 03 Jun 08 - 01:08 PM

Lynne wrote me a very, very nice letter. She will send a letter authorizing me to handle Dick's estate and has generously given me instructions for keeping Dick's instruments, and any proceeds from the estate, in the folk community. I'll keep people informed but we are in the early stages yet.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,I am Dick's sister, Lynne
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 11:23 PM

I just returned from a trip without internet access and have been very touched to read all these wonderful memories of Dick. He and I were never close after our father died when I was 9 and Dick was 14, and I completely lost touch with him about 15 years ago. My Christmas card to him was returned and he never contacted me again.

Thanks to our cousin Bill, I have been in touch with Rita Ferarra and have discussed what we can do to preserve Dick's musical instruments and memorabilia. I am sure that she will keep you all informed.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Nancy King
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 09:47 PM

Oh Janie, what a very nice complement. You sure you don't want to move up here to Washington? You'd fit right in with FSGW...

Nancy

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Susan A-R
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 09:35 PM

I'll always remember my delight at "the Gol Darned Wheel" heard at Old Songs a number of years ago. We'll have to sing one for him there as well. He was definitely a regular at the Dutch Barn sings.

I also remember the sherry (or was it port, or some other fortified wine??)

And then there was being a band member on "the Colorado Trail" at the Getaway a few years back (Ramblewood) Ron Davies, Dick Greenhouse and I got "enthused" into being back up. I believe a little arm twisting was involved as well. Makes me smile to remember it.

I'll miss him.

Susan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Janie
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 08:57 PM

Thank you to Vince for posting the link to that article, to Kathy for writing it, and to all the rest of you who knew him so much better than many of us for sharing your affection, stories, a bit of history and lore regarding Dick.

From my very first Getaway, I have always valued and appreciated the obvious valuing of "folks" reflected by FSGW members. You have not lost sight of who folk music, regardless of how it is defined, represents. That is well reflected in posts to this thread.

Thank all of you for sharing your memories and reflections. and thank you Dick, for being so memorable.

Janie

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 08:28 PM

Many, many thanks to Andrew Teter, for suggesting that the Post might print a news obituary; to Kathie Mack for researching Dick's life, writing the draft article, and interesting the Post in publishing it; and to all of Dick's friends, including Dottie Hurley, Andy Teter, Charlie Baum, Vince (Wincing Devil), Jennifer Woods & Bob Clayton, Peter and Laura Sailer, Bob Hitchcock, Bill D who supplied the photograph, and many others who contributed biographical facts and suggestions for the obituary.

The Post did a fair amount of editing, but it is Kathie's wit that shines through. We tried to contact anyone on the thread who was quoted directly but I guess we missed a couple....

Anyway this article was a labor of love on the part of many, many people.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Nancy King
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 12:48 PM

Dan, I believe Kathie Mack actually wrote it, obviously drawing from some of the posts on this thread, and submitted it to the Post, which then may have done some editing.

The obit and picture were quite prominently placed -- I think Dick would have felt it a bit of vindication for all the teasing we gave him over the years.

It was really quite odd not to have him at the Washington Folk Festival. I kept expecting to run into him around every corner. The Festival was great, as usual, but there was something missing...

Nancy

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 11:16 AM

I was a little surprised to see elements from this thread quoted in it - including something he said to me at a private party. Does the Washington Post read Mudcat?

I was wondering if perhaps one of their reporters saw the display at the Washington Folk Festival and decided to make an article out of it.

Dan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Fortunato
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 11:12 AM

The Obituary in the Washington Post this morning was without a doubt the first time I've found wit and humor in an obit. It recalled the man and his pursuits quite vividly, and replaced the usual maudlin prose with clarity and respectful honesty.

Well done.

chance

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: GUEST,Bill Jenkins
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 08:51 AM

I met Dick when I worked at the House of Musical Traditions in 1982 and was living above the store. He became my realtor (And was a good one)due to our interest in obscure musical instruments(we didn't think they were obscure), and when Takoma Park became evidently out of reach financially even then for a musician, he suggested Mt. Rainier, where he found a house that I've been in since. We exchanged knowing glances when I was onstage or he was wandering at festivals. I am very sorry to be out of town for his celebration.I would make some rude noises in his honor.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 08:21 AM

An obituary news article about Dick Rodgers appears in today's (Monday June 2) issue of the Washington Post.
It can also be found on the Washington Post web page

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 30 May 08 - 09:34 AM

Dick's Dodge Dart fell apart, like the cop car the Blues Brothers stole. KER-FLUUMP. AndyT drove him around to get a "new" one.

};-(

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 30 May 08 - 12:06 AM

Sad news indeed. Dick was one of those people who, as the relative newcomer to the Getaway that I am, just stood out. Tall, lanky, angular, and with a habit of peering myopically at you that enhanced the impression of a rather friendly old stork. I enjoyed very much the comical old tunes that I heard him perform, tunes that started out with his audience looking on rather uncomfortably until the song resolved itself into something that was both warm and funny, at which everyone laughed while Dick sang and sawed away at his instrument.
I asked Dick about the hurdy-gurdy, and he was delighted to describe its function to me, pointing out all of the key parts, many of which appeared to be various objects of household hardware, bent, taped, and harnessed to Dick's musical will.
In a world where so many folks are happy to fly under the radar, I had the impression that Dick had no appetite for that sort of anonymity. I'm certainly glad that, even if it was just the last act, I caught part of the show.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 May 08 - 11:24 PM

What was Dick's car? - a Dodge Dart, or something similar, I think, from the 1970's. Am I right?

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Ferrara
Date: 29 May 08 - 10:48 PM

Marianne, we are very glad to hear from his family. We didn't know how to locate anyone until one of his cousins e-mailed the president of the Folklore Society, Charlie Baum.

Rita Ferrara

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 28 May 08 - 09:02 PM

I've set up a website in Dick's Memory with pix from The Royal Mile Chantey Sings and a few Getaways: Clickez Vous Ici

Kathie Mack and I just finished up the Photo Boards for his memorial service. I'm getting far to experienced at putting pictures on foam board.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,Marianne Oaks
Date: 28 May 08 - 04:37 PM

I was Dick's first cousin. I haven't seen him in around fifty years. I remember him as someone with great enthusiasm, but a little short on the practical side of living.
I am very happy to see that he had so many friends who enjoyed being with him.
Rest in peace, Dick.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 26 May 08 - 03:11 PM

You know, Dick managed his recent years very well if you think about what his priorities were. He had some income from Social Security and some from his job, and in spite of constant car troubles, etc, he managed to attend as many musical activities as he could squeeze in, including the Southern Maryland Celtic Festival, the Royal Mile shantey sings, Old Songs, of course the Getaway, and i-dont-know-how-many other events. In recent years he had access to a computer at his apartment complex; prior to that, he would phone Bill and ask him to get details on upcoming festivals.

