BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 08:47 PM

Both sides here are buying a service (assuming the Express article has any truth in it at all, which is very risky assumption). Private school vs. private gym club for pushy parents who want to force their 5-year-old kids to do more gymnastics than the local authority is willing to pay for.

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 08:09 PM

Our 'tradition' in this instance is *Capitalist*, these people are *buying* a service are they not? Isn't that what our modern 'buy and get what you want' capitalist 'tradition' provides without question, or even regard for our entire society and culture (even the wellbeing of our entire planet!), to those who pay for it?

Witness not merely this utterly trivial example, but the much gteater one visited upon us by Capitalism, currently panning out in the direst forms, in the entire UK and Western world as a whole...

Rampant unashamed greedy capitalism, is IMO at the root of a whole plethora of cultural ills which are currently being placed at the doors of immigrants: 'Scapegoats R Us.'

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Victor in Mapperton
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 07:54 PM

I visited a lot of countries over the years and always respected their traditions. It is what you do. If anyone wants to settle in Britain please do, but please respect our country and our traditions. Don't come in and tell us what to do.

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Rasener
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 07:36 PM

>>Somehow I suspect a rather drastic piece of spindoctoring by the Daily Mail or Daily Express. <<

Daily Express - Jack

I am totally against any religion telling a school what to do.

If thses people don't like it, then they should go elsewhere.

We are sitting back and watching these sort of things happening.

We must be plain stupid.

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Victor in Mapperton
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 07:23 PM

I can't believe this, but the story appears to be true. This country is paying the price for it's open door policy.

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 07:14 PM

Source for this story?

Somehow I suspect a rather drastic piece of spindoctoring by the Daily Mail or Daily Express.

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 06:32 PM

So, the school has bowed to the claim of the money put in its pockets from paying parents objections?

The case sounds like an indictment of the private school system, which strumpets itself out to the wallet of the paying customer, rather than being concerned with the broader interests of the community (or indeed children) at large?

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 06:30 PM

For future parents the school should put something in its prospectus that tells them that the school hall will be used for clubs after school for both sexes and if they find that a problem then they should choose a different school for their children.

For present parents the school should send out a letter saying that starting with the new school year in September the school hall will be used for clubs after school for both sexes and if they find that a problem then they have time to find a different school for their children.

If the school numbers go down as a result of this then the government should step in and provide the money for the school to continue for x years until the school has chance to attract parents who will understand that it is important for school halls, gyms etc. to be used after school hours and that it is important for children to be following healthy and harmless leisure activities.

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 06:29 PM

Parents who have taken care to send their daughters to an all girl school for both religious and cultural reasons have a right, in fact an obligation, to object to opening the school to boys.
My 2 cents.

Subject: RE: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 06:17 PM

Tell them to get stuffed.

Subject: BS: School Gym forced to shut by Muslims UK
From: Rasener
Date: 07 Mar 09 - 04:41 PM

Unbeleivable

A GYM club is being forced to close at a girls' school after Muslim parents objected to their daughters coming into contact with boys.

The thriving Shirley Gymnastics Club, which has 250 members of both sexes, has been using the school hall five evenings a week for the past 14 months.

But now the independent all-girls Old Palace School in Croydon, south London, has asked the gym to find new premises following complaints from parents.

"It's unbelievable, " said club chairman Colin Perry. "There is a group of Muslim parents with children at the school and they are the ones putting pressure on the head. It makes me sad to say that."

Mr Perry has been "working non-stop" to find a new venue since December, when head Judy Harris first told him of the objections.

Now the club, which has just 36 boys among its members, has been ordered to stop using the school hall by April 3.

Mr Perry said: "Some of the parents have said their children go to an independent girls' school and unfortunately they're concerned because we have got boys in the club. Mrs Harris said the school has got far more Muslim children than last year, so effectively we have to interpret that in our own way."

In a bid to find a compromise, the school suggested the gym club start at 6.30pm, rather than 5pm, by which time school pupils would have left the site.

But Mr Perry said this was unworkable as it would mean some sessions not ending until 9.30pm, too late for many of the club's members, some as young as five.

Headteacher Mrs Harris released a statement but refused to give any further details about parents' objections.

She said: "We were unable to accommodate the early starting time of the club as the school was still functioning.

We had hoped that the club could be held at a later time but this was thought unworkable by the organisers."

Nick Seaton, of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "It seems extreme to force out a club that appears to be doing tremendous good work for children and the community. It's very difficult to see any great grounds for ruining opportunities for children."