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Subject: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor Date: 27 Aug 08 - 06:59 PM What a relief! Hillary has had another moment but interrupting the roll call, and asking that Obama be accepted by acclamation. Not much suspense but nice theater never the less. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:05 PM He's the first non white ever to get this far. He's fulfilling the dream of the civil rights movement. Please on this thread, let us celebrate this accomplishment. Congratulations Barack Obama! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Bobert Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:17 PM Ditto... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Alice Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:30 PM Historic moment. Many people were in tears with the emotion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Peace Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:31 PM Ditto the ditto. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Dani Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:33 PM I am missing ALL the fun without a TV, damnit. Will be with a group of volunteers to watch tomorrow night, though. I have goosebumps on my goosebumps. Dani |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Ebbie Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:34 PM Forty years ago who would have guessed. The women's rights movement took far longer. Maybe we're getting smarter? Congratulations to us all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: katlaughing Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:40 PM Yes!!! AND, there are more women delegates than men...another historic first! Dani, you can watch it live online at Cspan.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Miner633 Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:48 PM I am happy for you all and feel this guy is both genuine and sincere, but and it's a big but in the PC mine field. Will he actually get into office ? and if so would he not be at great risk from some racist nutter ? Is America ready for the change ? Personally I think the conservative Republican party or some straight laced group will wreck the guys plans. I repeat, I find him solid and upfront, good luck to him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Bill D Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:53 PM It is only a matter of time before a woman IS in that spot. (I would have voted for Barbara Jordan years ago, if I could, and hit both 'firsts' at one time.) Fewer women run for high office...but that may change also. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor Date: 27 Aug 08 - 08:07 PM Dani watch it here if you have high speed internet. Melissa Etherige is kicking ass right now! A medley of God Bless America, The times are a changing, Born in the USA. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: katlaughing Date: 27 Aug 08 - 08:18 PM Melissa was fantastic!! Beautiful medley. You can hear my over-one-minute-of-NPR-fame on Talk of the Nation earlier today HERE. In the first segment, I start at about 25:08. Be sure to listen past when he starts to say thanks and goodbye. I got a little bit more in there!:-) It's what Obama is all about, for me! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Amos Date: 27 Aug 08 - 08:21 PM That was the most awesom moment I've seen in a while, theater or no. The entire building, in one voice, was shaking with the vote of acclaim to name Barack as the nominee. There were tears all over the place, but jubilation as well. It was a real historical salient of great importance. "Obama Wins Nomination by Acclamation Senator Barack Obama, the Hawaiian-born son of a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas, officially become the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party on Wednesday, capping a meteoric rise from a little-known first-term Senator to the first African-American to win a major party nomination. Read More: http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: olddude Date: 27 Aug 08 - 08:29 PM My kid is there right now, worked for Hillary in DC. She has been text messaging. John Kerry and several others are going bike riding with my kids later this week also no joke they are. I thing tonight is Incredible, Moving ... who would have thought, now we get him in office that is the next step and America will be for the people again and not for the wealthy few me thinks. Sanity comes back into the White house is he is elected. I am worried about the swift boat tactics. I sure hope there is a plan because you know that is what they will try and do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor Date: 27 Aug 08 - 08:32 PM CBC Coverage |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Barry Finn Date: 27 Aug 08 - 09:02 PM The swell's arising an' tide's coming in, Can you hear the thunder roar There's lectric lighting in the air The clouds are now off shore Hear the surf & smell the salt There's foam all o're the mouth The winds of change are blowing in North, east, west & south This is the storm we've been hoping for Raise your sheets up to the sky This isn't just a social breeze You can hear the wild winds cry See how the birds come in from sea They trumpet what's to come Land, air & sea are all alike From this blow you cannot run It's 50 years since the sky's been so blue And the sea has been so green This is the dawning of a brand new day I've never been so keen So let the storm pass over us Let the waters rush the land Let us all bathe in the washing Let our hearts beat hard & stand Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: katlaughing Date: 27 Aug 08 - 09:41 PM Kerry is giving points, right now, that will knock any swift boat olddude, good on yer kid and kids!