His musical abilities deteriorated -- yes, they did -- due to deafness, and he was maddening because he wouldn't accept or acknowledge his limitations. But his singing improved after he got a decent hearing aid, which is why, I guess, I felt he was getting better -- sometimes -- at the Open Sings.

A few times at Open Sings, usually after a ballad, Dick would tell me I had done a very good job on a song. I felt like I that was high praise indeed. (Rare praise, too.... Encouraging comments weren't Dick's style for the most part, he was likelier to offer a boisterous comment on your song's history or lack of authenticity or some such thing as soon as the last note sounded.)

RF

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 26 May 08 - 01:01 AM

Dick Rodgers

"...Loved, but unrespected."

RIP

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 25 May 08 - 09:29 PM

Very nice. Thanks for the link.

Dani

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Bill D
Date: 25 May 08 - 11:32 AM

It's not easy finding the listing in the Post, but here it is

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RODGERS RICHARD L. RODGERS (Age 70) Folklorist and Musician On May 6, 2008 of Laurel, MD. First member of the Folklore Society of Greater Washington, serving in various board positions since 1964. A familiar presence at folk concerts and festivals, Dick Rodgers played several instruments, including a hurdy-gurdy he built. A memorial potluck supper, with shared remembrances and singing, will be held on Saturday, June 14, 6 p.m. at the Washington Ethical Society, 7750 16th St, NW, Washington, DC.

Published in The Washington Post on 5/25/2008.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 May 08 - 10:08 AM

Just had a wonderful vision of Dick running into Utah Phillips and cranking his hurdy-gurdy to the "Goodnight Loving Trail". We'll leave it to Rick Fielding to sort them all out.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Ferrara
Date: 24 May 08 - 11:17 PM

The Washington Post will publish a notice about Dick's death on Sunday, May 25 (tomorrow). It includes an announcement about the memorial supper and sing. It will also be in their "legacy" section on line. Can anyone add a link?

Fortunato, Vince is making up a photo board of his photos for the WFF. I'll e-mail your photo to him, and if time permits I will also make one from the various photos Bill and Darriel have taken, and include yours as well as one from Janie Endres from the Getaway.

Rita F

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Fortunato
Date: 23 May 08 - 08:03 AM

I have emailed a photo of Dick at the last PreGetaway Singaround to Ferrara, but perhaps someone else is collecting these, please let me know by PM and I'll send it there.

chance

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 19 May 08 - 06:59 PM

Kathie Mack has written a really nice news obituary to submit to the Washington Post. We'll post it here once we get permission from a few people who are quoted in the article. I'll send PM's to the relevant people. (I'm not sure we need permission, but we do want it so that no one will be made uncomfortable by having their words published -- or at least attributed to them -- without their knowledge.


And, Dan, that last post is wonderful. Pure Dick Rodgers.

Rita

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 18 May 08 - 10:48 PM

I had recalled a letter Dick wrote to Sing Out! back in the 90s. Sure enough, there it was, Vol. 35, # 2, in 1990. In his rejection of the term "Folk Nazi" bandied about at that time for the purists amongst us, I think Dick has written his own epitaph.

Below is the letter in its entirety.

-Dan


Silver Spring, MD

I totally reject the term "Folk Nazi." Curmudgeon? Yes, accepted. I'm also the Chief Grump of the FSGW's political process (my fellow founding fathers, Hickerson, Wallace and Eberhart, have abandoned that aspect). I attend some board meetings to blast the wheel-reinventors, and to let those currently entrusted with power know they're being watched.

Contemporary performers do seem to lack historical connection and perspective. We aging folkies had Jack Elliot, Jean Redpath and, yes, the Clancy Brothers among the boomers to ease us into traditionalism along with good performance skills - Michael Cooney is an outstanding product of that "easement" and has become a true philosopher of folksong performance; he hits the head of every nail! Alas, I sense a fading of the breed.

The teeth grinder of the folk boom was the young thing (a few _were_ sweet) who approached the microphone to say, "I don't know anything about this song." Although I never shouted it in a coffeehouse, I did editorialize (Washington Folk Strums, '64-'67) that they damned well _ought_ to know something about a song before singing it. (I seem to remember Baez doing that; maybe it wasn't her).

Today's teeth grinders for me are the ones who don't know traditional songs in traditional versions, or even Burl Ives' versions! I can understand how some of them might believe that ballad singing began with Steeleye Span, but I don't have to tolerate it. Furthermore, they can research so much more easily than we could in the late fifties and early sixties, I find their sloth incredible.

I find very few new Ian Robbs and Michael Cooneys out there. There are some fine young instrumentalists (Mick Moloney has a gift for finding them) but I have reservations (or suspicions) about their commitments other than fingers-for-hire.

It's a bit difficult for me to be concerned about today's performers exploiting "folk music" - Judy Collins broke my heart twenty years ago.

- Dick Rodgers

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,AndyT
Date: 15 May 08 - 09:12 AM

Charlie, I'm glad to hear of your success in getting a place and time for the memorial gathering and sing-around. You're the one who's running things. I, for one, would be willing to contribute up to $100 to help FSGW pay the $300 to use the space at WES.
I agree with the idea of calling the memorial gathering for 6 PM if this allows enough time to set up, and I agree with the idea of including a potluck. I think this will be a memorable event.
Andrew Teter (Andy)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 14 May 08 - 04:19 PM

Prelimiinary, since I just found out the hall is available and have tentatively reserved it--but--

FSGW will plan a memorial service and sing-around for Saturday evening, June 14th, at the Washington Ethical Society, 7750 16th St. NW, Washington DC. We still need to figure out the starting hour, format, and such.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Janie
Date: 14 May 08 - 12:06 AM

I've got one or two decent photos of Dick from the Getaways. If a poster is done, I expect you'll have plenty enough photos, but will be glad to e-mail mine to someone. Just pm me with an e-mail address.

Janie

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: JedMarum
Date: 13 May 08 - 11:48 PM

Sad to see him go. Bless his memory.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Ferrara
Date: 13 May 08 - 11:21 PM

Chuck, I also feel we really need a photo poster for the Washington Folk Festival. We probably have to give up the idea of having a short memorial at the WFF, simply because the shuttle buses stop running at 6pm which was the only time available. But we would like to put up a big photo poster with a notice of his death, a short biography, lots of photos, and a notice of the time and place of the memorial event.

