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Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009

Sleepy Rosie 28 Feb 09 - 02:22 PM
John MacKenzie 28 Feb 09 - 02:20 PM
Sleepy Rosie 28 Feb 09 - 02:18 PM
John MacKenzie 28 Feb 09 - 01:48 PM
Surreysinger 28 Feb 09 - 01:18 PM
Sleepy Rosie 28 Feb 09 - 01:13 PM
Surreysinger 28 Feb 09 - 01:05 PM
Sleepy Rosie 28 Feb 09 - 12:50 PM
The Borchester Echo 28 Feb 09 - 12:27 PM
The Borchester Echo 28 Feb 09 - 12:22 PM
Liz the Squeak 28 Feb 09 - 12:14 PM
Sleepy Rosie 28 Feb 09 - 10:52 AM
The Borchester Echo 28 Feb 09 - 09:58 AM
MBSGeorge 28 Feb 09 - 09:09 AM
The Borchester Echo 28 Feb 09 - 07:11 AM
Dave Earl 28 Feb 09 - 06:47 AM
The Borchester Echo 28 Feb 09 - 06:10 AM
MBSGeorge 28 Feb 09 - 05:50 AM
The Borchester Echo 28 Feb 09 - 04:33 AM
GUEST,Ralphie 28 Feb 09 - 03:10 AM
GUEST,Ralphie 26 Feb 09 - 11:12 PM
Tattie Bogle 26 Feb 09 - 09:30 PM
Tattie Bogle 26 Feb 09 - 09:22 PM
Surreysinger 26 Feb 09 - 09:20 PM
Tattie Bogle 26 Feb 09 - 09:04 PM
Surreysinger 26 Feb 09 - 06:49 PM
Jane Bird 26 Feb 09 - 05:09 PM
GUEST,GUEST?? 26 Feb 09 - 04:39 PM
MBSGeorge 26 Feb 09 - 09:18 AM
Dave Earl 26 Feb 09 - 08:48 AM
Eye Lander 26 Feb 09 - 05:03 AM
The Borchester Echo 26 Feb 09 - 02:41 AM
Dave Earl 25 Feb 09 - 06:02 PM
The Borchester Echo 25 Feb 09 - 05:51 PM
MBSGeorge 25 Feb 09 - 05:25 PM
MBSGeorge 25 Feb 09 - 05:21 PM
Dave Earl 25 Feb 09 - 04:48 PM
Liz the Squeak 25 Feb 09 - 04:39 PM
The Borchester Echo 25 Feb 09 - 01:19 PM
Dave Earl 25 Feb 09 - 08:13 AM
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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 02:22 PM

Well, that elicited a laugh out loud here!


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 02:20 PM

You have too much competition Rosie :)


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 02:18 PM

"I'm afraid I can't go to Sidmouth this year, as my Canada trip gets in the way"

Well, I'm still planning to go this year... Hope I haven't annoyed too many regulars with my unwanted blatherin! ;-)


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 01:48 PM

I'm afraid I can't go to Sidmouth this year, as my Canada trip gets in the way. Still I'm sure I can reminisce about that for the next year or so.
Hey, maybe I could organise a Winter Reunion!
Anyone for a Quebec winter?


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Surreysinger
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 01:18 PM

LOL!!!


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 01:13 PM

Oh no! I'm sure someone here already mentioned the great importance of marmite to the essental and core issues of this thread!!! :-]

I do however apologise for the digression onto the delights of lovage.
All my own deviant work!


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Surreysinger
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 01:05 PM

And how off topic is that ??[grins]


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 12:50 PM

"And a proper casserole has to have both Marmite and celery in it."

Picked up a Marmite recipe book for 50p at an Oxfam shop t'other day. Utterly brilliant! For a skinny little paperback, it's already firmly one of the best cookery books I've got on my shelf...

I got some Champagne Marmite a while ago, which tasted like cats pee or something equally iffy. By contrast, Stout Marmite which they released limited editions of rocked!

But whatever happened to those fabulous marmite stock cubes that were the best ever veggie alternative to Oxo that ever there was?

As for celery in casserole, I prefer lovage with all its dark green and atmosphearically fragrant herbage. Unfortunately my plant died, so it's back to the rather less potently evocative, anaemically pale and neatly defoliaged celery - out of clingwrap...


