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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Amos Date: 22 May 08 - 08:27 AM Sorry again, dear Fantz. Feeling strongly about a decision does not make that decision wrong. I felt very bad when Kerry lost because of the harm it implied for the nation. I would feel pretty bad if Obama lost because of the lost opportunity for my children, It's a matter of wanting the best outcome, but that is not the same as being gullible. In fact, your conflation of the two seems disingenuous on your part and much too cynical for a bolshie. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 22 May 08 - 08:19 AM Not to fear, Fantz... Should Hillary slip into the White House she has Amos at the top of her list of folks to be rounded up and sent off to be reprogramed... BTW, word on the street is that Obama is lookin' into a mandatory rehab program of his own for Clinton-heads... The only snag is that doing so might inflict a major drain on current nursing home labor pools... lol... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Fantasma Date: 22 May 08 - 08:07 AM Amos, you are simply full of it. You are one of the worst here when it comes to suspending disbelief about the candidates you support. I seem to recall you nearly had a friggin' breakdown when Kerry lost. You are part of the problem of what is wrong with voters, not with what is right with them, and saying one thing while engaging in behavior that is the exact opposite of what you say is pure hypocrisy. You are about the least objective person here about Obama, and you were the same way about Kerry in 2004. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Little Hawk Date: 21 May 08 - 05:27 PM Well, Bob Dylan has said that he doesn't think any song can change the world, and I would tend to agree. Some songs can inspire people and increase their enthusiasm about something though. If they inspire people in a good way I'm all for it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Q as guest Date: 21 May 08 - 05:18 PM Unless the song is something like "Three Little Fishes" or Hutsut Ralson on a rillera (sp.?) no one listens anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Little Hawk Date: 21 May 08 - 11:52 AM That is an embarrassingly bad lyric with a tragically bad philosophy driving it. You don't create a better world with more hatred and violence...regardless of whom you direct it toward. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: heric Date: 21 May 08 - 11:11 AM Here's a lost little ditty from 1978 that might work? Death must come to the sickoids at last Peace will become a thing of the past The sickoids have the armies and the guns in their grasp They're going to destroy us with their threats and their lies We must kill them They bug me They're trying to frame the Red Brigades Tell us all we're threatened by the terrorist plague They're hanging a noose around our necks By gluing our minds to the front page Kill them You got no choice Death to the sickoids, or death to you They got the money, they think they got the power To step on your face, make you lick their boots Rise against them They're trying to frame the Red Brigades By telling us we're threatened by a terrorist plague They're hanging a noose around our necks By gluing our minds to the front page Kill them Rise against them -Death to the Sickoids, Brian Goble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Amos Date: 21 May 08 - 10:41 AM A good citizen should never suspend disbelief, just to vote for the candidate of their choice. In a healthy democracy we should ALWAYS be a little skeptical and proudly cynical about those who desire the fat cat job of running the federal government, be it in Congress or the White House. Hear, hear. Despite your often knee-jerk reactions to various posts I make, I couldn't agree with you more on this point. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 21 May 08 - 09:05 AM Yeah, Donuel... I've been thinkin' about that very thing myself... Hard to beat "Volunteers of America" and "Masters of War" but there are definately some songs yet to be written... I might have to go back thru my old stuff to see if anything looks as if it could use a rewrite... I wrote one called "Jesus Don't Make Housecalls Anymore" back in the early 70's that might be worth revisiting??? Problem is that back then I was a 1-5-4'er and now more a 1-4-5 12 bar-er... I'll work on it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Fantasma Date: 21 May 08 - 09:00 AM OK--my above should read "JFK was NO messiah"... Back to your regular brainwashing... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Donuel Date: 21 May 08 - 08:48 AM The kind of internal revolution as proposed by the author of 'I was an economic hitman' will acount for an important fraction of change but corporate lobby money to buy and write laws will take a very targeted revolution from the outside (us). Picture some of the now wealthy private contractors who enjoyed waging a war with impunity on behalf of the Bush Corp administration when they go home and reminise about the good old days. With time on their hands they will want a new scam war for more war profiteering. What will they think of? Probably some terror attacks and key assasinations. How will the public react? predictably ergo same crap different wrapper. Unless the public and FBI is warned as to what to expect from our own zealous super patriots who justify any means as long as cash ends up in their pocket. What kind of revolution will succeed, I don;t know but a few truly great songs sure would help. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Fantasma Date: 21 May 08 - 08:29 AM Thank you heric, for stating that you are a skeptical Obama voter. It is wonderful to see there are Obama supporters who are willing to pop their head above the turret and say what you just did. A good citizen should never suspend disbelief, just to vote for the candidate of their choice. In a healthy democracy we should ALWAYS be a little skeptical and proudly cynical about those who desire the fat cat job of running the federal government, be it in Congress or the White House. Hell, if we all know that FDR was no messiah, JFK was messiah, and Ronald Reagan was no messiah--why in god's name is anyone in this day and age looking to be redeemed by fucking politician jackals? I suspect there are far more of you than there are of the Obama Is the Messiah group. At least, for the sake of salvaging what little is left of our democracy, I sure as hell hope there are a whole lot more of you than there are of the Obamamaniacs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 21 May 08 - 08:10 AM Ake, I think you should facilitate the workshop and, btw, sign me up... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: akenaton Date: 21 May 08 - 02:56 AM Well, I'd rather be a cynic than a fool. The most intelligent, witty, entertaining,well informed, Really good people on this forum are self confessed cynics. I won't list them but I love them all. Next year instead of a getaway, we're going to have a cynics convention!!........and don't say "I don't believe it!!"....Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Q as guest Date: 20 May 08 - 11:02 PM (If I hit my space bar, after typing in the From: blank, it posts the message- even when there is none. It will also permit me to rapidly step down a thread. Never have found out why.) I was going to type- This train: Bound for glory, this train- But none of the candidates have said anything that tells us of real change that will put the U. S. on the track for glory. Obama says get out of Iraq, but suggests nothing to ameliorate the situation. Talk about the job market, but nothing concrete. Hillary says reform health care, but Congress will never vote for a system that leashes the insurance companies. She talks a lot about jobs too. McCain offers only pragmatism. So the country will muddle along with bandaid solutions. In Europe, the nations are banding together and seeking common solutions. Moves toward Nafta and similar cooperative solutions in America have stalled at the starting gate. China, the growing superpower, is holding trade talks with Taiwan; rhetoric won't interfere with business. Asean nations, Japan and China are making deals, rapidly leaving old isolationist views behind. Russia is restoring its power and industry; look for it to start making trading alliances. India and Pakistan are logical partners. Even the Middle East, with growing industry in the Emirates and Iran, is bubbling, but much of the region is beset with ideas surviving from biblical times, and it may be some time before the region settles down. The United States, trying to control the world, will find itself increasingly isolated. This train rolls straight on, no change in direction, a peoples democracy in charge, not permitting deviation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: heric Date: 20 May 08 - 11:00 PM I am so ashamed of my instant cynicism (seriously), and I would have to study this a lot further to have a valid opinion on it - but on first impression, everything listed there on Obama's Congressional legislative history just before he announced his decision to run for President is so clearly for the forces of "good" - trendy and sexy -but nothing controversial, nothing complex. (I'm still voting for him.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Ebbie Date: 20 May 08 - 10:56 PM "You might prefer McCain and I Obama or Clinton but 4 years down the road there won't be a spits worth of difference in what happens." You may be right in your theory when it comes to McCain and Obama/Clinton, Spaw, but we've just had it demonstrated that it ain't necessarily true. Had the Democratic nominee won against the Republican one in 2000 or even in 2004 we would be in a different spot. Not only would there have been fewer deaths of people who will never reach their prime but we would not have the tens of thousands suffering for the rest of their lives. And that's only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: heric Date: 20 May 08 - 10:33 PM Our local newspaper once published the number (names? addresses?) of all the people who received farm subsidy checks mailed to addresses in La Jolla, CA (high income, seaside zip) for not growing things in other states. It was quite a number. