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Subject: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 08:10 AM

I have only one. I know some people who own two. I don't know anyone who doesn't know how many homes they own. So, is McCain too rich to be president or just senile?


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: MaineDog
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 08:25 AM

Well, let's see, if I count my boat and my tent and my RV, I guess I have 6 houses, so I can volunteer to be veep.
MD


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 08:30 AM

Hey Dog no fair counting the barn and pump house.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: MaineDog
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 08:34 AM

aww shucks, that leaves me with only the outhouse.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 09:37 AM

Actually, I'm sure he knew the answer was seven, but under the circumstances he hesitated to say so, hoping the subject would go away.

I really don't think the whole thing makes a hill of beans. There's much more important issues and subjects surrounding the election campaign.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 09:39 AM

Well, I've got this house. And the house I live in. And the house my wife lives in. And the house we both live in. And the house we live in together. If you count the two tents we have three, but I usually don't count the tents.

I know some people who have a cabin up in the mountains, but I wouldn't call that a "house" exactly...not like the ones I saw up on Coeur d'Alene with "For Sale" signs on them.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 10:13 AM

3 of those homes are investment properties one of which is a parking lot. That leaves two homes that may be rented. WHO LIVES THERE?

A good reporter would find out what kind of landlord the McCan'ts really are....unless the renter has already been bought off.
Are they renting to the Saudi Royal family or Keating andhow much is the rent????????????


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 10:50 AM

Apparently four houses are "residences" -- which (sadly) makes sense to me in their situation (or at least 3 of them):

- One in Virginia, for the D.C. life
-Two in Arizona: one in Phoenix for work, one in Sedona for cool getaways (believe me, most of us would, if we could)
- One in California: presumably related to the wife's business/family connections?

If you've got the cash... it must be nice!

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 10:55 AM

Supposedly some of them have been bought for their kids.

From HERE:

Those real estate holdings include a Sedona ranch with three dwellings, worth $1.1 million; a Phoenix condominium suite that had originally been two units, worth $4.7 million; an $847,800 three-bedroom high-rise condo in Arlington; an oceanfront condo in La Jolla, Calif.; a half-million-dollar loft in Phoenix purchased for their daughter Meghan; another Phoenix condo, worth $830,000; and two beachfront condos in Coronado, Calif, one of which is valued at $2.7 million. The other was purchased just this year, as McCain was lamenting the difficulties that struggling Americans were facing just to make their mortgage payments. Cindy McCain told Vogue magazine the family needed the second condo because the first was getting too crowded as their family grew.

McCain's confusion could be rooted in the scattered nature of the family's holdings. Public records show they were purchased by various McCain family entities, with names such as Dream Catcher Family LLC and Wild River LLC, and at least one is listed as rental real estate.


This guy even sounds like the shrub!:

Saturday night, during an appearance with the Rev. Rick Warren, an evangelical leader, McCain was asked to define the word "rich" and responded: "I think if you are just talking about income, how about $5 million?" Warren and the audience laughed, and McCain quickly added: "But seriously, I don't think you can -- I don't think seriously that -- the point is that I'm trying to make here, seriously -- and I'm sure that comment will be distorted -- but the point is that we want to keep people's taxes low and increase revenues."


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: PoppaGator
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:00 AM

A lot of my neighbors own two-family houses ("double shotguns") and rent one half while living in the other. Does owning two units count as multiple-house ownership?

In many cases, the mortgages have been paid off for more than a generation, and the owners' incomes are pretty meager ~ easily too low to qualify for any mortgage if they had to buy into the housing market today.

These half-house units are generally about 1,000 sq ft or smaller, with no closets, tiny single baths, and no privacy ~ you walk through one room after another to get from the front door to the back, hence the name "shotgun." The rent for the tenant-half is well less than $1000/month, even after post-Katrina inflation driven by the housing shortage. (Rents that used to average around $400-500 are now in the $600-700 range.)

I know that these owner/landlords are not "rich" by McCain's recent definition, but are they even middle-class, by anyone's standards?

We own a little single house; no rental income, no hassles either. Thanks to adequate flood insurance, the mortgage is paid off; well, the first mortgage, anyway. I know how many properties I own, and I know I'm not rich by anyone's definition.

I won't be voting for the rich guy, not that it matters. I read in this morning's paper that Obama isn't even going to bother campaigning in Louisiana; the Dems are conceding our state as indelibly "red." Thanks to the Electoral College setup, my vote is very unlikely to mean a thing. As a poll commissioner, I'll be at the polling place all day long anyway, so I'll cast my useless little symbolic vote, just for fun. But I can certainly understand why some people feel like "Why bother?"


