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Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy

connieleemarie 14 Jun 08 - 05:15 AM
Jack Campin 14 Jun 08 - 02:13 PM
nutty 14 Jun 08 - 02:42 PM
connieleemarie 17 Jun 08 - 04:19 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 17 Jun 08 - 05:21 PM
Jack Campin 17 Jun 08 - 05:39 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 17 Jun 08 - 06:24 PM
GUEST,Bernie 17 Jun 08 - 06:50 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 17 Jun 08 - 08:36 PM
Jim Dixon 20 Jun 08 - 05:55 AM
Jim Dixon 20 Jun 08 - 06:12 AM
GUEST,Katty Anne McCloskey 25 May 16 - 04:37 PM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: connieleemarie
Date: 14 Jun 08 - 05:15 AM

Today I heard a song titled 'Goodnight and Joy' from a 1986 CD - "Singing Land' by Dougie Maclean.
The song is also included on a Putamayo compilation CD called 'Celtic Dreamland'.

I'm wondering if anyone knows if 'Goodnight and Joy' is a traditional Scottish song.
I've looked all over the internet for the song's history or lyrics unsuccessfully.

On Dougie's website it is unclear if that particular song is an original or traditional,
although it sounds like it may be a traditional song.

Goodnight and Joy is the last music clip on this page:
http://www.ruralimage.com/acatalog/SINGING_LAND.html


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: Jack Campin
Date: 14 Jun 08 - 02:13 PM

My first reply vanished

My browser can't do anything with .m3u files, so I'll guess. If it's "Goodnight and [joy/God] be with you all", it's a Scottish song whose tune is known from the early 17th century (Skene MS) and for which words were first published by Walter Scott. There are many 19th century Scottish adaptations, and it was popularized in the Irish music world by some group of the 1970s as "The Parting Glass" (with words not very different from Scott's and the tune identical to the Scottish one as sung around 1800).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: nutty
Date: 14 Jun 08 - 02:42 PM

I listened to the MP3 and it definitely is not The Parting Glass. In fact not a song I have heard before - very nice song though, from the little bit I did hear


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: connieleemarie
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 04:19 PM

I contacted Dougie's website here's what they said:

We'll get the lyrics of Dougie's version of
Goodnight & Joy up onto his website www.dougiemaclean.com ...over the
next few days.
It is a traditional song, with the original lyrics by Robert Burns I
think...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 05:21 PM

The poem "Goodnight and Joy" by *Robert Burns, may be found at In Memory

1
The year's wearin' tae the wane
And day is fadin west awa
Out raves the torrent and the rain
And dark the cloud comes down the shaw
Let the tempest taut and blaw
Upon his loudeswinter horn
Goodnight and joy be with you all
We'll maybe meet again the morn.

Two more verses, which I will post, if wanted.

*I couldn't find this in my volume of Burns. Anyone know anything about it?
Couldn't find it in google, either.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: Jack Campin
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 05:39 PM

It seems to be by James Hogg. See this thread:

thread.cfm?threadid=63989

The tune seems to be related to The Haughs of Cromdale, the first part anyway.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 06:24 PM

Yes, the same song as the one credited to James Hogg, the same three verses. Only a word or two different.
Thanks for that.
The McCalman's album has it, and there is a bio by them at www.theballadeersscotland.com/MACS_D14_ettrick.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: GUEST,Bernie
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 06:50 PM

I have a variant of it on the 1984 LP "The Misty Mountain",by Scottish singers/players Billy Jackson and Billy Ross...
The liner notes just say "based on the "traditional" song of the same title,which was the work of a variety of authors.....written by Billy Ross to the tune of Lady Scott's "Durrisdeer"

GUID NICHT AND JOY BE WI' YE A'

The nicht is wearin'tae the wane
and day fades fast awa'
cauld blaws the wind on every stane
and dark the cloud cams doon the shaw

CHORUS

But let the wild winds toot and howl
another drappie 'caw
we'll hae a toast tae ye ma friens
Guid nicht and joy be wi' ye a'

For we hae travelled far and near
Ower mony's the frith and fell
and bonnie lassies we hae seen
tae kiss them,aye,and loe them well

We've drunk oor fill in hoose and ha'
blythe as beggars on the way
aftimes we drank a drap ower much
Aye,and lived tae fecht anither day


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 08:36 PM

Whoever wrote it, Hogg or Anon., it seems to have fathered several interesting variations.


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Subject: Lyr Add: GOOD NIGHT AND JOY BE WI' YOU A'
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:55 AM

Here's one old version that is quite similar to what Dougie Maclean sings in the excerpt. From Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine, 1828, where it appears as part of a sort of play called "Noctes Ambrosianae", with no attribution:

GOOD NIGHT AND JOY BE WI' YOU A'.

THE night is wearing to the wane,
And daylight glimmering east awa';
The little sternies dance amain,
And the moon bobs aboon the shaw.
But though the tempest tout an' blaw
Upon his loudest midnight horn,
Good night an' joy be wi' you a',
We'll maybe meet again the morn.

O, we hae wander'd far and wide,
O'er Scotia's land of firth and fell;
And mony a bonny flower we've pu'd,
And twined them wi' the heather bell
We've ranged the dingle and the dell,
The hamlet and the Baron's ha',
Now let us take a kind farewell,—
Good night and joy be wi' you a'.

Ye hae been kind as I was keen,
And follow'd where I led the way,
Till ilka poet's love we've seen
Of this and mony a former day.
If e'er I led your steps astray,
Forgie your Minstrel aince for a';
A tear fa's wi' his parting lay,—
Good night an' joy be wi' you a'.

Omnes—Gude nicht and joy be wi' us a'.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 06:12 AM

I'd better post this before I lose the information—

A difficulty I had while searching for this song was the many possible spelling variations:

Good/Gude night/nicht and/an [joy be] with/wi you/ye all/a

Ringing all the changes, that makes a total of 64 possible ways of spelling the whole title, not counting variations in punctuation. (Search engines usually ignore punctuation anyway.)

While using Google Book Search, and looking only at "full view" books, I found the following variants. Each is followed by its number of occurrences.

"Good night and joy be wi you a" - 142
"Good night and joy be wi ye a" - 80
"Good night and joy be with you all" - 41
"Gude night and joy be wi you a" - 39
"Gude nicht and joy be wi you a" - 32
"Good night an joy be wi you a" - 19
"Gude nicht and joy be wi ye a" - 16
"Gude night and joy be wi ye a" - 16
"Good night and joy be wi you all" - 14
"Gude nicht an joy be wi ye a" - 8
"Good night and joy be with you a" - 5
"Gude night an joy be wi you a" - 3
"Good night and joy be with ye all" - 2
"Good nicht and joy be wi ye a" - 1
"Good night and joy be with ye a" - 1
"Gude night an joy be wi ye a" - 1
"Gude night an joy be wi you all" - 1
"Gude night and joy be with you all" - 1

Of course, not every occurrence of the phrase corresponds to a complete song text.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy
From: GUEST,Katty Anne McCloskey
Date: 25 May 16 - 04:37 PM

Does anyone have the chords for chords to the Billy Ross version of Guid Nicht And Joy Be With You All. I would also like to know where I could find that version in a recording

Thanks
Katty-Anne


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