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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Bobert Date: 08 Nov 08 - 08:54 PM Now yer seein' it my way, McG.... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Alice Date: 08 Nov 08 - 09:01 PM From a TIME magazine article click here "There's always a circular firing squad after a losing election, and Palin is standing right in the middle of this one. RNC lawyers are coming to Alaska to hold her to account for some of the more than $150,000 spent on clothing and luggage. The first step in plotting her future is finding a way to live down a lot of these latest headlines." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Deckman Date: 08 Nov 08 - 09:45 PM Who's Sarah Palin? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Riginslinger Date: 08 Nov 08 - 10:33 PM At the end of it all, we'll probably discover that the person (or persons) responsible for wasting all that money on clothes and makeup, is the same person that doctored up that video tape about Africa and leaked it to the public. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: CarolC Date: 08 Nov 08 - 11:29 PM Is there video tape about the Africa comment? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:32 AM "...same person who doctored up that video tape..." Wrong again. Sarah was to spend about $25,000 on 6 suits. Instead of that she went wild on clothes--for the whole family. That's the origin of the $150,000--(and it might have been more)--as you can find out if you're willing to do a modicum of research. And the people who were asked to pay for part of this are not at all happy. When will at least one lazy Mudcatter ever start thinking beyond conspiracy theories? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Riginslinger Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:55 AM Well, we've got different sources then, because the documentation I saw concluded that Sarah Palin didn't buy anything herself, and now they can't even prove that all of the things that were charged were to her. It pays to check sources on these things. There was a video on the Africa thing when this story first came out, but it wasn't terribly conclusive. If it has since disappeared, that's probably why. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Charley Noble Date: 09 Nov 08 - 11:19 AM I wonder how long it will take for her "memoirs" to be published? There certainly would be a market, given our own interest in speculating about this woman from the North. I do hope they include a coloring book as well, with all of her new wardrobe. Or may a computer version where those most intrigued can dress and undress her. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Bobert Date: 09 Nov 08 - 11:28 AM Now there's an idea!!! Maybe with the proceeds they could pay back the RNC for the dough it put out for the clothes... Hey, I understand that all that Ms. Sarah says she got were a few bottles of pop but I'm still confused about the clothes that First Dude got??? Anyone on that one??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Alice Date: 09 Nov 08 - 12:13 PM I think paper dolls of the Palin family with lots and lots and lots and lots of pages of outfits to cut out would be popular in the red states. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Nov 08 - 12:13 PM Do you think about $150,000 was spent on clothes for the Palins--including the baby--or not? If not, why not? And what exactly is your source that it was not spent? Yes, some of it was returned. But she was only authorized to spend about $25,000--and far more than that was spent. Or are you alleging that $150,000 was spent--but just in order to leak it to the press in order to embarrass her and McCain? As I've said before, the credibility of the poster who's stupidly trying to to allege yet another conspiracy is somewhat below zero. Time for exact sources--or silence from that poster. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Nov 08 - 12:14 PM "stupidly trying to allege" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Riginslinger Date: 09 Nov 08 - 12:26 PM "stupidly trying to allege" And that's what you do best, Ron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Alice Date: 09 Nov 08 - 01:26 PM From the Alaska Mudflats, video of post-election Palin. http://mudflats.wordpress.com/ Highlights in the video: "It's interesting to note, that Palin never actually turned the reins over to Lt. Governor, Sean Parnell while she was gone. Instead, she felt she would be the best person to manage the affairs of state (since she had all that free time to concentrate on Alaska), and took along with her long-time hometown friend and aide Kris Perry to the tune of $1000 a day. Perry was facilitating communication between the governor and her staff in Alaska. This travel bill will be paid by the residents of Alaksa to the tune of $1000 a day. Keep this in mind when you get to that first highlight I've marked below. Highlights: 1:35 - talking about "being prudent