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 12:27 PM

Ah, yes, I was going to say about Marmite . . .
When I worked at Guinness for a bit, translating legal documents that permitted francophone Africa to brew it, I discovered that it was mostly chucked away.
Got loads of it free.
Yum yum.

And a proper casserole has to have both Marmite and celery in it.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 12:22 PM

Well Rosie, as you can see, I'm well into "other things to do in Sidders" by now (or, as I remarked earlier, one singaround does not a festival make). I also noted, much higher up, that the all too common Mudcat trait of failing (or refusing) to read the thread was in full flow early on, with the oneupmanship of "my session's better than yours" getting under way with sing-song adherants abusing the musos and calling them a "clique".

When I joined in (which I can if I want to when I have things which were more on-topic than most to say), I wasn't at any point commenting on what occurs in the Anchor (as someone called Tattie Bogle - good grief - is alleging) but on an unpleasant phenomenon at another pub many miles away where I actually was exactly a week ago, and pondering on the connection between Anchorite rejection of the importance of provenance or even a smattering of academic attribution and this GEFF who was creating havoc at the Exmouth.

Never mentioned the OP (far less launch a "personal attack"). I don't know who it is, except that it's apparently not a bloke. Seems to harbour an affliction of cap-fitting syndrome.

However, did I ever tell you about the first time I stayed in Sidford and got lost on the way back? Ah, perhaps I won't . . .


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 12:14 PM

From Breton Cap:

Ralph got it about as right as it's gonna get

Marmite not celery

Celery not marmite


You both got it wrong, they are both horrible and the invention of the devil. The only good thing about marmite is it's byproduct, beer.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 10:52 AM

MBSGeorge, on an internet forum like this, you can't demand or expect that anyone not post on a thread, for whatever reason - unless of course you are a moderator. I agree that there can be just cause on occasion to politely *request* that other members stay on topic, rather than derail the entire discussion, but whether they will or not is a whole other matter. I have attempted this myself, without success!

If you genuinely wish for this thread to remain on topic - instead of it degenerating into panto, it might be prudent for you yourself to simply cease publicly continuing to refer to Diane Easby, cease continuing to address yourself directly to her, and cease referring to your somewhat minor spat with her? IMO your own continued postings on the matter represent a maintenance of the disagreement, and indeed their very existance can only continue to provoke response.

Some members can indeed be challenging in their manner when posting. In fact I had an onlist hissyfit reaction to another posters 'challenging' comments myself the other day! I believe we both reacted without due thought or consideration to certain things we read in the 'heated' moment, but nevertheless were able to sort it out very amicably. We took our minor differences offlist and exceedingly swiftly reconciled like grown-ups. As a consequence there's absolutely no rancour whatever there remaining.

Quite frankly, I deeply disliked (and even disapproved) your publicly posted thread seeking to BAN Diane Easby for what amounted to little more than some strongly expressed opinion. Whether I like or dislike her style of posting, such action IMO *could* almost be percieved as turning a minor disagreement, into a public campaign against another individual...
As a consequence, I am myself pleased to see that you succeeded in garnering little or no public support amongst the membership here, for the fulfillment of your wishes.

I'm sure I'm wading in here where it's neither desired nor required. But hey, that's the nature of public fora ;-)


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 09:58 AM

Ooh, there's all sorts of stuff you can do on an awayday in Sidders, short of resorting to a trip to the National Trust shop. A friend of mine zoomed down while visiting his daughter and got dragged into a house to play. Asked who he was, he replied that he was no-one in particular. Actually, he was on his way to the Galax Fiddlers' Convention where he played Star Spangled Banner lots better than Jimi Hendrix in front of . . . oooh, lots and lots of people.

Another time, he played Bonaparte's Retreat with me at the top of Jacob's Ladder. Can't quite remember why we did this, but we did. He's the one who nearly got lynched on the Orange Blossom Special train for playing Dixie. That wasn't in Sidmouth (well, the railway line's gone) but is otherwise not surprising.