I don't know who will have time to put a poster together, or whether we will need someone to help with that. Charlie suggested maybe it should be laminated so it could go in the picnic grove if possible, rather than being somewhere less central.

Also, Charlie suggested waiting on the newspaper notice until we have scheduled a memorial event.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Maryrrf
Date: 13 May 08 - 09:16 PM

I remember him from the Getaways I attended. I actually enjoyed some of his songs even though he was out of tune - it was obvious he enjoyed singing them and that counted for a lot. I'm sorry to hear of his passing.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: GUEST,Chuck Moran
Date: 13 May 08 - 05:47 PM

A photo poster would be a good idea for use in the trees at Glen Echo, during the Washington Folk Festival, as well as for use at Royal Mile Pub and Washington Ethical Society for memorial purposes.   At Glen Echo, even people who don't know him would recognize the Hurdy-Gurdy man, and would be informed of our loss.

Chuck Moran

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Severn
Date: 13 May 08 - 05:06 PM

Songster Bob-

You talked about Montgomery County regulations. His apartment in Laurel is in Prince Georges County, if that makes a difference.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Ferrara
Date: 13 May 08 - 03:52 PM

I'm gathering information on the legal situation, and checking closely with Bob C and Charlie Baum as I go. We seem to have the full cooperation and goodwill of the landlord -- and their lawyers. The Office of the Register of Wills is closed due to flooding so it may take a few days.

Rita

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Bert
Date: 13 May 08 - 02:49 PM

Dick was a man with character and courage.

Let us try to emulate that.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Bill D
Date: 13 May 08 - 02:26 PM

It is being worked on...contact has been made with the apartment and with other authorities to let them know there are friends who have known him for a long time who will be glad to assist (in line with the laws, of course) It will take some time.

We (several people) have offered to help even to putting stuff in storage until legal requirements are met)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: GUEST,Songster Bob
Date: 13 May 08 - 02:09 PM

Concerning Dick's possessions, etc., I asked Pete and Grace Kraemer, both folkies and lawyers, about it, and here's Pete's response:

----

The probate court will decide on the disposition of Dick's possessions and life insurance, etc. I suspect they will appoint a trustee, some sort of magistrate, I think, to be the person of record.

In the meanwhile, his possessions may be in jeopardy. If he can, the landlord will take possession of the apartment since the lessee, Dick, is deceased. To do so in Montgomery County will require petitioning the court for repossession. Then what happens to the possessions I don't know: he can't put them out on the curb, like if someone abandoned the apartment since the articles there are in trust to the probate executor. (That's what I remember of the matter.)

If people are concerned, and I think we really should be, we need to contact the probate court. I think someone would have to ask the court to let them represent unknown decedents or survivors (Dick's missing sister.) Then work with the probate executor to either find someone who does stand to inherit Dick's stuff, or have the county sheriff hold an auction of the stuff to pay for rent on the apartment that the landlord can't collect while this is in progress, the cost of the probate itself, including looking for the surviving sister, or her offspring. The sale/auction is where people who want stuff can make offers to buy it.

Dick, like everyone had debts, bills on the dining table he was going to take care of, and that sort of thing. The probate court has to settle those affairs out of the sale, unless a surviving descendant is found.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,GUEST, Laura Sailer
Date: 13 May 08 - 06:29 AM

Following in Dick's tradition I make a short story long:
Little did I know that night when I first met the Cathedral Avenue Cacophony that the guy with the guitar, to whom Dick had introduced me, would eventually become my (second) husband and the father of my two kids.

    At that time I was about the marry Dave Laning, who later said of Dick and the Cathedral Avenue Cacophony "When I first met Dick Rodgers, he couldn't carry a tune in a bucket... He has since found himself a bucket."

    He was always talking us into adding a new song to our repertoire. It was especially challenging when Dick would sing the song to me and expect me to learn it from hearing his rendition. I think part of Peter's record collection was purchased out of self defense for that learning curve. But one way or another we'd work up song after song. Dick, hurdy gurdy in hand, liked to refer to himself as "the ramrod of this organization." Another nick-name he earned at our rehearsals was "fourdammit!" It always amazed me with as many times as Dick had jitterbugged or waltzed me around a dance floor (or any horizontal space where he was able to stand -- including the Nicholses' living room at a crowded party before the enlarged their house) that his sense of rythm did not carry over into his singing or fiddling. I often wondered if he'd get the fourth beat if he danced while playing, but I guess that would be like chewing gum and walking at the same time; some folks just can't manage it.

Several years later my sister Janice joined us to gain admission to the Rennaissance Festival (when it was in Columbia). Janice, who sings but doesn't play, would keep up a little patter during the dead time while we were all fussing with our instruments. "Most performers at this point begin telling tuning jokes... but we ARE a tuning joke." Peter and I had the Cacophony take part musically in our wedding and did not regret it.

   Dick was always broke and prided himself on making due with scavenged materials for instrument "repairs." Some friends of his (Bob Clayton? Don Nichols?) made him his first hurdy gurdy, which was actually a rather nice instrument when it started out, sufficient that someone stole it. Dick, while substituting in the Montg'y County Public Schools for some income, cobbed one together in wood shop; a little more sophisticated than a cigar box strung with rubber bands, but not much better sounding. Later in woodshop he attempted to make instrument he'd seen in Groves' Dictionary of Music called a Trombamarine (among other things) At the Rennaissance Festival the Lowde Consort walked by one afternoon and one of them exclaimed "my god, that's a trombamarine!" and then, after a second glance, "no, it's not." I hesitate to think what materials he might have used to maintain the violin he's had on loan from us since he had to hock his fiddle a decade or so ago, (or for that matter, if we'll ever see the instrument again,) but the thought of Dick Rodgers without a fiddle was almost as inconceiveable as FSGW without Dick.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,GUEST, Laura Sailer
Date: 13 May 08 - 05:18 AM

In 1971 when I went to one of my first Getaways, Dick was someone I already knew from open sings and tales my sister Janice regaled me with. I felt a bit out of place, as I was weaned on classical music and did not know the words to all the songs these people were singing, but I had brought a flute and Dick insisted I meet some friends of his who were going to play on the Saturday night concert. It was in the day when the Smothers Brothers were singing "...I can tell by your outfit that you are a cowboy..." Dick wanted to poke fun at Chance Shivers who was MCíng and I guess had sung "the original" that came from (Streets of Laredo) and Dick was going to sing the song that came from (Bard of Armaugh) or something like that. He led me to a cabin in A area (campsite #4 PW Forest) where he presented "the Cathedral Avenue Cacophony." Peter Sailer had a guitar, Dick had his fiddle, and Joann McLaughlin was trying to play her cello -- with gloves on! (That Getaway it was colder than a brass toilet seat). Dick had gotten this motley crew together (with a couple others who did not continue with the group) to play at the International Croquet Tournament. After the Getaway Dick wanted us to play at an open sing and Peter insisted we practice (apparently a foreign concept to Dick at the time). Frugal-to-a-fault Dick, always with a keen eye for an opportunity to freeload, insisted that rehearsals include a gourmet meal, which Peter dutifully supplied. And so the Cathedral Avenue Cacophony continued for about two decades.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Ferrara
Date: 12 May 08 - 11:46 PM

Many thanks to Andy Teter for all he is doing now, and for his thoughtful posts. A number of people are working to co-ordinate the various things that need to be done, since Dick had no family in the area.

