BS: Time for Tax Reform

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 12:52 PM

The point is surely the one made by Hubby, that the Obama supporters on this thread are hypocrits.

Ake, you've (deliberately) missed the point, as did SH.

The only reason we're not hearing about Republicans who are no doubt equally entangled in tax discrepancies is because most of them aren't coming under the public spotlight. But they have the same problems.

There are lots of loopholes but there are also lots of pitfalls in the tax codes that just plain aren't fair. They need to be simplified and corrected to more adequately reflect the life and activities of wage earners and investors. Every time someone proposes another credit, I wince. Like offering to give back money at the end of the year if some impoverished family will cough up the cash all year long to buy mandated private (for profit) health insurance. This is the Republicans saying "let the private insurance companies continue to take their profits first and provide stingy care with the rest, and then let the federal government lose tax revenues by offering a credit to those individuals who paid into private insurance companies for those mandated services." It's ludicrous, it is obvious, but somehow, it kept getting proposed.

The reason people came down so hard on Hillary when Bill was first in office and she started examining health care was that she didn't want the private for-profit companies in there calling the shots. So those companies slammed her every way they could think of, and people in general didn't catch on that it wasn't REALLY the public who objected to what she was doing, it was that they were manipulated by advertising and "study groups." People not paying close attention couldn't see through the insurance company propaganda and hear anything beyond the protests of idiot radio hacks like Limbaugh.

So as a result the Bush administration tried to bolster plans that benefited private insurance companies (and didn't they do a brilliant job with the medicare drug plan that did go through, in which it was prohibited that any bargaining for lower drug prices could occur and confusion is the objective?) No doubt about it, the elders in this nation got phucked by Bush and the drug plans.

The work that income taxes are being asked to do are mostly to obfuscate the stay-rich schemes of private industry and their Republican cronies in office. So now while there is at least a two-year period when Democrats are in control, they need to make a serious attempt to eliminate this outlandish behavior.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 09:12 PM

I don't think I missed the point at all.

I do believe that tax reform is severely needed. But to help those that need it. Not so Obama's appointments can get the lavish positions that they want and not be held to the same standards by which their constituents are held.

But that's my take on it.


Hubby

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 02:32 PM

You will never "get it." Critical thinking is necessary, not your partisan regurgitation of talking points.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Riginslinger
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 02:41 PM

Personally, I think Ron Paul has the right idea on tax reform.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 06:22 PM

Rahm may need a little help as well.......


Still....more change we can believe in?



Hubby

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: bald headed step child
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 05:29 AM

If you want equality SH, we can go back and talk about the convicted felon from Alaska getting a standing ovation from his fellow Republicans on the floor of the Senate.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 07:14 AM

Equality is not the problem, BHSC.

Accountability is what's at stake here.


Hubby

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 12:39 PM

The New York Post is about as yellow a rag as you can find out there. Great place [not] for authoritative sources, SH. I know of a lot of people with unusual housing arrangements in D.C. because of the high rent prices, particularly when one actually lives someplace else and maintains a mortgage and household there. This isn't news.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 05:04 PM

That's funny.

People used to say that about the National Enquirer, also.

Ask John Edwards what he thinks about the N.E. now.


Hubby

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 05:32 PM

That doesn't make the Post any more authoritative, though, does it?

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 08:02 PM

We'll see.....
Just keep watchin' and stay tuned.....

Hubby

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 10:04 PM

How about just "think for yourself."

Subject: RE: BS: Time for Tax Reform
From: GUEST,Tasha
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 05:27 AM

At last Economic migrants and students coming to the UK from outside the EU will have to pay a £50 levy towards the costs of the public services instead of us paying for them.

But the £70 million which it is expected the "migrant tax" will raise over the next two years was dismissed by a pressure group as "a drop in the ocean" compared to the sums of taxpayers' money spent on them.

As usual the Government is risking anti-migrant sentiments from old hippies. On the other hand many are suggesting that immigrants place strains on schools, the police and the NHS and should pay for these services.

Subject: Stupid Question
From: GUEST,Lesceamshaw
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 11:20 PM

Hey everyone... how do I search for more than one word in other posts, so that it returns only posts with those two words?

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