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Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!

Mark Dowding 29 Jan 09 - 03:20 PM
The Villan 29 Jan 09 - 04:35 PM
sid 30 Jan 09 - 03:16 PM
The Villan 30 Jan 09 - 04:24 PM
Mark Dowding 31 Jan 09 - 06:05 PM
sid 01 Feb 09 - 02:06 PM
Mark Dowding 02 Feb 09 - 12:36 PM
sid 06 Feb 09 - 10:59 AM
Jack Blandiver 06 Feb 09 - 11:13 AM
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Subject: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 03:20 PM

The Lancashire Language Society (formerly the Lancashire Dialect Society) is organising an event to be held on the Sunday at Fylde Folk Festival. We are looking for people from all parts of England who perform items in their own dialect who would be interested in coming to Fylde for this event which will include a competition with various categories for dialect work and a concert which will feature representatives from different dialect speaking areas.

It is quite possible that people we are after are members of dialect societies who aren't folkies and won't be aware of this message.
If you are interested or know someone who might be interested can you get in touch with me by PM or email - mark@markdowding.co.uk.

The fine details have yet to be worked out and at the moment we are looking to see who is interested. This thread will be updated by either myself or Sid Calderbank when we have more information.

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: The Villan
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 04:35 PM

PM sent


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 03:16 PM

PM sent to Villan. If anyone out there knows any speakers, writers, performers of English dialects (especially from south of the Humber/Mersey) tell them to get in touch, we want to make this the ultimate gathering of English Dialect Speakers!


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: The Villan
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 04:24 PM

OK got it Sid. Replied


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 31 Jan 09 - 06:05 PM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 02:06 PM

Come on you lot! I know English Dialects are dying out but they're not dead yet. Help me save them, find the old speakers and let's see if we can get them together!


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 12:36 PM

Jut refreshing this to keep its head above water.
Sooz - thanks for the PM - I have replied. Les has told us about Titch but thanks for mentioning her.

We're looking for contacts down the South-West and Cornwall. Barbara Brown has passed a message on to a couple of people but if you know any dialect societies in that part of the world (or the Midlands and the South East for that matter) please get in touch with me or Sid.

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 10:59 AM

Must waken this slumbering giant! - Any ideas?


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 11:13 AM

I'm storytelling at the Fylde Festival this year; as a seasoned Northumbrian, with Irish & Scots connections, no doubt I'll have something suitable by way of a song or a yarn.

Sedayne.


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 11:16 AM

I see you're at Morpeth Gathering, Sid - I'm telling there as well, so might be nice to have a chat...


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 11:46 AM

I think I would advise anybody to have a go at this... Most of us do 'people' jobs nowadays where we have moderate the accents we are born with. Either that or we find ourselves on a collision course with the 'lingua franca' that our culture is conducted in. (try reading The Luv Song od Alfred J Prufrock' in a Lancashire accent - as I did when I was seventeen and starting 'A' levelin the language of my own country.)

Similarly I married a Derbyshire girl, and I couldn't understand a word her father said to me when we met for the first few times. Apparently his Father had a Derbyshire accent that was even harder to penetrate. I don't think I've ever heard an authentic Derbyshire accent in a folk club - its fast, born of the industrial revolution, urban, clipped and very humorous - but outsiders wouldn't understand a second of it.

The Lancashire accent was the accent of my parents. They were both subject to deep feelings of inferiority - because the world had told them repeatedly that they spoke in an accent associated with gormless comedians, dirty back streets; and poverty of mind, spirit, future, outlook and pocket.

However if there remains just a little of that gravel in your outlook and your accent - stir the fires and who knows what will emerge. It could be your thing!

Last year I won the Presidents Cup of the Lancashire Dialect Society. It was a song that I had never considered singing in a Lancashire accent until someone from St Helens at the Clitheroe Folkus weekend, in February last year, pointed out to me that my song was about St Helens but I wasn't doing it in a Lancashire accent.

my advice would be - have a shot at it. I've got another song I've written that I do in a Lancashire accent - but I don't think I will try to defend my crown this year. It felt pretty weird winning it last year.

However - look at it another way. You haven't won any awards from Radio 2. Neither have I. they obviously don't like the cut of our jib! Have a go at this one. It could be you! as shakespeare said.

Best wishes

Big Al Whittle pround holder of the Presidents Cup of the Lancashire Dialect society.
Press the button to hear 'Aunty Nelly's Boogie' - last years winning song:-
http://www.bigalwhittle.co.uk/


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 02:18 PM

Thanks Big Al!! And well done! We had to give you summat for that!

The Lancashire Dialect competition continues next year but will probably include additional categories for writings in other English Dialects, as we are widening the scope of the event. Not finalised yet but the day will involve a key note speaker, competitions, a"formal" concert and ending with a general dialect singaround. Personally I can't wait, potentially a unique experience.


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 13 Feb 09 - 09:05 AM

And the more insane beards there are at Fylde the better!


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 12:41 PM

Just thought I'd waken this up. WE still need more representatives from south of the Mersey/Humber. Otherwise the day is on!!


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Jim McLean
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 01:59 PM

Arre you talking here of accents or dialect?


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 02:40 PM

"Dialect" is the words that you use, "Accent" is the tone of voice that you use to pronounce those words. The two go together although you can say the words from one area using the accent of another. I am now going to shelter from the flak that I'm going to get from academics tuning in to this thread!!!