Dick and his hurdy-gurdy were "an institution" at the Washington Folk Festival, and if it can be worked out there will be a short remembrance of him there. If there isn't a formal one on the stages, there will certainly be an informal one in the picnic picking area!

In addition we're thinking of a special memorial event for him (possibly at the Washington Ethical Society, our main venue for many years), with lots of group singing in his honor.

We'll post information on this thread as events develop.

Rita F

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: GUEST,Chuck Moran
Date: 12 May 08 - 09:40 PM

Dick was probably the first person we met in FSGW when we attended a picnic in the late 60's or early 70's.   Forever after, he became known to us and our then young kids, not as "Dick Rodgers," but as "Key of G," when he said, in response to our question, "What key should we play it in?"--"Key of G, the people's key!"

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,AndyT
Date: 12 May 08 - 10:35 AM

More about Dick Rodgers --
First, I became aware this morning that there is a difference between a "news obituary", which the Washington Post says is "a staff-written article that summarizes a person's life" based on information given to the W. Post, and is printed at no cost, and a "paid death notice", which the W. Post says costs $9.25 per line of text, minimum $131.75, which would cover up to 14 lines, plus a cost for any photo: $150 black and white; $185 color. I can easily pay or share in paying for the cost of a "paid death notice" and photo. Before I assume the important responsibility of providing info to the W. Post for a "news obituary", I want to give first chance to Charlie Baum or Dottie Hurley, and I've left messages on the voice mail of each, and I'm now waiting for either or both to contact me.
Second, there may be a problem getting into the apartment where Dick lived, which I understand was rented, not owned, and I assume the next rent is due June 1. When Dick entered the hospital, apparently the only person whom he gave information about as a relative or friend to contact in an emergency turned out to be himself, so it's uncertain whether anyone other than the landlord has the right to enter his apartment. He had been estranged for several years from his only relative, his sister, so it's uncertain how to contact her or whether she is still living. Dick's remains will probably be cremated, and not sent to a funeral home, so his death can probably be verified only by calling the hospital where he died. Dick lived in Laurel, MD, where I met him in front to go with him to the Old Songs Festival in 2006, and more recently to drive him around to look for a used car to buy. Dick apparently didn't have much money, but I would think there is much in his apartment home of value related to folklore and folk music.
    I want to be helpful as possible, and you can contact me by email at AndrewTeter (at) aol.com, or by phone at 301-565-9137.
    Andrew Teter (Andy)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,AndyT
Date: 11 May 08 - 05:32 PM

Tomorrow, Monday May 12, I intend to submit my draft of Dick Rodger's obituary to the Washington Post. Although I hope there will be a memorial service or Open Sing in his honor, so far I don't know of any concrete planning for that, so I intend to not mention it in the obituary. If you want to contact me for any reason, email me at [e-mail] or phone me at 301-565-9137. Here's my draft so far of the obituary for the W. Post: DICK RODGERS (Age 70). Of Laurel, MD, Dick Rodgers died of a heart attack on May 6 at Laurel Regional Hospital. He was born in Youngstown, OH. After finishing military service, he was a member of the Folklore Society of Greater Washington since it was founded in 1964, at times also serving in board positions. As a folk music enthusiast and participant, he sang, and played his hurdy gurdy, guitar, pipes, and fiddle. For more obituary information about him, and friends' comments, see www.mudcat.org/threads.cfm.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: kendall
Date: 11 May 08 - 05:24 PM

He may not have been a great musician, but he certainly had the number one requirement, a great love of our kind of music.
And, I never heard him say an unkind word about anyone. Rest easy, Mate.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Bob Hitchcock
Date: 11 May 08 - 05:15 PM

What a shock, Dick was one of the first folkies I met when I moved to Washington in 1978 and always had a pleasant word and a smile. Yes, his playing and singing were not perfect but then very few of us are perfect, I know I'm not. I always said about his Fiddle playing that his fingers were like lightning as they never hit the same place twice. But I admired his drive and determination.

He will surely be missed.

Bob Hitchcock.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,Big Mick
Date: 11 May 08 - 09:35 AM

This is the way of it with good people. Dick is providing me with so many smiles as the tellin' goes on, and thus shall it ever be. As we trod the path, and head for our own reunions with Dick, each time the stories are told, folks will smile. His voice will alway be heard. It speaks well for him .......... and better for you.

God be good to him.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Pauline L
Date: 11 May 08 - 02:16 AM

As so many people have pointed out, Dick was an off-key singer and instrumentalist, but he was so knowledgeable and enthusiastic that you had to admire him. He was also enthusiastic about other people. He seemed to like everyone and make them feel at home. His knowledge about songs often made me understand and like them better. I'm sorry I never saw him dance.

Bob, thanks for starting this thread and telling us so much about him. I hadn't known that he did so much to support the cause of folk music many years ago.

Many of us will miss him. That in itself shows what an unusually well liked and respected person he was.

I haven't heard anything about a service for him.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 10 May 08 - 12:57 PM

I completely agree, Charlie, Dick would be very pleased. I hope he's grinning and enjoying it somewhere.... and discovering that now, every note that he plays on his fiddle is just right. :-)

... But of course the first thing he would want to do, is go chew the fat with Jonathon Eberhart, Helen Schneyer and all the folks over there that he knew since Day 1 of the Folklore Society. Oh dear ... I'd better stop right there.

I've posted two photos of Dick, taken by our son, Darriel:

Dick at RenFest, with hurdy-gurdy

Dick at the Getaway

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Charley Noble
Date: 10 May 08 - 09:14 AM

I think Dick would be very pleased to read what everyone has posted on this thread, warts and all!