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Q as guest Date: 20 May 08 - 10:20 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 20 May 08 - 09:59 PM Hear, hear, Amos... My exact sentiments... Yeah, Tolstoy said that government was like the cabose of the train... Yeah, okay, as long as it stays the heck outta trouble... Bush as shown us just how much trouble a screwed up president can cause... I am not pessemistic and "hoping", yes hoping, that we are not doomed... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Amos Date: 20 May 08 - 09:51 PM It's a terrible shame there's nothing can be done Q. As your mature and insightful apathy makes clear, these large conditions are going to ruin civilization as we know it no matter what happens in the election.It is hopeless, and hope is for the self-deluding. I am sure that none of the last eight years woprsening can really be laid at the feet of Bush's administration. Those constitutional abrogation, those international screw-ups, those military incompetencies, they were doomed to occur no matter who was at the helm. What an asinine, apathetic cynicism you reek, sir. I submit that your weary and hopeless point of view might just be coloring the way the world looks to you a fine shade of fecal dingy brown. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Q as guest Date: 20 May 08 - 09:04 PM Yep, Catspaw, it's fun to think that a candidate can make a difference, but in the end it makes no nevermind, the 'system' is on autopilot. Innocents like Amos will always be disappointed. I remember Roosevelt was the last President who tried to change the step, but in the end, much of his alphabet soup was declared unconstitutional or got deep-sixed soon after his death. It took WW2 to turn the economy around and restart growth with real jobs once again. True, some of the make work jobs helped the parks, etc., and put beans in stomachs, but the country was marking time, without growth. Globalization is restructuring the world, but our kids are not being educated sufficiently to meet the challenge, and differing views on social structure are colliding with little attempt to foster compromise and tolerance. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Fantasma Date: 20 May 08 - 08:30 PM Hear hear catspaw! Or as my gurl Emma always said "If voting changed anything, it wouldn't be legal". Or some such. You get the gist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: catspaw49 Date: 20 May 08 - 08:30 PM Hey Amos......I keep meaning to ask.......What are we supposed to see intead of the wacky symbols and stuff?Obviously a Mac versus PC thing but its really weird. I guess it is everywhere an apostrophe would go. Why do it do dat??? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Amos Date: 20 May 08 - 08:15 PM Well, if we're going to discuss talkers versus doers, here's a summary of Obama's actions as a lawmaker. Karl Fogel remarks: "Barack Obama is exactly what he seems: terrifically smart, well-intentioned, utterly free of the personal insecurities that drive far too much of the decision-making in the current administration, and eminently electable. He stands a much better chance of winning against McCain than any other Democratic candidate would have. The canard that heÕs light on policy simply confuses a primary-season tactic for a general electoral strategy. ThereÕs no point trying to out-wonk Hillary Clinton, but that doesnÕt mean he hasnÕt done his homework: when the time comes, itÕs there in reserve." Maybe Q has a blind spot just to one side of music.... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: catspaw49 Date: 20 May 08 - 08:12 PM Gee whiz Q.......You couldn't be more right except most of the Congress will also be dancing to the tunes of their paying supporters as well and hence as I keep saying.......Politics is a matter of methodology and after the method is established, the system will function in pretty much the same manner no matter who occupies the offices. You might prefer McCain and I Obama or Clinton but 4 years down the road there won't be a spits worth of difference in what happens. To really reform it we need revolution. My vision only gets to the the revolution for change part as a revolution will go wherever it goes and at the end things will be markedly different and we try again. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Q as guest Date: 20 May 08 - 08:00 PM Okay, lets just forget all this campaign rhetoric, it's just smoke and mirrors. Reardless of who becomes the great pumpkin, Congress, which will still be split in intent, will deep six any radical change. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Donuel Date: 20 May 08 - 06:39 PM Believe it or not, 3 years ago a Republican Senator, who was also a physician, already proposed a medication that would lower a person's anxiety about great political change. I'm not kidding. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 20 May 08 - 06:28 PM Ditto on the farm bill... Congress is scared to death of alienating farmers... Problem with farmers these days is that the folks getting the fat checks and tax breaks go to work in 3 piece suits... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: PoppaGator Date: 20 May 08 - 06:04 PM Hey Fantasma, I'm glad to see we agree about David Brooks (if little else). And it was quite sporting of you to jump to Barack's defense in the face of a relatively baseless accusation. I'd beter watch myself. I might wind up agreeing with you on too many issues! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Fantasma Date: 20 May 08 - 05:39 PM Oh come on. Everyone and their mother voted for the friggin' farm bill. Not great for the environment, mind you. But in this country, farm subsidies are making all those corn growers VERY wealth with the ethanol craze. If you are from a state with any major ag interests, you voted for the damn thing. I seem to recall hearing it was easily by a veto proof margin, too. Or was that something else. And I'd like to David Brooks with his legs kicking in the air in a garbage can. But then, c'est moi. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Q as guest Date: 20 May 08 - 05:06 PM Obamiacs will need more than rehabilitation, if Obama makes it to the White House. "Change' is only a slogan. Obama voted for the $307 billion farm bill that rolled through Congress. The bill not only maintains subsidies for even the top 1% of farm owners but plows subsidies into agribusinesses, thoroughbred breeders, subsidies for corn for energy, etc. Even the Wall Street Journal editorial page called it a 'scam.' McCain had the courage to vote against it. He may pay for that if the big boys move support to Obama. Parts of the bill that protected wetlands and wildlife habitat were deleted or shrunk. The vote will win him supporters in Iowa and other farm states, but will increase global food prices and world hunger. Obama's 'change' is a sham and a lie. See David Brooks, "Talking Versus Doing," NY Times, May 20, 2008, columns. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Little Hawk Date: 20 May 08 - 03:53 PM "Patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Don Firth Date: 20 May 08 - 03:51 PM I just had a great idea. Forget the damned missiles and bombs. Launch the patriots! You know, into a high ballisic arc. How they manage to land is up to them. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 20 May 08 - 02:29 PM Ahhhhh, what exactly is yer point, W-Gang??? Did I not correct the category of missles??? 'er what??? I don't get it??? Yeah, if you look elsewhere thru the archives you will find that the Pentagon admitted to having flown over 30,000 "sorties" (bombing mission) over Iraq... When you find the date of that post then please post it and then I'll do some research and provide the source of that claim... I have never shied away from correcting my assertions when either I have misread something or found it not to be true... Big deal... Yes, it is my memory that the number os bombing missions (sortied) was reptroted to be over 30,000... Now, as for Fantz: I don't get it... Are you saying that if a man supports Obama, or rises up to defend Obama from attacks, then he is a sexist??? I just don't get this "sexist jerks" thing, FtP??? Maybe you should start a "Sexist Mudcat Jerks" thread so that the men here whjo disagree with you can be officiallly outted in your own thread... I mean, I could be saying that folks who attack Obama are "racist jerks" as my argument for supporting Obama but I am not doing that because it would be bopth wrong and rather juvenilistic... What else??? Hmmmmm??? That covers it for now... B~ No it doesn't... What about women who support Obama, Fantz??? Are they sexist jerks, too??? Yeah, that covers it... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Wolfgang Date: 20 May 08 - 12:01 PM The 3,000 "Patriots" (Ha!) expected to be launched in the 1st 48 hours against Iraq don't care about women and children either. ...manipulation of people using such and some 3,000 Patriot missles raining down on Bagdad in the first 48 hours. Hey, when Bush get past the first 48 hours and has rained some 3000 Patriots down on Bagdad ...when I inadvertantly posted "Patriots" instead of "Tomahwaks" (all quotes Bobert, Feb 2003) The 30,000 Patriots was never stated... I said 30,000 bombs... (Bobert, 2008) Wolfgang (fond of errors of memory) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Fantasma Date: 20 May 08 - 08:28 AM Hey, I know! How about the Mudcat resident sexist jerks stop making references to women being mentally ill? Wouldn't that be refreshing? Or here is another one--how about they stop making references to women (especially Hillary) being crazy, irrational, etc! How about it fellas? It is called playing fair. Are the three of you willing to do it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: beardedbruce Date: 20 May 08 - 08:17 AM Reason Hillary goes on- Washington Post "Now, let me purge this formula of its gender implications. Let me suggest that pride, honor and a sort of unforgiving toughness are not male or female qualities. They are the qualities of leaders. It's hard to imagine Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir or Indira Gandhi doing a Tammy Wynette -- standin' by her man. They might well have done so, but the reason we have a difficult time picturing such a thing is that they had leadership qualities that, whether male or female, suggest otherwise. Hillary Clinton is now exhibiting those leadership qualities. In rejecting the chorus of demands that she get out of the race, she