with other people's money" 2:18 - I know that I know that I know…..?!? (A new Palinism for sure) 5:19 - Advice to the girls of America - "You better study hard." (learned that one at the Couric interview) 6:30 - The other 49 states are behind Alaska in equality 7:30 - A run for the senate seat if Stevens gets elected and expelled? "Not plannin' on that." 7:45 - "This is the best job in the world" (Who wanted that VP job anyway…) 9:30 - She wants to help "fix" the media. There's a funny exchange in here where Palin tried to discredit whoever reported on those "anonymous sources" in the McCain campaign that said she was a nightmare. Then she finds out it was the New York Times. " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Nov 08 - 01:28 PM Yes, we need a few Sarah Palins in the mix... That's a good thing... Even Tom Jefferson would say, "Bring 'er on"... Maybe, but don't elect her to high office. As to documentation of Palin's shopping behavior, it is easy to find. From the link, you'll find: NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin's shopping spree at high-end department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While publicly supporting Palin, McCain's top advisers privately fumed at what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books. A Palin aide said: "Governor Palin was not directing staffers to put anything on their personal credit cards, and anything that staffers put on their credit cards has been reimbursed, like an expense. Nasty and false accusations following a defeat say more about the person who made them than they do about Governor Palin." McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin during the campaign, and aides kept him in the dark about the details of her spending on clothes because they were sure he would be offended. Palin asked to speak along with McCain at his Arizona concession speech Tuesday night, but campaign strategist Steve Schmidt vetoed the request. The disclosures are among many revealed in "How He Did It, 2008," the latest installment in NEWSWEEK's Special Election Project, which was first published in 1984. As in the previous editions, "How He Did It, 2008" is an inside, behind-the-scenes account of the presidential election produced by a special team of reporters working for more than a year on an embargoed basis and detached from the weekly magazine and Newsweek.com. Everything the project team learns is kept confidential until the day after the polls close. and a little further down,
-The Obama campaign was provided with reports from the Secret Service showing a sharp and disturbing increase in threats to Obama in September and early October, at the same time that many crowds at Palin rallies became more frenzied. Michelle Obama was shaken by the vituperative crowds and the hot rhetoric from the GOP candidates. "Why would they try to make people hate us?" Michelle asked a top campaign aide. Good riddance to bad trash, Sarah Palin. Those aren't good "political instincts," those are the instincts of a thug. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Amos Date: 09 Nov 08 - 01:34 PM YEah...seems something like taking an old smoky diesel engine out of a Mexican farm truck, and dropping it into a Corvette frame. It'll still look good on the outside, but it won't go the distance, and it will be toxic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Alice Date: 09 Nov 08 - 01:46 PM She wants to help "fix" the media. In other words, castration. How dare that Katie Couric ask her hard questions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 09 Nov 08 - 01:53 PM The trouble was, they weren't hard questions. Hard questions she could have got away with not being able to answer, especially if asked in a hectoring way. But when she couldn't cope with the simple ones asked in a pretty mild way... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Alice Date: 09 Nov 08 - 01:58 PM true |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Riginslinger Date: 09 Nov 08 - 02:17 PM Palin Says She Never Asked For Pricey Clothes ADVERTISEMENT The Associated Press Published: November 7, 2008 ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called her critics cowards and jerks Friday for deriding her anonymously and insisted she never asked for the expensive wardrobe purchased for her use on the presidential campaign. "I never asked for anything more than a Diet Dr. Pepper once in a while," Palin said as she returned to the governor's office from her two-month odyssey as the GOP vice presidential nominee. She said the Republican National Committee paid for the tens of thousands of dollars in designer clothes and accessories. "Those are the RNC's clothes. They're not my clothes. I never forced anybody to buy anything," she said. Republican Party lawyers are still trying to determine exactly what clothing was purchased for Palin at such high-end stores as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus, what was returned and what has become of the rest. She particularly