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Bill D Date: 28 Aug 08 - 10:28 AM nuthin' sadder than a carp outta the water..... *ducking for cover* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Aug 08 - 10:33 AM How you wanna catch carp is to be IN a swiftboat, then the ones that follow are not bottom-feeding and thus taste better.... With Bill, ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Teribus Date: 28 Aug 08 - 10:50 AM The title of this thread rather amused me, particularly the exclamation mark. After all what on earth did anybody expect him to do - turn it down - Now that would have deserved the exclamation mark. Sort of about as interesting as the headline: "Dog Bites Man". Interesting times ahead come January 2009. Obama & Biden v Medvedev & Putin, if so my money's on the latter pairing. Now put in McCain & (TBA) as representing the US and there is a chance things may stay on an even keel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Ebbie Date: 28 Aug 08 - 10:51 AM Here's a 4-page article from the current issue of Newsweek. She talks about Obama's 'rock star' image then goes on: "But the truth of the matter is that seen up close, the attraction of Barack Obama as a candidate has less to do with the cut of his suits or the fact that he's championed by hip rock singers than with an almost geeky earnestness, a decency and sobriety that he projects when speaking to a crowd. A large part of his mystique lies in his insistence on his message, and on the complexity of that message; and in his old-fashioned, almost stern will to cut the flim-flam and, in a way so retro it's almost novel, to actually address the issues." A Good Look |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: katlaughing Date: 28 Aug 08 - 10:54 AM Bill, you are officially my editor this week!**bg** Ebbie, thanks! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor Date: 28 Aug 08 - 01:59 PM Why thank you Terribus, The title, with the exclamation mark was meant to amuse. the >>What a relief!<< as the first lines of the thread was meant to be confirmation of the joke for people who who are slower to catch on. >>Interesting times ahead come January 2009. Obama & Biden v Medvedev & Putin, if so my money's on the latter pairing. Now put in McCain & (TBA) as representing the US and there is a chance things may stay on an even keel.<< The problem with US foreign policy for the last 8 years has been trying to stay even with the the likes of Putin. Before Bush stooped to their level, their likes were striving to keep up. The whole world has suffered for America's loss in stature. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Amos Date: 28 Aug 08 - 02:15 PM Make no mistake about Obama. He has the nmettle it will take to deal with Putin's "New Empire" vision. But he will have the decency not to do so with blank bluster and grumpy saber-rattling, in the Bush style. BEcause he's a better man. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor Date: 28 Aug 08 - 02:28 PM Obama will lead by the force of our example rather than the example of our force. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Susu's Hubby Date: 28 Aug 08 - 02:36 PM I think that history has pointed out time and time again that the Russians and the islamic terrorists care more about what is in their best interests than rather what somebody else does by example. If you believe any differently, then you are being sadly misled. Perestroika is over. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: CarolC Date: 28 Aug 08 - 02:49 PM Perestroika may be over, but the US is the country that ended it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Sawzaw Date: 28 Aug 08 - 04:36 PM Ahhhhhhhhh, I think it was George W. Bush who tried to be friends with Vladimir Putin. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Sawzaw Date: 28 Aug 08 - 05:55 PM "Your talent for distorting the truth by sliding it out of all context and twisting it has grown larger with each passing fit, Sawz." In the future, Amos, when O'bama becomes O'bombout and I bring up your statement of fact that "Make no mistake about Obama. He has the nmettle it will take to deal with Putin's "New Empire" vision. But he will have the decency not to do so with blank bluster and grumpy saber-rattling, in the Bush style. BEcause he's a better man." Tell me now what context I need to put in to meet your requirements? You won't brush it off like your previous statements advocatimg summary justice and smart bombs will you? Perhaps you can start by defining exactly what the term "deal with" means. Does it mean Jimmy Carter style appeasement? Helicopters crashing in the desert? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Amos Date: 28 Aug 08 - 06:10 PM "...Tonight, Barack Obama will accept our nomination. It is fitting that a 20,000 seat arena isn't remotely large enough to mark this moment. Even a 75,000 seat stadium will be too small and many will be turned away. Rightwingers will mock the white columns. Everyone else in America and the world will marvel at the black man who stands before them. Incredibly, it was the first viable feminist candidate, Hillary Clinton, who put him over the top. In that single act, the parallel lines of the civil rights and feminist movements met to transform American history. And we did it through the oldest and largest political party in the world - the party that once fought civil rights - our party, the Democratic Party ... The Republican plan is more disastrous war with Iran or Russia; less health care, education, justice and jobs; and environmental catastrophe. The Democratic plan is the opposite: ending war, more health care, education, justice and jobs; and saving the planet before it is too late. That is our choice, and it leaves us no choice. In Berlin Barack Obama declared , "This is the moment when we must come together to save this planet. Let us resolve that we will not leave our children a world where the oceans rise and famine spreads and terrible storms devastate our lands. Let us resolve that all nations - including my own - will act with the same seriousness of purpose as has your nation, and reduce the carbon we send into our atmosphere. This is the moment to give our children back their future. This is the moment to stand as one." He concluded, "People of the world, this is our moment. This is our time." But in reality, it may be our last time. So from now until the last vote is counted and re-counted by hand if need be, we must keep our eyes on the prize and do everything we can to win. ..." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Amos Date: 28 Aug 08 - 06:15 PM Leave the context out, Sawz. Your viion of the truth isn't up to understanding context anyway. In your literal-minded monochromatic world all words are literal words, all statements must be true in or out of context, and nothing is relative. Go off and cheer for yet another aged white man incapable of vision or dynamic growth or change, fixated on the bombast of weaponry and the military mindset. Het, ya never know--the End Times could even start next week, and you would get sucked up to heaven and leave this all behind!! So why bother being accurate? Why bother looking for the good of intelligence, diplomacy, skilled management and diplomacy. Fuck it. Nuke 'em now and ask Jesus for forgiveness. Dweeb. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Susu's Hubby Date: 28 Aug 08 - 07:31 PM "Everyone else in America and the world will marvel at the black man who stands before them." "Go off and cheer for yet another aged white man incapable of vision or dynamic growth or change, fixated on the bombast of weaponry and the military mindset." Amos, Why do you see the need to keep using the terms "white" and "black"? I thought the democratic party didn't dwell on color? Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: CarolC Date: 28 Aug 08 - 07:32 PM Bush may have acted all friendly like with Putin, but while he was doing it, he withdrew from the ABM treaty, and has since then initiated and attempted to initiate other measures that constitute a threat to Russia's national security. Now, we may like to dismiss Russia's concerns by saying that these measures aren't aimed at them (even though they really are), but Russia has no reason to accept these reassurances, and if the shoe were on the other foot, we most certainly would not accept them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Sawzaw Date: 28 Aug 08 - 07:43 PM "In your literal-minded monochromatic world all words are literal words, all statements must be true in or out of context, and nothing is relative." Yet when I put what GWB has done in context with other presidents, You cry foul. Evidently it is you that can only see things literally with no shades of gray between. You constantly accuse those that disagree with you of doing exactly what you are doing but you do not realize it. Your name calling and rhetoric undermine your credibility. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: katlaughing Date: 28 Aug 08 - 07:49 PM Our local NPR had an interesting segment on "Colorado Matters" interviewing foreign journalists who are in Denver, including this fellow. Their take on things was quite interesting. If you go HERE and scroll almost all the way down, you can listen to that segment. Actually, there are a bunch of really good segments. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: Amos Date: 28 Aug 08 - 08:02 PM You don't know or understand the difference between context and mindless conflation, is all. So your alleged "contextual" propositions turn out, instead, to be conflated with identities that are not identical, assertions of irrelevancies as though they were germane, and wrongly-included illogical data. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor Date: 28 Aug 08 - 08:36 PM Sawzaw it is you who has the obsession. You spend an unhealthy amount of time chasing Amos around and naysaying. Do you have some sort of man crush? Do you feel you have been jilted? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: astro Date: 28 Aug 08 - 08:37 PM The truth of the matter is that this particular administration has tried to dictate to the world how to behave while we misbehave...the point is that the world is rising and will follow their own narratives and not ours...GWB has left us with few friends, if fact, typically only paid off friends, and many enemies. Friends and allies now fear us more than our enemies, which leaves us in on our own. It is time for a new politic, not what McCain is offering...send him back to the 50's...Let's go "Rock" Obama into the future!! Astro |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama has accepted the nomination! From: GUEST,Sawzaw Date: 29 Aug 08 - 01:29 PM It is JTS who is obsessed with trying to negate my contributions with his school boy caliber personal attacks in lieu of facts. Just like Amos, you constantly accuse those that disagree with you of doing exactly what you are doing and do not realize it. Do you have anything specific to contribute? Perhaps a definition of "deal with" in relation to Putin's agression? |