I've often thought that The Byes would be a good place to sit and eat Marmite sandwiches but haven't done so yet. No-one could possibly fit in all the things to be done in Sidmouth. However, some of us are determined to try most though not all of them.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: MBSGeorge
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 09:09 AM

Diane

I did not call Danny Boy traditional - I said I have been singing folk songs since my father taught me Danny Boy as a child - and I now mainly sing traditional songs.

I have asked you to leave this thread because you are aggressive towards other people for their comments and am now reitterating this. Please make no further comments on this thread as you are using it now as a long list of complaint and your language is unacceptable for a thread which is supposed to be about the Sidmouth Winter Reunion.

We are all I think a little fed up with your tirade thank you very much for your comments now please cease.

G


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 07:11 AM

It wasn't intended to be all that polite.
If somebody's spouting bollocks, that's what I call it.
A spade is a spade is a spade.
As a matter of record, if I'm lied about (whether I know the liar or not), I'll say so.
I "personally attacked" no-one (not even the GEFF I was holding up as an ean illustration) but am becoming just a bit tempted to wield a wet stick of celery
The thread's about Sidmouth and anyone with a background (in my case in a wide range of activities) may contribute.
Someone else in the vanished thread took issue with the OP trying to control who does.
All I can add is that if the OP wishes to avoid being corrected on matters of fact, more attention to provenance and attribution would be A Good Thing. Getting upset about exposing glaring gaps in knowledge is scarcely a matter within my control.

[PS Hat Man, if I go to Lewes I always have to leave by 11 p.m. to get a train back to civilisation. All due thanks to Valmai for offering a list of B&Bs but they're a bit (or a lot) pricey].


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Dave Earl
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 06:47 AM

Ralph got it about as right as it's gonna get

Marmite not celery

Celery not marmite

Nobody totally right and nobody totally wrong (except that I got the day of the week wrong)

And would you call the opening word of DE's last post friendly/polite,well mannered

There is a thing called netiquette isn't there?

Dave


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 06:10 AM

Bollocks.
I don't you you and have no idea what you sing (apart from Danny Boy).
I corrected your misapprehension that this is a traditional song and took issue with a lackadaisical attitude to attribution and provenance, because it does matter. A lot.
This I do (and will do) with anyone.
It's in no way "personal", though I'd say exactly the same to someone I did know.
As someone remarked in the thread that vanished, go and have your vapours elsewhere. And chew a stick of celery (if you like it).


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: MBSGeorge
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 05:50 AM

Diane

You did launch a personal attack on me and I would ask you once again please do not contribute any further to this thread as you have thoroughly upset me with your rude comments about my choice of 'cappella' singing. I have been as polite as my boiling temper can manage and have asked you nicely.

Thank you.

G


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 04:33 AM

The disappeared thread was initiated by someone I don't know telling me I had no right to voice my views on a festival which, admittedly, I have not been at for several years. However, when I have been (at sporadic intervals between 1960 and 2004) it has been a capacity of little importance but I have done just about EVERYTHING from Appalachian step to workshops on instruments I can't play.

What I have to say to the person who whinged is that one singaround doth not a festival make. If you actually want to lurk in a pub all day singing a cappella only, that's entirely up to you. But if you then shriek "elitism" at those who want to maintain and improve standards out of love of the English music and dance traditions, you are plain wrong. And to anyone who claims provenance and attribution of material does not matter, I will continue to contradict them.

I know very well that if I did turn up at the Radway and join in with one or two tunes that I can play well, I'd be welcomed or at least tolerated. Then I'd go and do something else. As a tourist at other similar sessions I have many a time been helped generously by many an Important Musician who didn't tell me what to do but what I might do.

Sidmouth is not what is was to me (OK, Ms Archer I know all the arguments) but when I do go again, I shall continue to utilise the Anchor for what it is always has been to me: a convenient loo when at a ceilidh outside. And to all those peeps who recognised my remarks as passion for music and saw no evidence of "personal attack", thanks. Shouting down from my high horse between bites of Marmite toast, that's exactly what it was, and is.

PS To the man in the silly hat who advised me to go to the Royal Oak LAST NIGHT, this must be why I keep on missing it. I always thought it was on Thursday . . .