lashed out at the anonymous Republican campaign sources cited in a Fox News report who said she did not know Africa was a continent, not a country, and could not name the three countries in the North American Free Trade Agreement - Canada, the United States and Mexico. "I consider it cowardly" that they did not allow their names to be used, she said. Palin said those allegations aren't true. She recalled discussing Africa and NAFTA with aides who prepared her for the vice presidential debate with Democrat Joe Biden. "If there are allegations based on questions or comments that I made in debate prep about NAFTA, and about the continent vs. the country when we talk about Africa there, then those were taken out of context," she said. "That's cruel, It's mean-spirited. It's immature. It's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away with it, taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news. It's not fair, and it's not right." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: GUEST,McGee Date: 09 Nov 08 - 06:17 PM "That's cruel, It's mean-spirited. It's immature. It's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away with it, taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news. It's not fair, and it's not right." cruel? mean-spirited? immature? unprofessional? taking things out of context? not fair? not right? jerks? Sounds like a pretty good reaction to her Republican Convention speech to me (not to mention the remainder of her stump performances!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 09 Nov 08 - 06:46 PM I must confess I do sort of feel slightly sorry for her........Naah! Only kidding. The one thing that was really wrong was that her appearance on the political scene was eight years too late. Just eight years sooner and one of two things would have happened:- 1. G. W. Bush would never have been elected or 2. He would have been elected, and with Sarah at his side, he would have looked like an intelligent member of the genus Homo Sapiens. Dijit |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 09 Nov 08 - 06:49 PM What should Palin do from here on out? Maybe she could go into partnership with Joe the Plumber in that business that's supposed to net more than a quarter million a year. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Nov 08 - 08:10 PM Sarah had a windfall of political capital when she was selected for that ticket and she squandered it in making hateful speeches and fear mongering. People will remember that. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Riginslinger Date: 09 Nov 08 - 08:54 PM That was her role in the campaign. She said all of the things that the McCain campaign wanted out there, but that couldn't come from himself. People will remember that as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Nov 08 - 09:23 PM She says she "never asked for pricey clothes." Doesn't seem she put up much of a fight against the terrible burden of being forced to take them. And as I said, the original budget was about $25,000--for about 6 suits. I wonder how it got above $150,000. Must have been a McCain staffer seeking to trap poor defenseless Sarah, then embarrass the campaign by revealing it to the media. Anything you say. The lady doth protest too much--(always wanted to use that.) Actually, Mr. Riginslimer, we've had over a year of your stupidly trying to allege all sorts of absurdities--virtually all involving Obama--I wonder why. You are by common consent the master of the art of singularly worthless and unsubstantiated allegations, as well as one of the posters most addicted to infantile conspiracy theories. Congratulations. Do you need chapter and verse from your own collected works? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Alice Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:03 PM "new alliances are likely forming" aarrgh! I suddenly recognized that the post-election Republican party looks like a bad tv episode of Survivor. I think the tribes have voted Sarah "off the island". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:11 PM Actually, as long as she maintains her "outsider" status, by staying governor in Alaska--not Senator-- and particularly if she manages to get the natural gas pipeline through, she could be in a strong position by 2012. Unfortunately. Especially if she learns something about how the federal government works and about foreign policy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:12 PM Obviously it all hinges on how successful Obama is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: katlaughing Date: 10 Nov 08 - 12:22 AM I don't think she'll have a snowball's chance in hell; there are some very powerful GOP mover and shakers who will most likely do their level best to make sure she stays in Alaska. She proved her ignorance to them plenty and they dropped from the GOP voting ranks like flies. IF she wants to be part of the GOP, unless of course they just turn if over to the fundgelicals (hope I spelled that