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: pdq
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:00 AM

If John McCain and his wife earned the money honestly, either through work or investments, then what they do with it is their business. Buying an extra home was a good idea a few years ago because real property was always going up in value. That is not so good right now due to the fact that the real estate market in most parts of the country is moribund.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:05 AM

Of course it's their business PDG - except that his side is trying to paint Obama as an elitist.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Amos
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:08 AM

Another point to be made about this, possibly more tot he point. If he doesn't know off hand how many he has, he's not, probably, the drivig force in acquiring them, but his wife is. Although he was fearless in the hands of the North Vietnamese, it is possible that domestic confrontations are a different story.

We aren't electing her, of course, but the question does have to be raised:

Is John McCain Pussy-Whipped????





A


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:15 AM

Amos - You're saying that like being pussy whipped is a BAD thing. In the proper context........


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:16 AM

My sister owns 6 (or 7) houses. Does that disqualify her from being president?   What a freaking non-issue!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: pdq
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:16 AM

But Obama is an elitist. So was FDR. So are thousands Republicans, too. Is this childish "gotcha" crap all the presidential campaign is going to be about? I want to know the plan to fix Social Security, protect the borders, clean up government waste and fraud, and perhaps a few ideas about energy and environment. Is that too much to ask the Black Messiah? -
    So, OK, pdq, you made your point about the "Black Messiah" in at least two threads. I think that's enough. If you use it more, people will rightly call you a racist, and I'll have to take action. Thanks. -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: DMcG
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:33 AM

I suppose you could stretch a point and say I am unsure. I actually own one house, which my sons live in. I rent another, which I and my wife live in. For both of those, we pay the council tax. I also pay the rent for yet another, which my daughter lives in but all the paperwork is in her name. She is a student and the sole occupant so she is exempt from council tax, but if she wasn't, she would pay the council tax on that one. So you could get different answers depending on what the precise question you asked was ...


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:40 AM

It's not so much that he has that many, it's 1) that he didn't know and 2) that he has no clue of how the economy effects the average American, i.e. he is not the ordinary guy-maverick he'd like everyone to believe 3) one more sign that he is not very clear in his thinking and, imo, is unfit to lead.

Donuel, I like that "McCant!"


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Emma B
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:43 AM

'Last month, Obama drew a line as he tried to quiet political attacks against his own wife, Michelle.
"I've said this before: I would never have my campaign engage in a concerted effort to make Cindy McCain an issue, and I would not expect the Democratic National Committee or people who were allied with me to do it," he told women's magazine Glamour in an interview to run in the October issue. "Because essentially, spouses are civilians. They didn't sign up for this. They're supporting their spouse."'

The McCains' properties are in the name of Cindy McCain, her dependent children and family-controlled trusts or companies.'

Wall St Journal

who also point out that John Kerry, the Democratic nominee, had five different addresses at mansions valued at some $33 million.
All but one was in the name of his wife, Theresa Heinz Kerry, the Heinz food products heiress.

Thank heavens this kind of mutual mud slinging will be soon be over.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: John Hardly
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:50 AM

Thanks for saving me the typing, Emma B. If you aren't digging for mud to sling, you probably won't find it. The properties are Cindy McCain, from whom comes the wealth.

Obama at least comes by his property the honorable Chicago politician way -- he buys it from his neighbor Tony Rezko. Well, the guy who WAS Obama's neighbor until Rezko's end of such deals landed him in prison.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:54 AM

It's the perception, folks...what McCain wants people to see him as and what he really is. This kind of information shows him up for who he really is.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:55 AM

So the answer should have been "I don't own any".

I too can't wait for this campaign to be over. The mail and the phone calls are driving me nuts. My last conversation with a Democratic fund raiser started off with "The Republicans are destroying...". I cut her off and pointed out that the Republicans could have done none of this if the Democrats hadn't supported them with their votes. I told her that both parties are equally corrupt and then hung up. I am sick of them all.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: John Hardly
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 12:08 PM

"I am sick of them all."

Me to. I won't be voting this fall. Let's have a hootenany instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 12:15 PM

Your place or mine, John?