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 03:10 AM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 11:12 PM

Hi George.
Couldn't track down the new thread that you referred to.
All I want to say is PEACE people. As has been stated already. It was a lovely weekend. (Actually warmer then usual!)
One memory about the Dove (late 80's??) was the silent singaround, with people pretending to sing, and the audience pretending to applaud, whilst actually doing the Guardian crossword.
As for the GEFF stuff. I just think that life is too short to start climbing up on high horses about such things.
We all encounter crass and stupid people in all walks of life. That is the way things are.
I know what I like. I also know what I don't like. I do the one, and don't do the other. But, I don't diss people who disagree with me.
Example. I Love Marmite, and hate Celery...If I was to come across someone with the opposite view, which of us would be right??
Answer ......both of us!
Anyway a new day dawns, and I've got a funeral to attend
Ralphie


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 09:30 PM

Thanks SS, guess that makes me a Geffend (see same dictionary)
And what about gefugged?
Guess I should gefugg off to bed now.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 09:22 PM

Aha! Now I know: GEFF....! But still doesn' really make sense, as i don't drink ale.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=geff


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 09:20 PM

Tattie Bogle ... GEFF ... Good Enough For Folk ...


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 09:04 PM

Since I have no idea what a GEFF is, most of Ms Easby's negative remarks mean nothing to me. (She'll no doubt call me naive for this, but if she chooses to speak in jargonese....).
I do not see how she can deign to be so critical of something she admits she's never been to (namely the Middle Bar): it only goes to show that her criticism means absolutely zilch (don't let her upset you George)and should be treated with the contempt it deserves.
For me, it was a tremendously enjoyable weekend, and nothing you can say, Ms Easby, can take that away from me nor the others who enjoyed it.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 06:49 PM

George ... re the weekend,if it's any consolation, I've found the thread (where it relates to that, and other sides issues - such as Ralphie and Liz the Squeak's assignation!!) interesting, if a bit frustrating as I would have liked to have been down there - maybe next year (as I said above). :-)


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Jane Bird
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 05:09 PM

"the Swan is the new Dove" ... ???

Really? In the sence that there's no music? I rather miss The Dove.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: GUEST,GUEST??
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 04:39 PM

George

Have read the above, mainly with bewilderment. At least I've confirmed why I never joined mudcat – much prefer a good singaround or session with relaxed and pleasant company.

Speaking of which, I enjoyed the weekend (and your singing). Sorry I never got round to singing Tracks in the Snow as requested but you probably sing it better than me anyway.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: MBSGeorge
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 09:18 AM

Thank you Breton Cap for defending me.

Would anyone who wishes to make further comments relevant to this tirade from Diane Easby make them on the thread titled - Is it possible 2 block user from mudcat? - rather than on this thread which was intended to be about last weekend's singing and music.

As anyone looking at this new thread will see Ms Easby has thoroughly upset me with her personal attack.

Thanks

G x
    I deleted the thread in question, since it was a question that was better to discuss with me privately.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Dave Earl
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 08:48 AM

"I'd particularly like to know where I am and why tomorrow afternoon."

It's off topic of course, but you could do worse than go to The Royal Oak in Lewes to see Faustus.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Eye Lander
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 05:03 AM

Now I remember why I stopped looking at Mudcat. I think I'll goaway again.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 02:41 AM

Oh my!
Since you have such a startling insight into my schedules and motivation for being where I am, are you now going to publish my forthcoming diary and horoscope?
I'd particularly like to know where I am and why tomorrow afternoon.
So much for clairvoyancy.
In 2005 someone informed me that I'd be missing Sidmouth because Steve Heap wasn't running it. Don't know if they told him that too . . .
But don't look to me for your bait. I have a composting bin and so wouldn't even throw you a stale crust.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Dave Earl
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 06:02 PM

My pal George did not claim that Danny Boy was a traditional song she said her father taught her that song and what she sings now is traditional.

I'm sorry your evening was spoilt by a lout (incidentaly that sort of behaviour would have been frowned upon in the Anchor) but that had nothing to do with what went on in Sidmouth and you have just used that incident as an excuse to put forward your usual arguments against a festival that you have fallen out of love with (if you ever had any love for it)

Probably time to end the Thread anyway.