is acting as any leader would. Take a tour of statues throughout the world, and, while you will find monuments to plenty of historical figures who lost battles, you will find none to "A Gracious Loser." As Vince Lombardi or Leo Durocher -- both famous for mythical statements about winning and losing -- could have told you, there is no such thing as a gracious loser. You lose hard. You lose tough. You lose only when you are beaten. In the end, no one begrudges a bitter-ender. Robert E. Lee is not vilified because he fought on too long, wasting lives -- and all of it, mind you, in the cause of slavery. In Israel, Masada is venerated because the zealots held out and killed themselves rather than surrender. Thermopylae is not considered a defeat but a lesson to us all: Never give up! This is precisely what Hillary Clinton is doing. She is staying in the race because losing comes soon enough, anyway, and life teaches that anything can happen. Sure, she's hurting the Democratic Party a bit, and, sure, she's inflicting some damage on Barack Obama. He will not only hear echoes of Clinton's attacks out of the mouth of John McCain, but on the Internet and elsewhere they will be recycled so that Clinton herself will be the attacker. Nothing dies on YouTube. But in the end, when Obama is crowned king of the Democrats, Clinton will throw her arms around him and the music will swell and the crowds will cheer -- and everything will be forgotten. And when that happens, Hillary Clinton -- who will be only 65 in 2012 and four years after that still will be younger than McCain is now -- will be positioned to run for president, not as someone's wife, but as a gritty fighter who just would not quit." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 20 May 08 - 08:08 AM Well, just a side bar on the Portland, Oregon gathering... You know that Oregon is the cannibus central state I heard they had "Stoned for Barak" promo spots on the radio... My son, Will-to-me-Ben-to-everyone-else(don't-ask), lives in Portland and I'm sure he would have shown up if he thought there would be lots of smoke in the air... I mighta, too, come to think about it... Bobert (Stoners 4 Obama Unite) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: GUEST,Fantasma Date: 20 May 08 - 08:08 AM It isn't about what Obama is saying. It is about what his throngs want to hear. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Charley Noble Date: 20 May 08 - 07:39 AM Thanks, Little Hawk, for the clarification: "He's just making a joke that is a reference to some disagreements he has with Fantasma about whether or not people are idolizing Obama too much" There is that danger, with over 75,000 people showing up at the Portland, Oregon, rally. That's major rock star attendance, and there certainly would be some risk that such attention might go to Obama's head. Other heads have "rolled" in similar circumstances. But I still prefer to think that Obama will avoid that "box" as well. Certainly he should enjoy the moment, as he clearly did, but keep focused on all the other things that need to get done. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Teribus Date: 20 May 08 - 02:31 AM "This isn't a bloody Whitehall military intelligence briefing here, it's just chitchat on Mudcat Cafe. Not a lot of difference..." - MGOH Now that Little Hawk IS funny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: heric Date: 19 May 08 - 09:53 PM Do you got any biscuits for sale in there? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: CarolC Date: 19 May 08 - 09:41 PM This could be a very good thing, though. It might help clear up the problems of the many people in this country who don't have access to adequate mental health care. If Hillary were to do what Bobert has suggested, all anyone would have to do to get access to mental health care is to tell the intake person that he or she is an Obama supporter. Could work! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Little Hawk Date: 19 May 08 - 09:25 PM He's just making a joke that is a reference to some disagreements he has with Fantasma about whether or not people are idolizing Obama too much, Charley. That's all there is to it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Emma B Date: 19 May 08 - 09:03 PM like the man said :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Charley Noble Date: 19 May 08 - 08:43 PM I'm thoroughly confused. Bobert- What were you endeavoring to say? I suppose I could scroll up to your first post but it's soooo farrrr away! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Emma B Date: 19 May 08 - 08:01 PM OK I confess I iz mudpussy :) Seriously folks it is 'humour' although the 'guest' post Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts' From: GUEST,Jewish/Arab woman again - PM Date: 18 May 08 - 05:20 PM that is allowed to remain is anything but! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 19 May 08 - 07:55 PM I musta missed somethin'... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Hillary to Offer Rehab to Obama-heads... From: Bobert Date: 19 May 08 - 07:35 PM I'll be the first to admit that we don't have the goods drugs 'round here that allows me to know what Fantz is talkin' about... (Normal, Boberdz...) Nevermind... |