I only met him once at a Getaway, as a ballad workshop leader and, yes, he made a lasting impression on me as well.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Fortunato
Date: 10 May 08 - 09:02 AM

After 30+ years of short, in-passing conversations I still knew little about Dick apart from folk music and the events we attended. I knew well his struggles to sing the many songs he knew so well. His determination to play the guitar and other instruments I see now after his passing as a kind of bravery, for he knew his limitations.

All of us who have used our time and talents to express ourselves through the music must work through our limitations, and we hope for acceptance. In later years, and just last October at our pre-getaway party, I had come to accept Dick's expression through the music, and I saw, after many years of effort, improvement.

I hope someone can say that about me after I have passed on.
And I hope, having known Dick, I can turn a kinder, more accepting ear to those who strive to let the music play through them.

Chance Shiver

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Noreen
Date: 10 May 08 - 06:11 AM

Lovely to read all these memories of Dick.

I remember him well from my two Ramblewood Getaways, as one of the many characters who made the gathering so special and memorable.

Thanks Bill for the photo from the 2003 Getaway where Snuffy and I are intently watching Dick play his hurdy-gurdy... and wondering... :0~

He was a lovely man, friendly to strangers who shared his love of the music.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Nancy King
Date: 09 May 08 - 11:42 PM

My personal favorite of Dick's songs was "Hang on the Bell, Nellie," which he always performed with great gusto.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Ron Davies
Date: 09 May 08 - 10:31 PM

It's true--I can't imagine anybody doing "The Gol-durn Wheel" better than he did. Maybe somebody else would not swoop around on the notes so much--but his approach fit the song perfectly.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ferrara
Date: 09 May 08 - 10:21 PM

You know, it's funny, but when I think back, I am mostly remembering the times when he was really on top of a song. My big favorite was "The Gol-Durned Wheel," which he NEVER messed up or forgot the words, at least that I remember; and also "The Dreary Black Hills," maybe because he was so solid on them.

But IMO, in the past couple of years he had done very nice versions of quite a few good songs at the FSGW Open Sings. He was at his best with old chestnuts, something by Woody Guthrie for example. He could really give them life. And of course, he played his guitar on those rather than trying to play a half-learned fiddle tune.... If I liked the way he did a song I just gave him a grin and a thumbs-up, and he would grin back.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: jacqui.c
Date: 09 May 08 - 09:25 PM

What a shock. You somehow expect folk like Dick to be around for ever. Of course, his memory will always be there, as much for his 'talents' as anything else. That story about setting fire to his words will become legend.

May your God bless and keep you Dick.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: open mike
Date: 09 May 08 - 07:08 PM

For those who wonder--here is the organization often mentioned here;
http://www.fsgw.org/
and now I have to learn the Gol Darned Wheel...inspired by hearing about it here.http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1523996/a/Back+In+The+Saddle+Again:+American+Cowboy+Songs.htm

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: voyager
Date: 09 May 08 - 03:07 PM

For my 15 years in out of FSGW, Dick Rodgers has been an inimitable presence & 'monster talent' -A cross between Billy Goat Gruff and
The Hurdy-Gurdy Man

Fare Thee Well and God Speed

voyager

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Bill D
Date: 09 May 08 - 02:53 PM

Mary, that is one problem. The only family we know of is one sister who 'was' in California, and who broke ties with him 12-14 years ago.

I don't know anyone who has details. Presumably, those with 'authority' will look for addresses, names..etc...in his effects.

We (various friends) are trying to find out what is being done. There are some FSGW relevant historical items that Dick had..(photos, etc.)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 May 08 - 12:34 PM

I am laughing out loud a the picture of Dick gamefully taking up harp playing in heaven. Does anyone know if he has family who would like to read what his friends and "family" are saying at his passing?

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Severn
Date: 09 May 08 - 11:39 AM

But now he's "crossed the bar", as Tennyson would say......

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Bill D
Date: 09 May 08 - 11:28 AM

"I sometimes think he started his Folk Strums magazine/newsletter just for the Press pass it gave him. "

Oh, I know this was a major reason! Dick told me so.

Dick went to law school for awhile. He told me he had planned to make law a career, but ran low on money and got 'distracted'.

I sorta think we should all be glad he didn't go on to pass the bar.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Severn
Date: 09 May 08 - 11:05 AM

He had loads of stories of the early folk scene in Washington and did a workshop or displayed a gallery at various events on several occaisions. I always enjoyed his stories of what went on backstage in the '60s at some of the major festivals and clubs. I sometimes think he started his Folk Strums magazine/newsletter just for the Press pass it gave him. He did have quite an encyclopedic knowledge of the music, which tended to show itself more at the FSGW events and sings as opposed to the Shanty sings where his song selection tended to play it a little safer, except in December when he'd always lead us in "Remember Pearl Harbor" which, as a gift as a child, was the first record he ever owned and always proved a nice touch.

In recent years, I was able to show him how to use a computer well enough for him to use the ones in the seniors apartments he lived in fairly nearby to me. I also gave him a spare turntable and speakers which put him back in touch with the music on his collection of LPs, many of them rare and out of print. He was nice enough to let me borrow a few in exchange.

He was always a source of help and encouragement and welcome to anyone, especially new singers.

He was always there somewhere with his beer and his hearing aid in evidence but would disappear for smoke breaks (and beer in non-alchohol situations). He'd have his senior moments and battles with the gurdy or pipes. If you followed him at a shanty sing, you ditched the ballad and went with a lively one. But maybe a version of one of his favorites like "Hurrah, We're Homeward Bound" or "Captain Kidd" in his honor at the Royal Mile sings might be in order soon.

I'm sure he'll make a wonderful harper, as everyone can play and sing once they get to heaven, so they tell me. (The virtuosi are allowed to STAY better and envy is unheard of, I gather).

So long, Dick!

I haven't seen any word on the services.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Micca
Date: 09 May 08 - 04:05 AM

I have only known Dick for the Getaways and the pre-Getaways at Chance and Suzettes, and I agree with much of what has been said already!! He was a "character" and will be missed by many, because in a strange way he represented in one man much of of what I enjoy about Folk music, The appearence of being a rank amateur, while having almost encyclopaedic knowledgable, the slightly down at heel appeareance and slightly out of tune singing and playing (ok a LOT out of tune sometimes) but with a burning joy and enthusiasm for the music and Song, I will miss him
Micca

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: DeanC
Date: 08 May 08 - 11:08 PM

Dick and I were on a Getaway committee together back in the first few years we were at Camp Letts. He may have been the chair that year - I can't remember. Anyway, he wanted me to emcee the Saturday night concert. Being pretty much a non-performer, I wasn't too thrilled with that idea. But Dick was insistent, and I realized that if he could get up in front of people and perform, so could I. I did it for a few years and then went back to singing choruses.

