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Subject: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:04 AM Hey what are y'all using to get the chemicals off your produce? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Bill D Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:25 AM ummm...beyond water? I have a belt sander, but ......... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:35 AM Plant Wash is recommended highly by my organic guru Howard Garrett (The Dirt Doctor at www.dirtdoctor.com). These things are typically more expensive and fussy that I want to fool with in the house (he recommends it for any number of maladies on plants that are still out in the garden). In the house if I have veggies for dinner that came from the store I usually have a pan of fresh dish water in the sink, ready for stuff used in cooking. I swish the veggies through it a couple of passes and then rinse it thoroughly. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:37 AM Some of the chemicals are bonded in a waxy sealer. Gotta bust the seal to get the chems off. Even hot-hot-hot water doesn't really get it all, and on apples, for instance, you can see the residue after a wet wash. Cain't you taste it on yore apples?!? Sure, I could buy organic, but the wash is said to remove so much of the chems that it's an affordable option to organic. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: maeve Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:39 AM We wash all home-grown and purchased produce in clean, preferably running water. No soaps or other commercial concoctions are needed or desirable. We wash before peeling, and then rinse again briefly before cutting root veggies. The links below advocate a similar approach. The third suggests only distilled water be used. I think not. http://www.foodsafety.gov/~dms/prodsafe.html http://nutrition.about.com/od/ahealthykitchen/a/washveggies.htm http://www.umext.maine.edu/onlinepubs/htmpubs/4336.htm maeve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: maeve Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:40 AM Susan- If I bring home food with that sort of coating I peel it. maeve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Apr 09 - 01:49 PM Peel, yes... but sometimes I don't want to peel that apple-- I want to eat the peel! :~) Or when I make applesauce. Peels on during cooking, then strained out after-- lends a lovely color. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: maeve Date: 04 Apr 09 - 02:00 PM Well, yes; that's why I buy apples that haven't been treated in that way. For what it's worth, the nasty coatings you and I don't like are required to be "safe" for human consumption. The best sources I've found all agree that the special washes tend to cling to the fruit. I don't want to eat them any more than I do the waxes and oils. Have you tried tossing coated apples into hot, then cold water then use a veggie brush to finish getting most of it off the skins? Sometimes I'll do that if I really can't get uncoated fruit. I tend to buy fruits locally in season and store them in the cool cellar. That doesn't answer your question- but I'd rather circumvent the need to remove such stuff by not buying similarly preserved foods. My preference; it needn't be yours. maeve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Apr 09 - 02:02 PM I'll try that. Uck! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 04 Apr 09 - 02:54 PM I heard acidulated water was the thing? A dilution of vinegar for example? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: maire-aine Date: 04 Apr 09 - 03:54 PM Just plain tap water for me. Gotta give Detroit props for havin' good water . Things with waxy coatings, like cucumbers and apples, I peel. Maryanne |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Peace Date: 04 Apr 09 - 03:58 PM Fruits and vegetables? I thought that's what vitamin pills were for. Live and learn . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Amos Date: 04 Apr 09 - 04:10 PM I jest munches 'em down,. wax and all. Hell, I ain't perticklar an' I trust my immune system p[urdy good. A |
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Subject: Lyr Add: STILL GONNA DIE (Shel Silverstein) From: pdq Date: 04 Apr 09 - 04:33 PM STILL GONNA DIE~ Shel SilversteinSo you're takin' better care of your body Becoming more aware of your body. Responding to your body's needs. Everything you hear and read about diets, Nutrition and sleeping position and detoxifying your system, And buying machines that they advertise to help you exercise. Herbs to revitalize you if you're traumatized. Soaps that will sanitize. Sprays to deodorize. Liquid to neutralize acids and pesticides. Free weights to maximize your strength and muscle size. Shots that will immunize. Pills to re-energize you. But remember that for all your pain and gain Eventually the story ends the same... You can quite smokin', but you're still gonna die. Cut out cokin', but you're still gonna die. Eliminate everything fatty or fried, And you get real healthy, but you're still gonna die. Stop drinkin' booze, you're still gonna die. Stay away from cooze, you're still gonna die. You can cut out coffee and never get high, But you're still gonna, still gonna, still gonna die. You're still gonna, still gonna, still gonna die. Still gonna, still gonna, still gonna die. You can even give aerobics one more try, But when the music stops playin', you're still gonna die. Put seat belts in your car, you're still gonna die. Cut nicotine tar, you're still gonna die. You can exercise that cellulite off your thigh. Get slimmer and trimmer, but you're still gonna die. Stop gettin' a tan, you're still gonna die. You can search for UFO's up in the sky They might fly you to Mars where you're still gonna die. You're still gonna, still gonna, still gonna die. Still gonna, still gonna, still gonna die. And all the Reeboks and Nikes and Adidas you buy You can jog up to heaven and you're still gonna die. Drink ginseng tonics, you're still gonna die. Try high colonics, you're still gonna die. You can have yourself frozen and suspended in time, But when they do thaw you out, you're still gonna die. You can have safe sex, you're still gonna die. You can switch to Crest, you're still gonna die. You can get rid of stress, get a lot of rest, Get an AIDS test, enroll in EST, Move out west where it's sunny and dry And you'll live to be a hundred But you're still gonna die. You're still gonna, still gonna, still gonna die. Still gonna, still gonna, still gonna die. So you'd better have some fun 'Fore you say bye-bye, 'Cause you're still gonna, still gonna, still gonna die. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Jack Campin Date: 04 Apr 09 - 04:38 PM Carrots are often treated with organophosphate insecticides. Nothing will shift those except peeling the carrot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Apr 09 - 05:07 PM Unless you grow your own. Carrots, onions, garlic, eggplant, squash, chard, broccoli, tomatoes, herbs to start with. Freeze and can what you have as surplus. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Janie Date: 04 Apr 09 - 05:17 PM Organic Gardening reported on some studies a few years ago that are consistent with what others have posted or linked to - that water is sufficient to wash off surface insecticides, pesticides and feritilizer from the skins of above ground crops. I peel most root crops, even if they are organic, since they are much more likely to have incorporated whatever they are treated or fertilized with intothe skin. I don't peel potatoes in order not to lose the substantial nutrients in the peels, but I never buy inorganic potatoes. With organic potatoes, the cost/benefit analysis suggests the benefits of of eating the peel outweigh the costs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: LilyFestre Date: 05 Apr 09 - 08:01 AM PDQ: LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Ed T Date: 05 Apr 09 - 02:46 PM From naturalnews.com Fruits and vegetables need to be washed to remove pesticides Wednesday, March 30, 2005 by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor | Key concepts: Vegetables, Fruits and Fruits and vegetables Summary Of all the tons of pesticides used every year to kill insects, only 0.1 percent actually reaches the insects. The rest lands on the ground or on fruits and vegetables. Thus, the pesticides must be thoroughly washed off in order to keep them from entering your system. By using products such as Enviroclean Fruit & Veg Wash, you can remove these dangerous chemicals and eat much safer produce. Buzz up!vote now Details * According to research undertaken in the United States some 2.5 million tons of pesticides are used annually, but only 0.1% reach the targeted victims, the insects. * The other 99.9% ends up in our water supply and on the fruit and vegetables that are sprayed. * Pesticides are designed to be neurotoxic, meaning that they attack the nerve tissues of the insects in order to destroy them, but if they are not properly washed from our food, it's unsurprising that they also effect human neurological tissues. * Conditions associated with this type of toxic overload include chronic fatigue syndrome and a range of auto immune diseases. * Although pesticide residues are found in all of the most commonly eaten fruits and vegetables, scientists have pinpointed the 12 most contaminated products. * Grapes, strawberries, cherries peaches, apples, apricots, spinach, red and green peppers, celery, green beans, cucumber, and melons are the worst offenders. * The ideal solution would be to only buy organic produce but if this is not a possibility then you might consider Enviroclean Fruit & Veg Wash, a new product from Australia that is now being sold in the U.K. Made from de-ionized water, coconut oil, palm oil and potassium salts the product is designed to remove dirt, wax and chemical build up, herbicides and pesticides from fresh produce. * Just sprinkle a few drops into half a sink of water and gently wash produce by hand. * Dry on a paper towel or clean tea towel and store in paper, not plastic bags, which help to keep fruit and vegetables in tip top condition for longer. The product: http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/body-soul/enviroclean-wash.asp |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: artbrooks Date: 05 Apr 09 - 03:16 PM We wash everything in tap water. That way, we are sure to get our daily dose of arsenic...good for the skin, ya know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Spleen Cringe Date: 05 Apr 09 - 06:00 PM I find nuking 'em does the job... I guess we must be lucky in Manchester - my local organic greengrocer isn't much more expensive than the non-organic stuff at the supermarket. They buy direct from the producers when they can. I just wash in cold water and use a scrubbing brush to scrub the dirt off. I do the same to my veggies... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 05 Apr 09 - 09:40 PM 'Organic' fruits and vegetables are treated with pesticides - copper salts and pythethrum. So whatever you buy, wash it. Besides, you never know if a person with unclean hands touched the food before you bought it. I wash everything with clear water, and I wash mushrooms in cool water with a bit of dish detergent. That's because the compost just seems to cling to them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Barry Finn Date: 05 Apr 09 - 10:03 PM only wash the mushrooms just prior to eating or using Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Peace Date: 06 Apr 09 - 12:50 AM Mushrooms should usually be wiped with a damp cloth. Commercial mushrooms are not grown in shit anymore. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Spleen Cringe Date: 06 Apr 09 - 03:11 AM 'Organic' fruits and vegetables are treated with pesticides - copper salts and pythethrum. But put in context: 1. 