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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: rich-joy Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:22 AM Reading this thread title a few minutes ago, was a real shock. Mudcat (and the world) were all the better for his knowledge and his sharing of it. Vale, Malcolm. R-J |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:16 AM Spaw has so eloquently said all I could possibly say: I second his every word. Thank you Malcolm for so freely sharing your knowledge. --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Diva Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:06 AM I really enjoyed his posts over the years, he was so knowledgable. I was lucky enough to meet him at the TMSA conference in Edinburgh a few years ago and it was a rare treat to have a chat. My sympathies go his family and to those who knew him well. Kathy Hobkirk |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Little Robyn Date: 23 Mar 09 - 06:55 AM Oh, no! I had hoped to meet Malcolm someday. Threads were never complete until Malcolm had added his knowledge. I will miss him. Robyn |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Brian Hoskin Date: 23 Mar 09 - 06:43 AM Malcolm's name on a contribution was a assurance of erudition, accuracy and thoroughness, this terribly sad news has left a huge gap in this forum. My condolences to his family and friends. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jim McLean Date: 23 Mar 09 - 06:18 AM Very shocking news. I always looked for Malcolm's conribution to a thread as I would be sure of a sound, erudite answer. My condolences to his family. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Fred McCormick Date: 23 Mar 09 - 06:05 AM I only met him once, and that recently, when he bought some LPs I was selling for charity. I hope he had time to enjoy them. As his voluminous contributions to Mudcat and elsewhere testify, he was that rare combination, a gentleman and a scholar. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Roberto Date: 23 Mar 09 - 06:05 AM A deep scholar, I've learned many things from his comments and even changed some of my bad habits in using terms about traditional music, after he rebuked me (e.g.: I used to say "version" for what is not a different version but just another "recording" of a song). A strict teacher. I held him in high esteem. R |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: bill\sables Date: 23 Mar 09 - 06:00 AM A very sad loss, Malcolm was good to know. Bill |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST, Sminky Date: 23 Mar 09 - 05:50 AM Sad news indeed. Although we never met, I felt I knew him somehow. His erudite posts will remain as a testament to his scholarship. RIP Malcolm - and thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Mary Humphreys Date: 23 Mar 09 - 05:45 AM I will miss his generosity, help and knowledge greatly. My condolences to his family and friends in their sad loss. It is also ours. Mary Humphreys |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: sian, west wales Date: 23 Mar 09 - 05:34 AM This is a sad sad loss. How many times has discussion of a tune or song deteriorated into a mess of conjecture and wrong turns and brick walls, and we've known that it would all get sorted out when Malcolm showed up? I can't help but think of that Gary Larson cartoon of sheep at a cocktail party, with the caption: "Our party's total chaos! No one knows when to eat, where to stand, what to .. Oh, thank God! Here comes a Border collie!" That's how I often felt about discussions awaiting Malcolm's appearance. My sincere condolences to his family and friends - including us here, regardless of how well we may have known him. Like Spaw, I too thought right away of the empty chairs at the Mudcat table ... I'd like to think there is a renewed obligation upon all of us who remain to keep Malcolm's commitment to research and accuracy alive, off list and on. sian |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: stallion Date: 23 Mar 09 - 05:22 AM It doesn't surprise me that I, like so many others, never actually met in the flesh but had the benefit of his knowledge and scholarship through this place. bugger |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Bryn Pugh Date: 23 Mar 09 - 04:49 AM Oh, dear. The world is a darker, gloomier place, today. I never met him in person, and now I won't. The erudition and scholarship he demonstrated was colossal. If it isn't a contradiction in terms, so was his modesty. Our heartfelt condolences to those near to him in love - all of us, I'd say. May he rest in the arms of the Great Mother, and know the All Father's smile. So mote it be. Erica and Bryn |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: MC Fat Date: 23 Mar 09 - 04:38 AM I heard the sad news at my session. Malcolm will be missed as a musician, scholar and friend. He was a great supporter and worker for the Sheffield folk festival producing graphic work of exceptional quality at times being a voice of reason at committee meetings. He was a one off and very special |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: MoorleyMan Date: 23 Mar 09 - 04:35 AM Only just found the thread on my return. Hey, this is sad news indeed. In common with many other Catters I never had the privilege of meeting Malcolm, even though we lived a mere stone's throw apart as it were, but his intense erudition and consistent good sense were both inspirational and aspirational and rightly commanded a tremendous amount of respect. My sympathy and condolences to his family. MM |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: John J Date: 23 Mar 09 - 04:33 AM I'm shocked and upset - Malcolm was such a knowledgeable man. The way he contributed to Mudcat (and no doubt humanity too) should be an example to us all. A true