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The Villan 16 Oct 08 - 10:51 AM
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Subject: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 10:51 AM

Just thought I would ask the question. It may not be possible.

If I create a link to another website in a Mudcat thread, I want it to open in a new window and not in the Mudcat window (if that makes sense). So the person finishes up with the original window for Mudcat and a new one for the website I want them to look at.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 10:56 AM

There's a way to do that which I've blocked out. We had one member who did that with all of his links, and I stopped clicking them because I hated it.

Most browsers allow the user to do that, and I rather like having the choice.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 10:57 AM

If they want this they can right click & choose 'open in new window', although I believe there is a standard way to make it automatic on a left click as well.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 11:05 AM

Instructions Here


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Bernard
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 11:13 AM

Easy... <a target="new" href="http://whatever your URL">(message)</a>

The word "new" can be anything, but must be enclosed in quotes. If you use the same word for more than one link, the link will always open in that window, if open. You can also include title="(description text)" for a mouseover description...

Remember to test it with Preview before you commit!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 12:44 PM

Just testing

(Open in a new window)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 12:50 PM

Thanks everyone and especially Bernard - as you say dead easy

Jeri, the reason why I like it, is that you leave the user with their original website that they were looking at. They can then have a look at the link in another window and close it when they have finished. Obviously coming back to the original window. I already use that technique in my own website, but just wondered if it worked in Mudcat.
I get annoyed at clicking on a link and losing Mudcat. Mind you, I am used to having lots of windows open at the same time.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: MMario
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 12:51 PM

I just right click and "open in new window"


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 12:59 PM

Most new browsers have tabs, which I like very much except when I want to view two windows side-by-side. When I use target="new" - I think it's a new tab that opens. What weill open a new window, and what a new tab?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 01:05 PM

Joe, if you have MSIE or Firefox, go to 'file' in the menu bar and click 'new tab' and see what happens. Can't look at two pages at the same time though.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 01:32 PM

I guess that target="new" opens a new window. I usually right-click all links so I can choose what to do with them, and most often I choose "Open in new tab." Other options are "open in new window" and "open." Jeri, if you always right-click links, you'll usually not have to worry about being sent to a new window when you don't want to.
But my question was how to make a link default to opening a new tab.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 01:34 PM

Joe

"new" appears to open it as a new tab in the current window

Les


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Bernard
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 01:48 PM

Try Tools - Internet Options - Settings (button next to 'Change how web pages are displayed in tabs')...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 01:53 PM

"blank" appears to do the same as new


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 01:55 PM

Bernard, but how do you do the code to make the link open in a new version (window) of Internet Explorer instead of a new tab in the same window.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 02:37 PM

The USER who clicks on your link determines how a link will be shown, by setting preferences in his/her own browser. The choice (in browsers I've looked at) is to open links in the same window, open links in a new tab, or open links in a new window.

The most common setting is to open new links in the same window - where here "new" just means the next window you click on. This setting avoids the inadvertent accumulation of bunches of open windows during general browsing on the web, which might choke your computer.

Any user who wants to, with this setting, can still right click and choose another option.

Regardless of how much you prefer one or the other, new window or new tab, it is the height of conceit to insist that your website (or your posts here) must force viewers to do it exactly your way, unless you have a valid reason for doing so.

About the only really valid reason for forcing a new window would be when a secure connection is required for the exchange of personal information, since a separate instance of your browser is theoretically "more secure" than when secure and unsecure pages are open together in the same instance. (The difference probably is mostly theoretical.) You must also assume that the user/viewer is very likely to want to return (or you really want them to return) to the unsecured pages on your site (e.g. to finish shopping for your valuable sales offerings).

Many sites also open a new window for a "printable version" (and often open your printer driver for you) on the assumption that you will ALWAYS want to close the print driver and "printable" page, and return to the "real page." This usage is sufficiently common to be considered almost "standard practice," although it's far from universal.

Before tabbed browsing was universal, and when many users had such limited computer resources that they couldn't open more than a couple of windows at a time, you could probably assume that every click would result in display of the new target in the original window. In that long-gone era, it might have seemed/been courteous to write links with a "new" attribute. It's likely now to annoy as many people as it really pleases, except in the customary "secure exchange" and "printable page" cases (IMO).

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 03:04 PM

It is easy to get a link to open in a new page or tab, but it is hard to stop it if the link is configured to force that.