Dave
(who regrets ever having risen to Dianes bait and will try to avoid doing so in the future)


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 05:51 PM

I've no idea who you are because I've never set foot in your Anchor session.
But Danny Boy is certainly no "f*lk song but a parlour ditty of known authorship.
Sorry you're unable to grasp the relevance of my tirade against Mudcat's flaky software and the damage inflicted by a GEFF's behaviour in the Exmouth Arms.
Guess they're just two more music-related issues you don't "give two hoots" about.
I do.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: MBSGeorge
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 05:25 PM

Ralphie thank you for your sensible comments and I just wanted to say that as I passed the Radway during the weekend the music did indeed sound lovely.

G x


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: MBSGeorge
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 05:21 PM

From: Diane Easby - PM
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 12:19 AM

I posted this a few minutes ago but it got eaten. I'm so pissed off I'll repeat it:

I don't give two hoots . . . we're all f*lkies

That's haunted me all day
"F*lkies" horrify me, both the word and the concept.
I wasn't even at Sidmouth, as previously noted, but suffered simultaneously just one GEFF in Camden Town, and that's one too many.
If you don't know the provenance of a tune or song, FIND OUT.
And never play or sing it out TILL YOU CAN.
Not hard.
But to fall short of these standards is to disrespect the music.
That's shabby behaviour and, as we move into Ash Wednesday, could count as a sin worse than no other.


Diane

If you want to continue being nasty go somewhere else and do it. I have been singing folk songs (mostly traditional which is why I don't know who wrote them!) since I was taught Danny Boy by my father around 25 years ago. I am not and have never intended to be a musician and therefore don't know and quite frankly don't care what particular tunes are called unless I like them and then I find out.

There are far worse things than being called a 'Folkie' so if you find us so offensive then don't associate yourself with this site and please leave my thread!

Thank you.

G


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Dave Earl
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 04:48 PM

Yes Liz

There is a certain amount of Playback from a certain quarter that could do with being cut off


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 04:39 PM

Like cutting out rants and repeats?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 01:19 PM

Power cuts could always be harnessed to abort automatically the playback of some people's idea of "the world's worst recording", examples of which have featured prominently in this thread. Or someone could use their ingenuity to manufacture a GEFF limiter that automatically cuts off anything out of tune, or just plain awful. Lots of potential uses, really.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Dave Earl
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 08:13 AM

Tempted to what?

Saying that your 25 Feb 09 - 02:32 AM is more off topic than anything else that's been said in this thread.

How is your power cut relevant?

Dave


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 06:37 AM

Tempted to what? Take a course in contextual comprehension? Seems a good idea. For the record, I've never in my life been to the Anchor except to the women's loos from where I vaguely overheard some lugubrious wailing. Other than that, I haven't a clue what happens in the bar but if the attendees enjoy it, fine.

I was simply quoting one such attendee labouring under the misapprehension that all contributors to this thread actually tolerate being labelled "f*lkies" and who boasted about knowing nothing about music and caring less (or words to that effect) which sounds mightily disrespectful and dismissive of both the tradition and of musicians in general.

If I was "ranting" it was against the utter pointlessness of the thread, general Mudcat tediousness and software creakiness, GEFFism at large, the unreliability of the iPlayer, power cuts and reduced broadband speed. Which I can if I want to.

IF I'm in Sidmouth, that's entirely my choice (or serendipidy of circumstance). It may not be a particularly frequent event, but the history of my attendance record reaches back into mistier depths of time than that of most, if not everyone else on this thread.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: Dave Earl
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 05:47 AM

I'm tempted Diane, sorely tempted, but I've had enough of your ranting
and am not going to give you reason to continue.

Listen - we've heard your views so many times it's boring.

You have your views - we don't agree and there is the end to it.

The Anchor(and The Radway) group has its own ethos which we accept as what we want - You don't have to like it and are welcome to stay away.

You see some of what we do as disrespectful to the music/song but what we do we do for the love of it so I see no disrespect.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 02:32 AM

Crawling about the floor just now banging plugs and things together after yet another early morning power failure (thank deity for wind up radios) and pondering on just what technological mechanism decides which of two posts uploaded simultaneously loses and how to beat it, I thought there ought to be a thread on what (after GEFFs) is the prime pissing off factor of the day.

This should, possibly, be a new thread but someone else could do it. I can't be arsed and besides, most of this thread is so off-topic as to belong to a class of pissing off all on its own.