Dick was always willing to talk to new people at FSGW events, and he made them feel welcomed.

Thanks, Dick. I'll miss you.

Dean Clamons

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: AndyT
Date: 08 May 08 - 10:09 PM

Dick's gone to "Fiddler's Green" and I'll miss him and his hurdy gurdy, guitar, pipes, fiddle, and voice. What a character! He and I attended the Old Songs Festival near Albany NY in 2006, my first time there. I'm trying to help write an obit to submit to the Washington Post, and Bob Clayton's obit in Mudcat is a good source of info and good to refer to (www.mudcat.org/threads.cfm).
Andy

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 08 May 08 - 09:49 PM

I loved Dick for all his exasperating out-of-tuneness--he was the ultimate evidence that you could get by on enthusiasm and spirit rather than talent. I'll miss his unique laugh and his voluminous expertise. Not to mention his great ability to nudge people to get the singing party going--He was usually the one who convened the Friday night gatherings at the Getaway, calling on people to stop socializing and start making music.

We're going to have to have a memorial sing-around where everyone will mis-tune their instruments. It'll be hell to listen to, but remind us of a good friend in heaven, where even now, other angels are probably cringing at his attempts to play a harp, to which he will respond with a complete history of the instrument.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 08 May 08 - 08:55 PM

We were just talking this past weekend about Dick and his hurdy-gurdy. I really looked forward to and loved hearing that thing (maybe because it was only once a year at Getaway?!) and the spirit with which he played it, and sang: especially the Mingulay Boat Song.

A nice part of my Getaway memories is coming upon Dick sitting outside somewhere, and his sideways smile: his spirit will be missed.


Dani

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: momnopp
Date: 08 May 08 - 08:40 PM

It's funny how we are each remark - able in our own way. As noted by so many, he played and sang nearly always off key, but yeah - he was so damn amiable and good-natured, you could only get so pissed at him. Ubiquitous. Cheery in his own, funny way. Enthusiastic about the music. I can hear his laugh.

Cheers, Dick.

JudyO/momnopp

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: GUEST,David
Date: 08 May 08 - 06:52 PM

Dick is one of the people whose presence made events feel homey. I'm glad, Vince, that one of your pictures shows him sitting back with a stout in his hand and a smile on his mug.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 May 08 - 04:57 PM

The first time I met Dick was at ramblewood. He was introducing a group of us to his hurdy-gurdy and I jokingly asked "But it play 'Lady of Spain'" i though Allan C would kill me. It did.

Probably only the ladies know this - Dick was an amazing dancer. Can anyone forget Dick waltzing KT around the cafeteria? Quite lovely.

I did enjoy his old cowboy songs and will miss them and him.
70? I don't believe it!

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,Pete Kraemer
Date: 08 May 08 - 04:05 PM

Grace just emailed me to tell me about Dick.

He was around on the very first time I went to any folk gathering here in Washington, shortly after we arrived here some 27 years ago or so, and always around. Always there. Friendly, funny, annoying, to be sure, but a constant.
I'm really going to miss Dick.

This is no fun at all.

Pete

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:50 PM

Going thru my pictures from the Royal Mile Pub Chantey Sings, Dick was always prominent, and alway photogenic in his own unique way.

Fiddling:

1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12 

Singing:

1  2  3  4  5  6  7 

Piping:

1  2  3  4 

};-(

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: GUEST,Eugene
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:14 PM

Dan; I stand corrected you were the other person that was witness to to that moment. Either way my tongue has recovered from that moment. And I could not think of better memory to share about his passion and persistance. He was trying, and he was doing his best. One of the things that I did learn via Dick's example is that through persistance can come accomplishment.

None the less I will miss Dick Hurdy-Gurdy and all.

I look forward to reading some of the other stories and anecdotes about Dick.

I do not remember the year I met Dick; but I would guess that it was 1868 or 1869 (add 100 years to these numbers for the correct years); either way it was long ago and we have been crossing paths ever since.

I belieive that it may have been Dick that drove the night I met Bob Clayton.

-E

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: MMario
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:01 PM

And it is a trueism. I've sat through some pretty bad performances (by amatuers and pros alike) but when you are at a *good* one it's worth it all.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Nancy King
Date: 08 May 08 - 11:59 AM

He might have expressed the same idea in different ways at different times. It does seem to have been a sort of theme in his life...

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 08 May 08 - 11:40 AM

Actually, what he said was, "You may have to go through 20 bad notes before you hit a good one, but it's worth it for that one sweet note."

Dan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 May 08 - 10:33 AM

"...you play a lot of notes and every so often you hit a note that is right on and it sounds really good." Dick Rodgers via Guest/Eugene

lol What a great epitaph. I'd love it for myself.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Bill D
Date: 08 May 08 - 10:19 AM

Dick, at 2003 Getaway

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: GUEST,guest The Callaghans
Date: 08 May 08 - 10:09 AM

We will miss Dick very much. He was a man of great charm and a gentle humor. He had a contagious laugh. He was a raconteur. He had a sweet nature. Yes, on occasion a person would wish he would leave off a verse or two or give up on tuning the pipes this one time. But that was a small part of the man. He will be greatly missed.

Michele and Dennis Callaghan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 08 May 08 - 09:53 AM

Dick helped to teach me tolerance. The first time I heard him sing I thought "He has no business getting up in front of people." As I got to know him, I realized his love and enthusiam for the music and the good songs he could present. I always suspected Dick was tone deaf with a love of music. He seemed not to know when he or his instrument was out of tune. But he was always enjoying his presentation, not out of ego, but out of his love of the song.

May he rest in peace.

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008
From: Jeri
Date: 08 May 08 - 09:18 AM

I remember the Getaway at Ramblewood and the Saturday night concert in the 'TV room'. Dick had signed up for a spot and I watched as he sat down with that hurdy gurdy. Well, he started playing and singing the Mingulay Boat Song and everyone began to sing along. I don't know if he planned it, but he sure seemed to be happy with everyone singing. It was one of those 'is this really happening' moments, an exquisitely beautiful surprise.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution (May 2008)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 May 08 - 02:38 AM

I guess we'll all chuckle a bit when we think of Dick, but I think we all liked him. He was a good man.
Rest in peace, Dick. I'll think of you every time I hear a hurdy gurdy.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Anglo
Date: 08 May 08 - 01:46 AM

Many here have spoken of his hurdy-gurdy. He had it for a long time - he built it himself. And it did sound awful. I heard it many times over many years. But I bought one anyway, quite a long time ago. Dick will surely be missed. I am sorry to hear of his passing.