I DESPISE sites that assume all links should open in a new page, and I use a special program to control that. (Proxomitron...with a special filter that overrides 'target=blank')

If *I* want a new page or tab (and I sometimes do), *I* can right click on the link and tell it so.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 03:12 PM

and by the way, if you use Firefox, there is a newly revised add-on called "Tab Mix Plus" which allows you to control behavior of clicking on links to almost any configuration you wish.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 03:17 PM

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If you're linking to other web sites within your web pages, you certainly don't want to just give your visitors away. For this reason, it is highly recommended that you open links to other web sites within in new window.

This will enable your web page to stay open within a window, even if your visitor clicks on an outside link, and prevent you from completely losing your visitors.
End of Quote

If I create links on my website to performers, I am tryting to keep my website open. I don't want to lose viewers.

I could of course not put any links to all you performers on my website.

You win some you lose some


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Bernard
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 06:10 PM

You can please some of the people some of the time...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 06:30 PM

"If I create links on my website to performers, I am trying to keep my website open. I don't want to lose viewers."

I see the point, but if I like a web site, I make bookmarks for it, and even keep it open in a new tab semi-permanently. To decide that I need to be snagged, herded, maneuvered or trapped by clever HTML and javascript does bother me.

When I was a lot newer at this, I sometimes visited sites that had no way to go 'back', even if you were NOT in a new window. It seems they inserted a blank 're-direct' page between me & 'back', so I was continuously trapped. I have since learned how to use the drop-down menu under 'back'to return to any previous link in a series (bypassing the 'blank' page), and newer browsers make this easier.

   So, even if I enjoy a site a LOT, I wish it to be my decision how long to stay and when to return. Site owners who want lots of traffic can do themselves a favor by making it as interesting as possible, with as few tricks & gadgets as possible. (Like background music playing as soon as I arrive, instead of allowing ME to decide whether and when to play it...)

Opinionated? *smile* me? Yep...just a bit...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 06:35 PM

Well there you go. If we weren't all Opinionated? *smile* me? Yep...just a bit...

Just what sort of boring life would we have :-)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 06:59 PM

Oh,,,by the way, controlling browser behavior is even more important in my 'usual' browser, Opera.

In it, I can navigate with some simple keyboard hot-keys...
I can move between open tabs with the 1 & 2 keys, and I can go forward & back in history with the Z & X keys...so right under my left hand are useful items....but if the page itself alters my choices, it is frustrating.


(I can also tab up & down thru HTML links using the Q & A keys...which is particularly useful in a page of thumbnail image links...not particularly relevant in a forum like Mudcat)

Ok, Villan... enough of my preaching... *smile*....


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 07:14 PM

Knowing the shortcut keys is great and very handy


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 07:19 PM

I always add the "_blank" text in the link line because I don't like to navigate away from the page I was reading just to look at what people are referring me to. Sometimes my DSL is slow enough that I'd rather have the new window to look at and go back to my original page than have to wait for my original page to load again.

I usually assume that most Mudcatters have added the link without the new page command, so I open their links by clicking on the link and opening it in a new tab. Bill D. and I have discussed this before. I assume he has my _blank blocked.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 07:58 PM

"I assume he has my _blank blocked."

Not you specifically.... I block all such things, then simply open a page in a new tab if I want to have both pages open for easy reference.

As I noted before, it is not easy to do this. It require some special software and looking for a solution. I found, thru Google, an add-on rule/filter for Proxomitron to control it. Those who use the _blank in their links WILL force 99% of viewers to do it that way. I just wish browsers made it as easy to NOT open in a new tab or page as they do to open that way.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 10:36 PM

It is possible to tile tabs, so that you can see more than one at a time.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Make a link open in new window in Mudcat
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 25 Apr 11 - 02:28 AM

Mostly useless, redundant, unecessary information.

You can right click and select "Open in New Window" or "Open in New Tab."

If you have a "wheel mouse" with a scroll wheel, pushing down on the wheel to "click with the wheel" will open the link in a New Tab (or new Window if that's how your browser is set up).

The only hazard with this method is that a very sensitive wheel setting may also scoot you over to an adjacent link if they're really close together, if you don't press straight down. But Murphy said, I'm told: "ya ain't lost if ya don't care where yer at," and "ya can't get lost if ya don't care where yer goin'."

John


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