Top of the list is the iPlayer, making - despite its interminable rebuffering - the missable sadly still available.

Then there's deadly slow broadband loading. Why should those who live the furthest distance from the green box pay as much to Virgin Media as those who live next to it?

Then there are those who think it's important to decide months in advance in which pub at whatever seaside they're going to and play stuff they may not even know.

I don't know what I'm doing after 2.30 this afternoon for the rest of my life but looking at Mudcat's got to feature low on the list. Maybe I'll come across some drying paint . . .


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 12:19 AM

I posted this a few minutes ago but it got eaten. I'm so pissed off I'll repeat it:

I don't give two hoots . . . we're all f*lkies

That's haunted me all day
"F*lkies" horrify me, both the word and the concept.
I wasn't even at Sidmouth, as previously noted, but suffered simultaneously just one GEFF in Camden Town, and that's one too many.
If you don't know the provenance of a tune or song, FIND OUT.
And never play or sing it out TILL YOU CAN.
Not hard.
But to fall short of these standards is to disrespect the music.
That's shabby behaviour and, as we move into Ash Wednesday, could count as a sin worse than no other.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 12:12 AM

MBSGeorge.
Glad you had a good weekend in the Anchor. We did in the Rad too!
Interesting stuff re the Swan.
I think that over the years the Middle Bar and the Radway people have been a bit more organised in putting on both of our reunions. Don't know about the Anchor, but one chap E Mails all the usual suspects about the Rad. Presumably it's the same for the Anchor?
As for the Swan. Music certainly happens in Folk week, maybe it doesn't have that collective will to do a bash in February. I'm sure the landlord would agree to an event like that. After all it's bums on seats, and money over the bar in what could be a quiet time of the year.
And, several Middle Bar T shirt wearing peeps popped into the Rad over the weekend, Hence my chat with Liz the Squeak (Hello!).
So, George, as you say No more bitching. You had fun, we had fun. Don't see a problem with that.
And as has been pointed out, It was also a chance for the organisers of the main festival to get to meet us fringies. (something they couldn't possibly do at the main fest).
So heres to August.
Kind regards
Ralphie


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: MBSGeorge
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 11:55 AM

Ok when people have finished arguing. I started this thread and make no apologies if the title is deemed 'misleading' If you read the first message on each thread it will usually give you a pretty good idea what it is about. I don't give two hoots what music the Radway is for - I couldn't tell you where some of my songs come from and definately couldn't tell you where music comes from or what the tune is.

We're all folkies and should be broad minded enough to accept that different people like different music.

Enough lecturing.

I enjoyed myself at the MBS Reunion and I am sure the people who went to the Radway enjoyed that too.

G x


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: DG&D Dave
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 09:20 AM

Hi Topsie,
Music, dance and song were accepted (sometimes with good grace) in the Dove, for some years prior to its closure.
Last weekend no-one tried to perform in the Swan, while I was there, but I'm sure they would have been welcome.
I too like the idea of a Volley reunion, although it may be hard to fit in the Friday night Ashby-de-la-Zouch folk club in the time available.
Dave.
"And in my very soul they sang. We never went away..."


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: GUEST,Surreysinger at work
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 08:03 AM

Secondary thoughts - Bubblyrat ... hope my message didn't sound too tetchy (memo to self ... don't post late at night when tired), it wasn't intended to.

Kitty ... yep, I'm really miffed that I hadn't realised that Ray was on at the Cellar Upstairs, otherwise I would have been there like a shot. Glad you enjoyed the Sidmouth weekend, though.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: GUEST,Surreysinger at work
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 07:54 AM

Thanks for the suggestion of organising a Volley reunion Ralphie (I thiink??) ... but remember that I'm aspiring to be in the frame for the Radway for next year!! Whether that's raising or lowering my standards I'm none too sure ... but if it's good enough for Barry Lister, then it's good enough for me, I reckon.


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Subject: RE: Sidmouth Winter Reunion 2009
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 07:02 AM

Oh and bubblyrat.
I play the guitar too! It's that I choose not to in the Rad. takes up too much room!
And if you see the pics of this years bash, you will notice a guitar in a prominent position. Jolly good player too.
And we had a Cello!


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