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: John Hardly
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 12:20 PM

Let's meet in the middle and drag as many people with us as we can. :^)


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Amos
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 12:24 PM

PDQ:

If you bothered to listen to or read his platform, you wouldn't be asking.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: pdq
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 12:24 PM

Perhaps you can have the hootnanny in honor of "presidents named Rooseveldt"? Franklin for Democrats and Theodore for Republicans. Nope, they just ain't making 'em like they used to.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:04 PM

"So the answer should have been "I don't own any"."

He was asked specifically how many he AND his wife owned.


I have read an article that included one that he is paying the taxes on for a relative ( Aunt?)




So, the two questions I now have are

1. How many houses/properties does Obama and his wife have

2. Is Barack Obama Pussy-Whipped????


If they are appropriate to ask of McCain, they must be OK to ask of Obama, as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Emma B
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:07 PM

OHHHHH! a

hoot 'n nanny

Can I come too? :)


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:15 PM

There's always my van when the going gets tough, and our storage unit!

Anyone remember Charlie King's tribute to rental storage units?

Words and music by Charlie King © 1986
Recorded on Feelings of Fire
Flying Fish FF 417

Self-Storage

Did you ever stop to wonder how you ever get by,
When the cookie jar is empty and the pie is in the sky?
When you hear the wolf a-knockin', and your money's running out,
And you're trying to make a chowder from your last mung sprout,
Did you ever stop to wonder where you'd lay your weary head,
When your closet's goin' condo and your ink's running red?
When you're standing in the bread line, out of dough and into debt,
And you're dodgin' bodies dropping through the gapin' safety net?
When the trickle down is fickle, and supply ain't on your side,
Then it's time for you to join me for an early morning ride –
To Bridgeport, Connecticut,
Where destitution and persecution,
Find a home-grown, sure-fire, free-market solution.

I was drivin' down the highway, it was I-95;
I was wonderin' how so many of us manage to survive,
Gettin' older, gettin' colder, out of fashion, out of cash,
Gettin' laid off, never paid off, gettin' sick, and gettin' trashed;
I was steamin' into Bridgeport when a building hove in view,
Just an old abandoned factory but the paint was bright and new,
A long abandoned factory where you once could earn a buck,
Till the firm ran out of country and the workers out of luck;
Emblazoned on that factory in letters tall as me
Was a sign that hawked what had to be a growing industry,
The solution for the unemployed, the old, the sick, the poor,
Where the private sector lifts its lamp beside the factory door;
And what that sign said,
And what my eyes read,
Was Self-Storage.
I said "Self-Storage"? Uh huh, eight bucks a month.

Now suppose you've given up you'll ever find a decent job;
You're too smart to play the lottery, too virtuous to rob,
You're too rich to be on welfare, too poor to buy a meal,
Here's a neat and simple answer to the misery you feel;
A hundred bucks per annum is a price we all can pay,
Check out for a decade? Why not stow yourself away?
Don't be hangin' on the corner; don't be rapping on the stoop;
Don't be litterin' the lines for unemployment checks and soup;
The rich have themselves frozen if they're terminally ill;
Why not put yourself in storage if you can't afford your bill?
If your sector isn't growing; if you fail to pull your weight;
Why, just back into a closet, shut the light, lock the gate;
Say you voted for a tax cut but it only helped the rich,
Or you tried to be a Yuppie but designer jeans don't fit,
Or you lusted to be better off and couldn't ease the itch,
There's a factory in Bridgeport where you're sure to find your niche;
Four by four, got a lock on the door,
And friends, what's more,
Now they've got a name for it.
Call it: Self-Storage.

At first it seems so strange, locked in dark and tiny places,
In this land of far horizons, new frontiers, open spaces;
But on second thought you'll find that it's as common as can be:
In the nursing home, the flop house, or the penitentiary;
Why there's folks right now in storage in this homeland of the free,
And if they can learn to live with it, then why not you and me;
It's just a change of attitude; it all comes down to style;
You can live within your limits, love the lock and crack a smile;
A bright image, a new package, Self-Storage is the rage;
We'll be driftin' up in droves to be driven to a cage,
With a Pac-Man pleasure center, nutrition substitutes,
And the Cabbage Patch edition of Trivial Pursuits;
I can't wait till they inaugurate promotional campaigns,
With a slogan aimed at any nagging fear that still remains:
"I'd rather be in Storage, wouldn't you?"
"If you were in Storage, you'd be home now too!"
"Into the closet and out of the street!"
"Home Sweet Storage can't be beat!"
So if you're running out of luck and you don't know what to do,
Your entitlement's been cut and you don't know what to do,
Or your golden goose is plucked and you don't know what to do,
Remember, you got a friend in Bridgeport;
If you can't beg, steal, borrow, or forage,
Join the millions of Americans in safe Self-Storage,
"Please, just lock me away..."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: PoppaGator
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:38 PM

Earlier this a.m., I was bemoaning the fact that my vote won't mean shit, because Presidential elections are decided state-by-state, winner-take-all for each state's electoral votes, and my state is viewed by both parties as a foregone conclusion. (An easy win for one, a hopeless case for the other.)

