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Gaelic speakers, please

michaelr 27 Jan 09 - 09:53 PM
Declan 28 Jan 09 - 02:55 AM
MartinRyan 28 Jan 09 - 03:12 AM
GUEST 28 Jan 09 - 04:51 AM
MartinRyan 28 Jan 09 - 04:54 AM
Suegorgeous 28 Jan 09 - 05:44 AM
Suegorgeous 28 Jan 09 - 08:09 PM
michaelr 28 Jan 09 - 08:36 PM
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Subject: Gaelic speakers, please
From: michaelr
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 09:53 PM

I'd really appreciate it if someone could check the lyrics posted toward the bottom of this thread and tell me whether the translation is accurate.
My best guess is that it's Donegal Irish, but some have suggested it might be Scots Gaelic.

Thanks in advance,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Gaelic speakers, please
From: Declan
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 02:55 AM

Michael

I'm not familiar with the song and its difficult to translate from what looks like an innaccurate text.

Tiocfadh leat fanacht would translate more as Would you stay? Would you come is a literal translation. The last line of that verse would be I would come with you - a bit of a play on words here in that the phrase Thiocfadh leat can have both meanings.

Manus is from County Kildare with Donegal roots but has lived in Scotland for many years. I'd be fairly sure this is Irish rather than Scottish although he may have picked up some Scottish inflections during his time there.

If you can find an official set of lyrics I could have a go at translating it, although my gaelic is far from perfect. THe play on words in the first verse would be lost in translation.


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Subject: RE: Gaelic speakers, please
From: MartinRyan
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 03:12 AM

Hi Declan,

I agree

Regards


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Subject: RE: Gaelic speakers, please
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 04:51 AM

Hi Martin,

Have a look at my very recent post on the original thread of this song and tell me if you think I have caught the essence of the lyric?

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Subject: RE: Gaelic speakers, please
From: MartinRyan
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 04:54 AM

GUEST

I did already! Like Declan, I'd prefer to see a definite text before I try to sort poetry, mishearings and Donegal Irish from each other!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Gaelic speakers, please
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 05:44 AM

Michael's original thread asking for the lyrics has been going since 2002, so maybe this is the most definite text that anyone's now going to come up with - unless someone has a hotline to Manus/Capercaillie...


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Subject: RE: Gaelic speakers, please
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 08:09 PM

OK. I've now sent the lyrics to both a Scots gaelic speaker/singer and an Irish gaelic speaker/singer to ask if they can shed any light on these lyrics. I'll report back if I get any response.


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Subject: RE: Gaelic speakers, please
From: michaelr
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 08:36 PM

Thanks a million, Sue! I can provide an mp3 of the song if needed.

Cheers,
Michael


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