right:-)completely, but then it will become a fringe party and those people would probably nominate her. But, I also think there's more to trouble in Alaska than we've heard, yet, concerning Miz Sarah. David Duke, Dan Quayle...they never made a comeback and she was even worse than Danny Boy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Jayto Date: 10 Nov 08 - 09:58 AM I think the objective to slandering Palin by the Mcain people is part of thier plan. Mcain (if health holds out) is planning to attempt another run in 2012. His people are slamming Palin trying to blame her for his failure and incompetence. Make it appear to be all her fault so he can try to make another run. Mcain knew what he was doing by asking her. She knew what she was getting into. She is a politician and she would not turn down the offer. Mcain should catch more heat for picking her than she should catch for accepting. Lack of judgement on Mcains behalf period. Palin is ambitious and Mcain wanted a pretty face and personality. She is a neocon pinup. I agree with the whoever said we should call them out as the sexists they are. I agree 100% and it is a shame. I dont feel sorry for Palin at all. She became a player on the world stage and couldnt handle it. I don't think she prepped enough or put enough effort into it. IMHO she acted as if she could just waltz up and charm her way into office. She spent more time bashing Obama than making herself look better. Charisma and Flirtation just doesnt cut it. The whole I am a down home girl from a small town thing just didn't cut it. Like Arkie I am from a small town in the south and Mcain carried my state (KY) and County. I voted for Obama. Race played a big role in my county's vote. I am reminded of that everytime I step out of my house. I hate that so bad. Palin did not help carry the vote and to be truthful I don't really think Mcain earned the votes he got from around here. I have yet to hear anyone around here say anything about Mcain that is real positive or supporting his ideals. I have heard far more derogatory things about said about Obamas ethnicity and that is disturbing to say the least. Palin had her moment in the sun and she recieved a bad burn. Throw her some Aloe and send her home. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Donuel Date: 10 Nov 08 - 11:48 AM I feel sorry for anyone who says and believes like Sarah Palin that "Africa is a country". If they are 22 I feel sorry that education has failed them. If they are 44 like Palin, I feel sorry that they have failed themselves. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: PoppaGator Date: 10 Nov 08 - 12:58 PM McCain again in 2012? That hadn't even occurred to me. We'll never know how much of a factor his age and health might have been this time around. Nobody in the Obama campaign said much of anything out loud about it; that was very smart on their part, because any such explicit talk would backfire on them. Still, I'm sure that there were a number of middle-of-the-road white independent voters who might have gone either way but whose decision to vote for Obama was at least partly influenced by the age-and-health issue ~ especially when contemplating who would be the successor if a Presdient McCain would die in office! Another four years from now, McCain will be that much older and feebler and will have been marked, rightly or wrongly, as a loser. The Republican nominee will be someone younger and newer to that natrional scene. If it turns out to be someone already well known to all of us today, the GOP is probably dead, at least temporarily. If the party manages to reinvent itself, somehow, to become relevant in a society and an economy that will have changed significantly, we'll probably be seeing some new names. Maybe T. Boone Pickens, maybe Bobby Jindal.... Who knows? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Genie Date: 10 Nov 08 - 01:19 PM Was Palin "used" by McCain? Sure. But I'd say it was more the Rovian Repubs who chose to foist her on McCain (and the rest of us) to shore up the Pat Robertson faction of their party to give the Republicans a fighting chance. Even the sarcastic, mocking, mean-spirited tone of Palin's Republican Convention speech -- which is what initially turned me off to her -- was fully scripted for her by the puppet masters who scripted ALL the speeches at that convention, including Giuliani's, Huckabee's, Cindy McCain's, John McCain's, etc. (The speeches all echoed the same talking points, such as making fun of [air quotes] community organizers and Obama's charisma and eloquence.) But it was Palin herself who set herself up for ridicule by "not blinking" when approached about being McCain's running mate. She didn't have enough respect for her country or the magnitude of the responsibilities of the VP, nor did she have a realistic enough appraisal of her own skills and knowledge, to say, "I'm flattered, but I'm really not qualified." Instead, Palin continually tried to inflate her own qualifications while grossly understating