After reading Sinsulls' complaint ~ "I too can't wait for this campaign to be over. The mail and the phone calls are driving me nuts." ~ I'm rethinking my position. Now I realize that I should be glad that I've been cast to the wayside by this interminable, irritating, and essentially boring process. It's actually a privilege to be a bystander, interested or disintereted according to my whim at any given monent, and left alone.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:50 PM

Anyone capable of making a serious run at the presidency of the United States is, in some regard, an elitist. It comes with the territory. It's simply not possible to elect a true "commoner" to high political office. All we common rabble can do is try to pick the elitist best able to empathize with our lowly plight. We're sure as hell never gonna get a chance to vote for anyone who actually experiences it.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: mg
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:56 PM

For heavens sake...why should he know how many houses he has if some at least are investments. HIs wife is a businesswoman. They could have property managers and accountants etc. to handle the details. I can easily see losing count after a few. I am not being sarcastic. I don't think this proves or suggests anything one way or the other. It is not a revelation that he is married to a very wealthy woman. They often have property. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: GUEST,Jim Dixon
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 02:43 PM

If somebody asked me that same question, I'd have trouble, too.

I and my wife own, jointly, the house we both live in--that's one.

Then there's the cabin. My name isn't on the deed at all. My wife owns it jointly with her sister; they inherited it from their grandfather, who built it. But we treat it as "ours." We spend a lot of time there in the summer and pay for most of the upkeep.

So I can truthfully say I own only one house. But if I were in politics, someone would probably accuse me of a cover-up.

I can understand McCain's hesitancy. It's probably a complicated situation that would be difficult to explain, and he wasn't prepared. If he says anything untrue, he'd never hear the end of it.

None of that changes the fact that he IS rich, however.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 03:04 PM

There have been rich Democrats, as well as rich Republicans.....if fact MOST possible candidates are likely to be quite well-off. (Edwards & the Clintons & Romney had LOTS of money)I don't really care how many houses they have, although I thought McCain sounded awkward & silly trying to escape answering.

I AM tired of all the irrelevant issues being used to cloud the issue of what will happen if certain candidates are elected.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 03:23 PM

A stupid issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 03:47 PM

They discussed the topic this morning on the Diane Rehm show on her Friday News Roundup segment.

Apparently part of the confusion comes from the property they own in Sedona. They owned a home there and over time have purchased the surrounding homes on their cul-de-sac. He wasn't sure how many of those neighbor's homes they had purchased. Sounds kind of like the Reagan compound in California (a bunch of cottages on the property--and the Reagans lived in three of them)--when they have guests they put them in one of the former neighbor's houses. Kind of ostentatious way to avoid making guests sleep on the couch or pull out the dusty futon in the office, but if you have the bucks, why not?

Link to her program. If you visit after today, or many after Sunday, you'll have to go into the past programs for the Aug. 22 edition.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: pdq
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 04:28 PM

Perhaps the McCains just have a lot of friends who need to be "put up" once in a while. The Reagans did.

BTW, several of his wife's houses have her relatives living in them. They both take care of their friends and family. Hardly a fault.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 04:40 PM

Again, the fault lies with McCain claiming the economy is healthy and that he is one of us. He obviously is out of touch with reality when it comes to average America and the economy and he is obviously NOT in the ranks of working class Americans nor does he understand what they are going through. The houses he and his wife own just show up those glaring inconsistencies in his claims and rhetoric.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 05:02 PM

I'm not a McCain supporter, by any means, but I just don't find the houses to be an issue. Rich people own a lot of stuff. He could do worse than to own houses (though right now, in this market, it is something people will look at as suspect. He probably gets up in the morning and looks in the mirror and, like visualizing himself as a younger man, probably also visualizes himself as Everyman.