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 04:20 PM

Presumably Barbara B has suggested people like Doc Rowe and Mo Keast?

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 06:10 AM

Next meeting of The Lancashire Dialect Society is this Thursday. Any more volunteer dialect speakers want to be part of this unique event?


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: The Villan
Date: 14 Jun 09 - 05:22 AM

Whats the latest on this?


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: GUEST,sid
Date: 14 Jun 09 - 11:51 AM

Latest is very positive! The Fylde Dialect day now has participants coming from Cornwall to Northumbria, Lincolnshire, Norfolk and the lakes, Lancashire and Yorkshire. We have Prof. John Wells, emeritus professor of linguistics UCL, to deliver a key note speech and a healthy level of interest for the competitions. Interested parties should contact www.lancashire.sid@hotmail.com.


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: The Villan
Date: 14 Jun 09 - 12:40 PM

Blimey you have done well Sid.


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 12:03 PM

A reminder to everyone that FYLDE DIALECT DAY is on Sunday 6th Sept at the Mount Hotel, 12.00 noon onwards. I believe it's the first time that a national gathering of English dialect speakers, writers and performers has been attempted and support has been very positive. Some people can't make it (a surprising number of England's farmers are harvesting!), but some are going to great lengths to be there. This could be the start of an annual event which will in future travel the country, being organised by a different region each year.
Dialect enthusiasts should head for the Fylde Festival, entries for the competitions and concert can be taken on the day - I'll see you there. More info at events on www.thelancashiresociety.org.uk


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 05:54 PM

Here's the blue clicky for the website Sid: http://www.thelancashiresociety.org.uk

Unfortunately I won't be there as I'm up in Durham with our local Rambler's club for the weekend which was organised and paid before the Fylde day was mooted but it sounds like it's going to be an interesting and successful day.

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 06:23 PM

Evvy god ennyboddy vrum Debm yit buyy...... cuz I reg'n I mite git ther if you ebm......


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: vectis
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 10:11 PM

It would make it easier for people from far away (like me) to get there if it had been scheduled for a Saturday; on Sunday I would need to be on my way home ready to work on Monday morning.
Just a thought for future years...


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 03:58 AM

In previous years, the Lancashire Dialect Society have had their competition around Sunday dinner time as part of the festival. Following the demise of the dialect society and the rebirth of it as The Lancashire Society, the committee decided to approach Alan Bell to ask if it would be possible to extend the slot to include an academic talk on dialects, the competitions which would include other dialects as well as Lancashire for one of the trophies and a singaround to conclude the event. Alan found us an eight hour slot in what is a very busy weekend schedule for him to organise so we're grateful to him for that.

As with all events like this, however, we are open to suggestions as to how to improve things and I'm sure that after the event we will have a post mortem on how things went and discuss changes - maybe to have it on a different day that isn't Fylde festival weekend. We have got people coming from Cornwall and Norwich so we are aware of distances that people travel and the fact that they have to get home in good time so this is one of the points for discussion.

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 05:34 AM

Dear Georgiansilver,

Ah durn't gaum onybri as is cummin' fro' theer yed. Ah'm bod beawn t'howd dooer oppen un laithen thoose as torns up! Id'll be oppen fer thee, sartin' sure! - SID


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: The Villan
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 05:44 AM

Hey Mark, you failed to mention Lincolnshire there.

Aren't Brian Dawson / Loretts Rivett and Liam Robinson coming along?


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 06:03 AM

Four or five are coming from Lincolnshire, including Brian Dawson. Some of their members are farmers and they're harvesting now and busy.


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: The Villan
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 06:31 AM

Tell me about it Sid. I can vouch that the farmers are extremely busy, living right in the middle of it. Dangerous time of the year driving on the roads round here, with all the tractors etc on the road.
They are doing a great job for us, and its important we do not lose our rag at them, when they cause long queues of traffic.

Is farmer wink coming. Farmer Wink video

Les Worrall


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: Barb'ry
Date: 02 Sep 09 - 05:19 PM

Just had some more people keen to show off their dialect talents - should be a good do - and we've got a raffle!


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: SylviaN
Date: 08 Sep 09 - 12:03 PM

Well, I had a really good time, even though I couldn't understand everything that the participants were saying. Wonderful event, and well organised - long may it continue.

Although Sid will, no doubt, let us all know what the exact results were - for purely personal reasons I will say that John Greaves (Yorkshire) won one of the catagories and Ken Johnson (Derbyshire) was given an honorary mention in another.

Keith was very good in the concert (well, you'd expect me to say that, wouldn't you), and so was Mo Keast from Cornwall. If you don't know who Mo is, she's a Cornish Bard, a wonderful story teller and sings songs in Cornish and in Cornish dialect.

Another surprise was Johnny Matthews, who played the Lancashire pipes - excellent.

Keith and I couldn't stay for the evening dialect singaround, but we'll be back next year.

Bigger and better, I say.

Cheers

Sylvia


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Subject: RE: Dialect Readers Wanted for Fylde!!
From: sid
Date: 08 Sep 09 - 02:38 PM

Thanks to everyone who came from Cornwall, Lincolnshire, Derbyshire, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Lakeland and Northumberland to make this a truly national event. Full report and pictures will be on our website, www.thelancashiresociety.org.uk soon. Here's to next year! - SID


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