JR

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: GUEST,Eugene
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:32 AM

I have many memories of Dick.

Dick will probably always be the first person that comes to my mind and my personal reference-standard for the instrumentalist and singer that I never want to be or to become. But he had many redeeming qualities and his knowledge and enthusiasm was always clear and substantial. Dick not only knew many songs but he knew the history of many songs and he never lost his passion for music.

Dick had the worst sounding Hurdy-Gurdy I have ever heard. I was remarking to someone only a month ago that there is a lot of beautiful Hurdy-Gurdy music; but I added that Dick's instrument was an exception which should be avoided at most any cost.

Dicks fiddle playing was hard to cope with. Dick once remarked to me that "you play a lot of notes and every so often you hit a note that is right on and it sounds really good." Dick was sincere when he spoke those words and I had to bite my tongue almost literally to avoid laughing.

My exposure to Dick's singing and playing is the most prominent reason why I have always been shy about playing my music around other people: I never want to even come close to annoying people through off-key playing the way that he did.

A few odd recollections about Dick include that he at one time in the early 1970's ran for Congress; albeit briefly.

Dick had a remarkable knowledge of American history which I at times found very interesting and on occasion I would ask him questions about history because I knew that he would have good answers to provide.

I will think of Dick often in the future.

-E

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Janie
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:11 AM

I too am saddened to learn of Dick's passing. Like others, I only knew him from the Getaways, where I did occasionally have the pleasure of him leading me in a lovely, smooth, waltz. He was an odd bird, even among so many of us who are odd birds. He seemed uncomfortable in his own skin, but determined to both wear it and not let the discomfort stop him from doing what he loved, and sharing what he knew. I admired his tenacity.

I know I will acutely notice his absence at the next Getaway.

Fly free, Dick. Fly free.



Thanks for letting us know Bob.

Janie

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:04 AM

As a relative 'newbie' to all this, I am almost embarrassed to post. He couldn't sing and he couldn't play (but then neither can I) and you had to admire his courage to get up there and do it anyway.........

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Ron Davies
Date: 07 May 08 - 11:51 PM

He also wrote some just wonderful songs--like "The Great Bethesda Buffalo Stampede"--that's Bethesda, Maryland--hilarious--and very loosely based on a true incident. But it was hard to get him to perform them more than once every 3 years or so.

And certain songs his style fitted perfectly, to my way of thinking--like "The Dreary Black Hills". I can't imagine anybody else doing it better. I always thought he did it the way a cowboy who sang it really might do it.

And he seemed to have known everybody 40 or 50 years ago--present at the creation of the folk boom in the US, without a doubt.

He will definitely be missed.

RIP, Dick

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 May 08 - 11:50 PM

I think the song that I will remember him for is "Wild Mountain Thyme". In fact, that is the song I am going to sing for him at Getaway.

Good man gone.

Mick

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 07 May 08 - 11:33 PM

Another event Dick liked was the monthly chantey sing at the Royal Mile pub in Wheaton. He was there most times. We heard he'd passed away in time to do some tributes to him there last night; Mike Bosworth sang "Fiddlers Green," and I sang "The Outside Track," both supported by our bandmates in the Ship's Company Chanteymen: Don Kenefick, Don Stallone, Myron Peterson, and Paul DiBlasi. Vince Wilding also dedicated his song to Dick, as did several other regulars. We'll all miss the man (the hurdy-gurdy and smallpipes, not so much!)

One thing that should be said about Dick is that he was very kind and generous with introductions for any new folk enthusiast coming to Washington, whether you came in the 80s like my girlfriend, or in the 00s like me.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Nancy King
Date: 07 May 08 - 10:11 PM

Bob is right in calling Dick an "FSGW Institution." He was just ALWAYS there. He never missed a Getaway (though he usually stole away on Sunday afternoon to sit in his car and listen to the Redskins football game on the radio -- he and I would congratulate each other enthusiastically on the rare occasions they won...) or a Mini-Fest, or an Open Sing, or any other folkie event in the DC area.

He did miss the Open Sing last week, but he'd called the hostess to explain he wouldn't be there because he was in the hospital following surgery for an intestinal obstruction and seemed to be doing fine, so it's a real shock to hear of his passing. It's just hard to imagine him NOT being there.

We all put up with the off-key singing and the often out-of-tune guitar and the strange grating hurdy-gurdy and the screeching fiddle (I count myself fortunate to have missed the pipes...), because it was so obvious that Dick's love of the music and his knowledge of the history behind it was so great and so contagious.

Bob, thanks for posting the news and for the biographical information.

Bill, thanks for the picture.

Dick, thanks for your enthusiasm and your knowledge and your friendliness. We'll miss you.

Nancy

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 May 08 - 09:29 PM

I am so sad to hear this. Dick was one of those folks that makes the FSGW such a wonderful patchwork quilt of folkies. The one thing about the FSGW crowd is that they truly love, and do all they can to preserve and perpetuate, this music we all love. From the most talented to the least talented, across the board they are savvy, know the music, and put the leather to the floor when the work of passin' it on has to be done. In the short 9 years that I have come to know, respect and love these folkies in the Greater Washington area, Dick has been right at the front of it. He was such a fixture, and such a font of information, that the FSGW (for all his foibles) will not be the same organization without him. He loved the music with all his heart, he was friendly to a fault, and he had a lovely curiousity about him.

Yeah, he could bug folks too. That man absolutely drove me crazy with his Northumbrian Pipes. He owns a lovely set in cherry that he has been tinkering with for years. The bag is shot, the reeds are made of some of the damnedest materials I have ever seen, the joints leak, and the whole rig smells of cigarette smoke. I remember chewing his ass about taking them to a pipe builder, I even recommended folks in the area. I begged him to sell them to me so I could repair them. He would just kind of chuckle and tell me he was sure he could get them going. And he would try, and the noise was more than another piper could bear...... I still chuckle at the thought of watching him pumping like crazy and doing his best, and then asking me if I recognized it. I would tell him no, and try to convince him.....again..... to sell me the pipes to no avail. Odd as it seems, I will miss our annual argument over those pipes.

God be good to you, Dick. You will be missed and I will sing a song to you at the Getaway this year.