We owned two houses when I was growing up, a cabin my father inherited from his father, and the house our family lived in most of the year. The summers were magical in the cabin because it was at the remote end of a large lake in Northwestern Washington. I doubt I'd ever be in a position to own a second house, but given that experience as a child, I'd love someplace like that to retreat to part of the year.

That said, there was an interesting discussion this week on Marketplace (PRI or NPR) about how Flagstaff, Arizona is growing so much because people like it and want a part of it. People who spent some time there are now buying houses and condos to spend more time there, but they are finding that the "human capital" they bring doesn't fit in the marketplace too well. And along with all of those extra people are the things that make Flagstaff look like everyplace else, Starbucks, Blockbuster, fast food. It has always been there to some degree supported by the smaller population, but as that population explodes the new stuff makes Flag look like everywhere else.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: pdq
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 05:55 PM

From the song "Paradise" by the Eagles: "kiss it goodby".


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Barry Finn
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 06:28 PM

I've a 1st cousin who has 3 mansions, 2 of them are by the sea & he's at least got 2 other houses, he may have more that I don't know about. He's so very rich that he probably doesn't know how much money he really has but he's also very smart, he knows how many houses he owns, he'll vote republican cause he wants to keep all that he's got & he doesn't want the public to know what he owns. He doesn't want the job of P or VP, people will ask questions that he knows the answers to, he's smart like that.
If you don't know the answers & you aren't all that very smart & you do own a lot of houses but don't know how many or maybe you don't want to know how many so you don't have to answer questions the maybe you should run for the jobs in question.

He should've known some one was gonna ask the questions, he sould've had the foresight, he doesn't have all the answers does he? Even the simple ones! He can't keep an eye on his owns houses, how's he gonna keep an eye on the big one on the hill?

He should've known better.

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 06:33 PM

As someone above so wisely mentioned, anyone who's a serious candidate for the presidency is
A) Rich (or VERY well off)
    and
B) Has A LOT of high roller moneyed friends.

That's not a selection criterion.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 08:32 PM

Hey Barry - does your cousin play the banjo??????


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 08:46 PM

Yeah, just who is the "elitist" now, John Boy???

I mean, lets get real here,folks... The McCain people must think that Obama and his folks are "stupid"??? Where did they get that idea??? He beat the Clinton machine, didn't he??? Yeah, McCain's people must have thought that Obama was goin' to do the rope-a-dope right up to the election... Talk about stupid???

I think that McCain would be smart to look at "house-gate" and realize that if it's an old fashioned no holds barred behibnd the barn that Obama has alot more stuff than McCain... But I don't think McCain, or his handlers, are all that smart...

Yeah, I'd love to see the campaign get to issues but looks as if MCCain has no interest in issues whats so ever...

For Obama supporters liked house-gate then fasten your seatbelts 'cause from here out McCain ain't gettin' anymore feebees... He will pay fro every attack from now to Noevemebr and there's alot of skeitons in his closet...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 04:20 PM

Lou Dobbs:

"How dare Obama attack McCain's wife Cindy in such a despicable way.
What does one's spouse's family have to do with the honorable leadership of John McCain? Its shameful just shameful"

--


Low, get a life. You're sounding more alien everyday.



I dare say the silly accusation of Obama being a snobby elitist is now a dead issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 04:23 PM

I want to hear about the TSA war with Brazil over finger printing and strip searches. Did you get hassled at customs?


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: heric
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 04:48 PM

There is insufficient data for a meaningful answer.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 05:19 AM

McCain should have had an answer. It was a forseeable question and he is running for President. It not only shows that he is out of touch. It shows that he is not inclined to do thorough preparation for his job. When the three AM phone call comes, he won't be able to say "I'll have to check with my staff." especially since he may not yet be able to tell the difference between Al Qaeda in Iraq and Shiite insurgents or between the Sunni Awakening and The Bush Troop Surge.

Even if the answer was "My wife takes care of that." Or "Four that we actually live in." Or even "What has that got to do with anything?" Or "None of your business." He should have had an answer.

The answer he gave shows a lack of preparation and a lack of professionalism.


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Subject: RE: BS: How many houses does it take to....
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 04:15 PM

Good op/ed piece HERE:

excerpt speaking on McCain: From this perspective, the problem isn't that he's rich. It's that his wealth is part of a package that strongly suggests he can't relate to the economic struggles faced by so many people from households that don't reside in the top "fractiles" of the income distribution. And if you can't relate, you're much less likely to craft and move a policy agenda that will help, a shortcoming we've seen much too much of in recent years.


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