Not bad for an Irish woman (Enya)

Subject: RE: Not bad for an Irish woman
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 07:14 AM

So, standing against bigotry will do 'a thousand times more damage'. Yet in a country where you have just said bigotry and intollerance of incomers is on the increase you advise us to treat derogatory remarks against one such incomer as a bit of fun? Maybe you should tell the O'Reily family that their neighbours don't realy mean anything by it?

thank god it's confined to a handful of cranks.

Amen to that, Jim...

Cheers

Dave

Subject: RE: Not bad for an Irish woman
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 08:29 AM

Dave,
There were two examples of blatantly outspoken racism on the last thread - you and the tiny handful of your supporters chose to let them pass without comment yet persistently flap your arms about and squeal about the Cap'n's 'unfortunate experience - hypocrisy or what?
How dare you compare the two.
I'm off to where the air is cleaner.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Not bad for an Irish woman
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 09:32 AM

Jim,

1. What examples of 'blatently outspoken racism' do you refer to? The term 'examples' usualy comes with, well, examples.

2. I have never flaped my arms about or sqealed in my life. That is a knee jerk statement meant to show me in a bad light. Don't worry, I don't expect an apolgy or retraction, even if it is a personal attack. The people who matter know it isn't true:-)

3. The man who says it is OK to abuse an Englishman and then tells us how bad racisn is in Ireland accuses me of being a hypocrite. I think that speaks for itself.

4. How dare I compare what two? What two things has anyone introduced recently that can bear direct comparison? One half-cocked statement and another maybe?

5. Off to 'where the air is cleaner'. Would that be the Ireland where you admit that 'racism is very much on the increase' or the world of Jim Carrol where stereotyping appears to mean something different to everywhere else? Either way I suppose it is good place to go if you cannot come up with sensible arguments. Good luck to you.

Cheers

DeG

Subject: RE: Not bad for an Irish woman
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 10:07 AM

Try John from Kemsing's last piece of wisdom and Terribus's excusing thuggish behavior by British Troops on the streets of Ireland
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Not bad for an Irish woman
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 10:32 AM

Jim, I responded to John Kemsings 'piece of wisdom' and thanked you for pointing it out. Teribus did not, as far as I am aware, offer any excuses. He pointed out that both sides did bad things and that the PIRA were actualy responsible for more violence than the British Army. How is that racist? Would you consider the statement that the British Empire were responsible for lots of attrocities, as racist? I wouldn't. Pure hostorical fact. I would however say that your statement about most English people being racist was a racist viewpoint. One is fact, the other is not.

Nice to se you back, btw. Was the air not as clean as you thought? :-D

Cheers

DeG

Subject: RE: Not bad for an Irish woman
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 12:42 PM

I can remember a Randy Newman interview a few years ago.

the interviewer - typical BBC type - in a plum job and congratulating himself for his perspicacity and je ne sais quoi, says Mr Newman, in your songs - you seem to be commenting on the way that people from the southern states in the USA, with a deep south accent will be adjuged racist, and unintelligent.

Randy Newman says, well predjudice happens all over the world. It certainly happens here in England. Today I heard someone say ...oh he's from Yorkshire - as though that explains his personality....

BBC man says, that's not the same sort of thing at all!

Randy Newman smiled grimly.

And you could hear all northerners through the ether going - oh yes it is mate!

Subject: RE: Not bad for an Irish woman
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 06:09 PM

Bloody drummers. You can tell when one is at the door. The knocking keeps getting faster and faster...

:D