gentleman. To echo Paul Burke's message: 'A huge loss, a massively learned scholar who freely disseminated his knowledge to the benefit of all. A decoration to humanity.' There really is no-one to replace such a man with such a fount of knowledge. I will miss his informed contributions. My very sincere condolences to his family and his friends - and to us all for such a terrible loss. This really has buggered up my day. John |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Dave Sutherland Date: 23 Mar 09 - 04:28 AM From my earliest ventures into Mudcat he was always there with the source of a song plus a number of alternative versions should they exist. A wealth of knowledge which will be so sadly missed. RIP |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jim Lad Date: 23 Mar 09 - 03:59 AM Well this is a sad day. I must confess to getting into the "She Moved Through the Fair" debates as often as I could, just to get his reactions. He never let me down and I enjoyed him immensely. Take your time, Malcolm. We're not too far behind you. God Bless and keep. Jim |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: r.padgett Date: 23 Mar 09 - 03:35 AM I have just seen this very sad news Malcolm was a regular at the TSF meetings at Sheffield where I last saw and spoke to him He was a true fountain of folk song knowledge and a mainstay for Stirrings and SRFN around Sheffield, South Yorkshire A gentleman to the last God bless Ray |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Hrothgar Date: 23 Mar 09 - 03:23 AM I am sad that he is gone, but I am glad that he was here. Rest in peace. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: nager Date: 23 Mar 09 - 02:23 AM Sad news indeed. Rest in peace Malcolm. Paul |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,DWR Date: 23 Mar 09 - 01:57 AM Can't even imagine what I could say to add to all that those who came before me said so eloquently. So I'll just say that it goes for me too. I'll miss him. Dale |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: The Borchester Echo Date: 23 Mar 09 - 12:17 AM Devastating. He and I exchanged views and knowledge on and offlist on a vast variety of subjects, conversations to which his contribution was infinitely more erudite and valuable than mine. Not least, his Mac Help By Email was without parallel. Time indeed to conclude that wading through the rest of the dross by comparison that gets posted on here is utterly pointless if Malcolm's not going to show up any more to impart the right answers. Farewell and RIP. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Mark Clark Date: 23 Mar 09 - 12:11 AM Like many, I only knew what he posted here. His knowledge, wit and contributions here have been well documented. I too am saddened by his passing. - Mark |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Phil Cooper Date: 22 Mar 09 - 11:34 PM I always liked to read Malcolm's posts. I'll miss them. RIP Malcolm. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Dave the Gnome Date: 22 Mar 09 - 10:58 PM I met Malcolm at the Yorkshire gathering and have fond memories of both the event and the person. Another one bites the dust:-( DeG |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Rowan Date: 22 Mar 09 - 10:44 PM So sad! I only ever met him via his postings on Mudcat but his scholarship set, for me anyway, the benchmark. Always succinct, only ever critical in the properly constructive sense, his contributions will be sorely missed. Because of the detail he contributed and also the way he drew together the relevant postings from diverse threads I think it important that newcomers have their attention drawn to his contributions. Perhaps via a Permathread. Some may see this as a memorial but I suggest it as a valuable resource. Vale Malcolm! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Suegorgeous Date: 22 Mar 09 - 09:52 PM Gosh, I'm shocked and saddened. Didn't really know him, but he obviously had a vast knowledge of his subject and cared deeply about the music and what lies behind it. I found him a little abrasive, but came to respect his contributions and the love he had for our tradition. Go well. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Bill D Date: 22 Mar 09 - 09:10 PM ....coming in late today, I am in shock. Malcolm was ....was... all the good things said above. He was the rare combination of musician and scholar. I had the rare honor a couple years ago of being able to obtain a scan of an old book he was unable to obtain in England, and get it to him. Malcolm & the late Bruce Olson used to compare notes here on arcane details of early music.... I don't think either of them were religious, but I'd like to imagine them with an eternity to argue over minutiae. We have so many of their contributions in Mudcat to remember them by.... We will miss Malcolm terribly. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jack Campin Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:56 PM Shit. Malcolm was somebody I really wanted to meet one day. One of his last postings was a followup to a comment of mine. As so often, he could be absolutely precise about something I was only making an informed guess about. He did that with my postings for years. Now it looks like we'll all have to do that careful research for ourselves. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: katlaughing Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:47 PM I echo what Spaw and Barry Finn said...Rick Fielding immediately comes to mind as another *biggie* loss here at Mudcat. We will survive such losses, but Mudcat will never be the same...each time we lose one of them, it changes. Thank you, Malcolm, for all things. My condolences to his family and friends. Noreen, thanks for the link to the picture. kat |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:43 PM Malcolm will certainly be missed, although his contributions to threads here will continue to sustain us for years. I only regret that I never got to meet him in person to thank him for his efforts. Charley Noble, rising a glass |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Big Mick Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:38 PM In the grand realm of it all, Mudcat is a small part of this man's life. Yet his contributions here, which touched and enlightened us around the globe, cannot be measured. There are many that have shared wisdom with us, many that have enriched our knowledge and love of the music, but rare is the one who has been so consistent and giving of their hard earned knowledge. This was a gentleman, and a gentle man. Good on ya, Malcolm, thanks for all you did for us. Your voice will be heard in all those graced by your scholarship, in many lands and for many years to come. We are a poorer family today, friends. Mick |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: NOMADMan Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:24 PM This is a terrible shock. What a great loss to those who relied on Malcolm for his vast knowledge and his ability to get to the heart of all questions of scholarly folksong research. Malcolm simply can't be replaced and he will be sorely missed. Sadly, John |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: SINSULL Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:23 PM Rest in peace. |
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Subject: For Malcolm - Tonight. From: RTim Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:21 PM Tonight, while I was eating my dinner - I drank a toast, in a good French Pinot Noir, to the memory of Malcolm Douglas, whom I admired very much.
Also, in respect and in memory, I played the CD of 'East Anglia Sings' -
I am continuing to think of him, and his family and friends, may they be To Malcolm - a fine man indeed........ Tim Radford |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:19 PM Rest in Peace... |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:17 PM On subjective issues we often differed, but I am very sorry to hear of his passing! He will be greatly missed here by one and all! RIP! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Susanne (skw) Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:15 PM Oh no! I never met him, but I'll miss him more than many people I have met. The Mudcat will be different without his knowledge and also without his welcome voice of sanity. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Kent Davis Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:13 PM If anyone knows how to contact his family, please pass on to them the contents of this thread. I will just repeat what I wrote to him a year ago: "Thank you so much for your contributions to Mudcat. I have learned so much from them. Your erudition is immense. That it is combined with common sense is refreshing. That these are combined with a clear style of writing is amazing." Kent |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Mar 09 - 07:44 PM A great loss. No one could have been more helpful. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Steve Gardham Date: 22 Mar 09 - 07:30 PM The measure of the man, the legend. Malcolm knew he hadn't got long left and yet he continued to post to at least 2 other ballad lists as well as this one almost to the last. Amongst all the ballad scholars his star shone the brightest. An immense loss. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 22 Mar 09 - 07:28 PM This is a terrible shock and an irreplaceable loss. Malcolm seemed to have mastered everything worth knowing about English folksongs and he never stinted in sharing that extensive knowledge with the rest of us. In both particulars, Malcolm was among the very few. Though he and I never met in person, the world of the Mudcat suddenly feels like a much, much smaller place. My deepest condolences to his family. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Jon Date: 22 Mar 09 - 07:27 PM I'm sorry to read this news. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Surreysinger Date: 22 Mar 09 - 07:07 PM I'm saddened by the news. I had hoped that one day I might meet Malcolm .. his posts were always informative and of his knowledge was wide indeed. On a couple of occasions he posted messages to me about my research which made me feel that I was doing something worthwhile. His absence is certainly going to be a very great loss to us. Many condolences to his family and friends. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Janie Date: 22 Mar 09 - 06:56 PM All I can do is echo what others have already said at this shocking news. Peace be with him and all who loved him. Janie |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: M.Ted Date: 22 Mar 09 - 06:54 PM When questions came up about the origins of a song, he was always the one who pulled the story together. A discussion was not complete until Malcolm Douglas had his say, and, more often than not, it was not even begun till his initial post. Often, he entered a discussion somewhat late, owing to the fact that he took time to research and check his answers, and to make sure that his references were properly cited and complete. In his postings, he was always both a gentleman and a scholar, and as enriched as we were by his presence, we are that much poorer for his loss. I only knew him from his postings here, but I'll miss him a lot. Deepest regrets to his family and friends. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Anne Lister Date: 22 Mar 09 - 06:47 PM I'm sorry too to hear of this - deepest condolences to all who loved him. Anne |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 22 Mar 09 - 06:43 PM So sorry to hear this sad news. |
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