Obama's (and Biden's). She continued to either make fun of Barack Obama or try to convince people that he is unpatriotic, untrustworthy, and even a terrorist sympathizer. When people at her rallies shouted out things like "Kill him!" she never once, to my knowledge, tried to discourage such outbursts or calm that kind of rhetoric. Palin was quick to accuse the Obama camp of "playing the race card" but when she was criticized for extravagance or ignorance, she was equally quick to cry "Sexism!" Sarah Palin never once tried to be a "uniter" or to find common ground with her opponents. Her message was always that those who supported her (Republicans from small towns, for example) were "real Americans" -- as opposed to Democrats, liberals, city dwellers, etc. And she had to stoop to lying about and deliberately distorting Obama's stated political stances to try to woo her rally crowds. How can I feel sorry for someone like that? Especially when the worst "fate" that's happened to her is that she's a bit richer and much better known now, and perfectly poised to make $$$ from books, TV appearances, etc. Heck, if she wants to forgo running for re-election for Alaska Governor, she can probably have a great career as a right-wing TV or radio talk show host. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: katlaughing Date: 10 Nov 08 - 01:50 PM Well put, Genie. Then, again, maybe they're all crazy: The Republican Governors Association has announced today that Gov. Palin will be the featured guest at its annual conference later this week in Miami, Florida. Gov. Palin is set to be a featured speaker at a panel discussion entitled, "Looking Toward the Future." More at abc news. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 10 Nov 08 - 02:16 PM McCain (if health holds out) is planning to attempt another run in 2012. Well, he'd still be significantly younger than Gladstone was the last time he became Prime Minister at the age of 83. But I rather doubt it. ............................................. Maybe the purified Republicans could revert to the historic label of "Know Nothings", with Sarah as their candidate. Or perhaps, if Sarah Palin is the Republican standard-bearer, she could offer to pick McCain as her running mate, to give her a few votes outside the nutty heartland. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Barry Finn Date: 10 Nov 08 - 02:41 PM That's very funny Kat. Asa speaker for the republican Governors she should be a great laugh.And they're going to have to try to redifine themselves & this is how they start. It's great, they're already off on the wrong foot & moving backwards. My personnal thoughts on the reshaping of the republican party is that they have no choice. If Obama does even a half assed job of getting us out of the mess we're in, he'll be in office for the next 8 yrs followed be, maybe by Biden depending on how he does. BUT, if Obama pulls off a miracle the republicans won't hold any top level public office for the next few decades. I believe the Religious Right will suffer severely & that wiill cause a split in the party which has is already seeing a split with those that do not follow the extreme right wing neocons & some of the older conservitives. I'd love to see their party in a 3 way split & aat thw same time I'd love to see the dem's moving move towards the left & even become radical in they're thinking & policies BUT I don't see that as happening, maybe that's for the better too. As far as Sara's future goes, I see the sun's already setting on that, she's gonna end up as the the poster girl that not only killed the election but the one who's at fault for the demise of the party. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:17 PM In today's Media section of the Guardian a strip making a pitch for a proposed TV series. The idea is "Around the world in 80 days" with Sarah Palin: A travel company shoudl sponsor Sarah Palin on a round-the-world trip to beef up her foreign policy knowledge in preparation for the 2012 election. To be filmed as a TV series, Chaperoned by her namesake Michael Palin, one time part of Monty Python, more recently globe-trotting for a number of excellent BBC travel series. It's a joke - but I can imagine something like this actually happening. I think it could be a hoot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Amos Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:27 PM I'd snap it up if I were Sarah. It would cement her bond with that English sort of country over there that she can't see from her house, and also qualify her as knowedgeable even if she stays dumb. It would give her an opportunity to travel on the RNC's nickel, and go outside the country for the first time. Oh, and probably shop for some really nice travel outfits. Plus, the movie would get lots of downloads and advertising income. Sound slike an irresistible deal, to me. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 10 Nov 08 - 04:16 PM Here is Michael Palin in Tokyo... And here he is in San Francisco visiting the gay community - "the epitome of a well-organised community". It'd be an interesting meeting of minds... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Riginslinger Date: 10 Nov 08 - 06:32 PM "Should we feel sorry for Palin?" Probably not, this from the Daily Telegraph: SARAH Palin won't be vice president, but she won the hearts of talent scouts and literary agents who are scrambling to sign her to multimillion-dollar contracts. The Republican vice-presidential candidate Palin is being actively pursued by top talent agencies such as CAA, ICM, William Morris and Paradigm. Gallery: Sarah Palin in pictures All of them are looking to make her the "White Oprah" complete with book deal by the end of November, reports the New York Post's Page Six Linda Mann, president of Mann Media, which books celebrities and fashionistas for TV, noted, "Her buzz is incredible. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Nov 08 - 06:36 PM All of them are looking to make her the "White Oprah" Oprah is rich, generous, and smart--how on earth do they visualize this twit as a white version of her? SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Amos Date: 10 Nov 08 - 07:24 PM Oh, gee! I can just see her asking tough question of white protestant wife-abusers or white-collar criminals. And although she is not likely to start a Book of the Month club, she might start as Sleazy Tabloid of the Month club, or perhaps a Glossy Magazine of the Month Club, for those who want a little spice with their ditziness. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 10 Nov 08 - 07:29 PM I think she's probably quite smart enough to sharpen up her act considerably in a way that would widen her audience. I see no reason why she shouldn't be up to "asking tough question of white protestant wife-abusers or white-collar criminals." Or for that matter starting a Book of The Month Club. It's always a mistake to underestimate your enemy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Amos Date: 10 Nov 08 - 07:34 PM Hey, ya know, it worked out okay for Lucille and Ricky. They could put the two of them in a sit comm, her and Trek, or Tank, or whatever his name is. "Saaaaaa-RAH!!!!! You got some 'SPLAININ' to doooo...." A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Genie Date: 10 Nov 08 - 09:37 PM Sarah as "The White Oprah," Riginslinger? Hmmm. I guess she does draw a crowd, of sorts. But then, Oprah's not only smart but an avid reader. She's also a pretty nice person. Pretty hard shoes for Ms. Wise-cracking we-don'-need-no-fancy-book-larnin' "Maverick" to fill. Kind of hard to be another Oprah when over half the country already dislikes you or doesn't take you seriously. But, hey, move over, Ann Coulter! *g* Genie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Riginslinger Date: 10 Nov 08 - 09:50 PM Well, I'm just the messenger, but I wouldn't be surprised if over half the country didn't like Oprah! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Barry Finn Date: 10 Nov 08 - 09:57 PM Oprah's ratings are way higher than any of those that you've been supporting Rig! Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: emjay Date: 10 Nov 08 - 10:02 PM Back near the beginning someone commented that she did a good job as mayor of Wasilla. No, a lot of Wasilla residents will vigorously dispute that. I always thought her decision to allow a big box store to be erected on the shores of Lake Wasilla was a good indicator of her service as mayor, though her immediate successor may have outdone her when she tried to condemn the property on which locally owned stores sat so another big chain store could come in. She has been successful as governor for two reasons: She followed an immensely unpopular governor and she worked with Democrats in the state legislature. Many Alaskans are not infatuated with her and there have been a number of demonstrations around the state to make that point. Reporters, film crews, etc. have been here from around the world and we have had a lot of fun with that -- even though many of us are not proud of the image of our state presented to the world. Martie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Should we feel sorry for Palin? From: Ron Davies Date: 10 Nov 08 - 10:32 PM Yes, it does seem that her time as Wasilla mayor was not an unqualified success--and she's not exactly the model of a fiscal conservative. 1) She said she was going to save the town money by cutting her own salary from $65,000 to $60,000. So she cut her salary as promised. However, then it turned out she could not in fact handle the job as mayor. So she hired a city manager--at $50,000. So much for saving the town money. 2) Then of course there's the ice rink. She somehow neglected to get clear title to the property--so as a result Wasilla has had to pay over $1 million in negotiating it--needlessly--since she didn't take the obvious step of making sure of title before she started the process. And of course hiring the contact to steer federal funds to Wasilla. |