To Bob, Jennifer, Kath, Charley, Lisa, and all my dear FSGW friends, please accept my condolences on the loss of your friend.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: karen k
Date: 07 May 08 - 09:07 PM

I'm sorry to hear this. Yes, there will be a huge hole in the Getaway. He, as has been said, was not the best musician or singer, but his love of the music sure was contagious. Dick, you will be missed. Rest in peace.

karen

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: ranger1
Date: 07 May 08 - 08:59 PM

Much like Ebbie, I didn't really know Dick except for having met him at the Getaway. The two things that stand out in my mind are his hurdy-gurdy and his graceful dancing. I remember being amazed that such a gangly man was such a fluid, graceful dancer.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Padre
Date: 07 May 08 - 08:17 PM

I'm sorry to hear about Dick's passing - he was one of the good guys.

Padre

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Bill D
Date: 07 May 08 - 07:32 PM

*smile*

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 May 08 - 07:17 PM

I'm sorry. I didn't know Dick although I remember him well from the two Getaways I have attended so far. What I remember most about him is his enjoyment of everything around him.

RIP, Dick.

(St.Peter, Bill? My, how things change. *G*)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Bill D
Date: 07 May 08 - 06:51 PM

So many thoughts...I met Dick at a Smithsonian Festival...about 1975 before I even moved here in '77, and he has been a part of the scene ever since.
He was a genuine **character**, who could delight you with a story one minute and exasperate you with a badly tuned fiddle the next. The man KNEW folk music, and knew much of the history associated with the songs....which he would tell you, at interminable length, each time the song was done in his presence. *wry grin*. "Yes, Dick, we KNOW there were many different versions of how many holes were bored in the bottom of "The Golden Vanity"!"

   One of his 'specialties' was Cowboy songs, and he did a quite credible version of "The Gol-Durned Wheel", about a cowboy trying to ride a bicycle. He also made a certain kind of point with a spirited and poignant version of "The Black Sheep". I have wondered more than once if it had deeper meaning for him.

Dick did a number of things....as Dan says, he danced, and THAT he did well. He also played golf...whenever he could afford it. He even commissioned and took possession of a set of elaborate Northumbrian Smallpipes!...which he 'almost' learned to play. Sadly, one of the things he did was smoke...which no doubt contributed to his health problems the last few years.

He was ummmm....'thrifty'...when I first knew him, he had a $2 styrofoam beer cooler which he took to festivals and other events. When I moved here, he still had it...albeit with some duct tape added....and he nursed it along for a couple more years! When I teased him, he just laughed because HE felt it was an accomplishment...and by golly, it was!

I can't count the times Dick provided missing words for someone whose memory failed...but on stage HE would forget the same words.

Dick was a lot of things...some amazingly fascinating, some tedious...but he was a iconic part of FSGW for all of its history, and by God, we WILL miss him!

Will we miss the Hurdy Gurdy? Yes, I think we will. The rest of you have your banjo joke and accordian jokes...WE at FSGW had dozens of Hurdy Gurdy jokes, "It'll never quit squealing until you stop twisting its tail, Dick!"...and Dick put up with them in reasonably good humor for many years.

I hope St Peter doesn't laugh TOO hard when the harp is refused and a Hurdy Gurdy is requested.

'Bye, Dick

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: curmudgeon
Date: 07 May 08 - 06:08 PM

Sad news: Dick had an unbounded enthusiasm for the music we all love.

While we were both at the Getaway in '69, we never met. But fortunately, we did get acquainted in '05. I will never forget the memorable experience of accomanying Dick on concertina; a bit of a challenge, but well worth it -- Tom Hall

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Barry Finn
Date: 07 May 08 - 05:17 PM

Thanks from me too Bob for your nice & kind write up of Dick. I only met him at the Getway when I started to go in 99 (I think) & then got to seeing him at verious festivals, he always had a great grin & a cheering smile. He was always warm & welcoming to me & others around him. He had a great spirit & love for the music we all love & he certinally shared that with the rest of us. I hope he had a peaceful passing, I'll miss seeing him.

Barry

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: GUEST,Dan Schatz (laptop)
Date: 07 May 08 - 05:08 PM

I have known Dick all my life - he's one of those people who has just always been around the folk music community in Washington, DC. And he did indeed know and care as much about traditional folksongs as anyone out there. He was also a very good dancer - smooth and graceful. It's hard to imagine the FSGW without him.

Dan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: Jeri
Date: 07 May 08 - 04:28 PM

Bob, I'm so sorry! I can't believe I won't see him at the Getaway. When I lived in the DC area, I'd see Dick at open sings and he was the first person to tell me I really had to go to the Getaway. I didn't go until a few year after I moved away from the area, but I remembered what he'd said about it. I'll always remember him too.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: MMario
Date: 07 May 08 - 04:25 PM

What a loss! I only knew him from Getaways -but I know I will miss him.

Subject: Obit: Dick Rodgers, FSGW Institution
From: GUEST,Songster Bob
Date: 07 May 08 - 04:18 PM

FSGW stalwart and folk music enthusiast Dick Rodgers died at age 70 of a heart attack on Tuesday, May 6. Dick may be considered "FSGW member number one,” joining the Society as soon as it was founded. Though he was not one of the crew that met in Chuck Perdue’s kitchen to found the Society in 1964, Dick has been there ever since. Famed for his enthusiasm and friendliness, as well as his often slightly off-key performances and his penchant for seeking the oddest, most obscure ballad or broadside, Dick has been a regular at every Open Sing, WFF, mini-festival, “pick-nik” (yes, we used to have those) and program for the entire 44 years of the Society’s existence.

Born and raised in Ohio, Dick finished his military service and came to Washington in the early ‘60s. He was a regular at various coffee houses, including one he ran, and a member of the Washington Folk Music Guild, a precursor to the Society. He used to publish a small folksong newsletter, “Washington Folk Strums,” with news, performer interviews, recording reviews, and a full-page ad on the back for Dale Music (in payment for which he got the Martin classical guitar he always played). Dick’s other regular instrument was a homemade hurdy-gurdy, which he could regularly be seen playing in the picnic area at Washington Folk Festivals and at the Getaway.

In recent times, Dick limited himself to Open Sings and FSGW festivals, though he presented a nice workshop on “Washington in the ‘60s” at this year’s Minifestival, in which I joined him to present a few of the songs we were singing “back in the day.” That was Dick’s last “public” performance, and his presentation was well-received.

Sometimes annoying (at a long-ago FSGW Getaway, his performance of a long, turgid and obscure broadsheet ballad was enough to cause Nan Goland to light his word-sheet afire) and sometimes inspiring (Dick knew lots of songs, and even if he didn’t perform them so well, he could make you think “What a great song! I’ve got to learn that!”), Dick Rodgers will be remembered.


Bob Clayton