31,000 tonnes of pesticides are applied to UK farmland each year. Soil Association organic farms account for 0.03% of this (10 tonnes). 2. Soil Association organic growers in the UK can use only four pesticides (copper,rotenone, soft soap and sulphur) for specified purposes. The vast majority is used on potatoes, most of the remainder is used on orchard fruit. 3. In 2006, copper and derris were used by 63 Soil Association organic growers (3% of certified producers) on 709 hectares of organic land, representing 2% of Soil Association fully organic cropped land (0.3% total fully organic land). 4. If all UK farmland switched to organic, this would result in a 98% reduction in pesticide use. The Soil Association, Pesticides and organic farming - a last resort 2007 The article goes on to say, "The Soil Association is not aware of any licensed organic farmers currently using pyrethrum and is monitoring any future use of pyrethrum by its growers." About The Soil Association |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 06 Apr 09 - 06:55 AM Anyone remember the 'Spitting Image' sketch with mad Maggie Thatcher and her cabinet in a restaurant? She orders a rare steak. 'What about the vegetables?', asks the waiter. 'Oh, they'll have the same...' :D (eG) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 06 Apr 09 - 11:02 AM Thanks, Barry. I always wash the mushrooms right before eating, but it's good to let others know the best practice. Peace, I am glad that mushrooms aren't grown in shit anymore, but I still want to have all those sticky black specks off. And my husband is even fickickier than I. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Peace Date: 06 Apr 09 - 08:38 PM A damp cloth will do it. BUT, if you intend to wash 'em, make sure that they are closed--that is that they haven't begun to open, because that boils 'em on parts of the inside as they heat. I love mushrooms and I damp cloth 'em. It works as well and seems to provide a firmer end product. This for yer everyday generic off the shelf 'normal' mushroom. I don't know anything about the ones that cost $9,652.99/pound. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: bobad Date: 06 Apr 09 - 09:33 PM There is a mushroom farm near to where I live and they grow their mushrooms in composted hay which has been spoiled by being rained on before it could be bailed. It is nice, clean stuff which is used only once then sold to people who use it in their gardens. Mushrooms should ONLY be wiped with a damp cloth or paper towel, never immersed in water as they are spongelike and will absorb water which causes them to boil instead of browning when sauteed. I find the brown mushrooms, called café-au-lait or cremini, contain less water and have more flavour than the whites when sauteed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 06 Apr 09 - 10:21 PM SWYSLWIG
It appears - your concern is the waxy/greasy stuff sprayed on the outside...(in particular tomatoes and cucumbers and peppers I guess)
Use a soft paper towel CORNER (1 teaspoon max) - soaked with Bacardi 151 (maybe 100 proof Wild Turkey or Vodka would work too or moonshine)((maybe even 80 proof Popov)) (((maybe even 24 proof (12%) wine)) ((((maybe even homebrew beer at 12 proof (6%))))
Wipe the vegitable and then rinse.
The wax is removed.
Wash again as you deem fit.
Homegrown Heirloom (Brandywine) is the way to be...but hot-house from Holland in April fills the craving for "an early Summer - BLT"
Sincerely,
Perhaps, it is your soap. Local news is reporting "boot-legger runs" to from Spokain, WA into Canada to purchase "phosphate soap" since an ordinance has banned the sale to protect the local rivers.
?I have been saving fat...and will stir a kettle full with lye...to boil with my cotten socks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 06 Apr 09 - 10:53 PM Keeping them fresh...
After cleaning and cutting:
Rinse/Toss the freshly cut vegitables in a concentrated solution of Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) buy the crystals and use one teaspoon in one cup of water.
Those that are not consumed that week...toss again in the solution ... and bag...they will be looking and tasting as fresh as the new-cut...one week later.
Sincerely,
no..No...NO .Do NOT double-dip!!!!! Rinse and re-bag only the vegitables that were NOT presented to the gathering that week...and were never open aired to the public.
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: catspaw49 Date: 07 Apr 09 - 01:25 AM Like a dumbass, I smoked about 3 packs a day for almost 40 years. I've eaten thousands of undercooked eggs and gawd knows how much nearly raw red meat. I spent way too much time in the sun, both on the water and off. I had several nasty accidents racing cars and for more than a few years I was a reasonably heavy drinker......All of this caught up with me of course and I've had several near death experiences. Now I take 9 different prescription drugs a day, some of them twice. Yet somehow I'm about to be 60 and I'm thinking I'm damn lucky and thankful to modern medicine to be alive. I could personally give a shit less what's on the veggies.............. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Peace Date: 07 Apr 09 - 01:29 AM . . . and said with your usual understated eloquence, Spaw. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Shalini Date: 30 Apr 09 - 03:13 AM Any idea whether Gargoyle's method would also prevent most of the nutrition from being lost? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 30 Apr 09 - 04:45 PM Public Health Agency of Canada says raw lettuce, the base of most salads, is impossible to clean. When traveling, they recommend foods that have been cooked "and served piping hot." "Fruits and vegetables should be either freshly peeled or freshly cooked." Grapes, strawberries and raspberries are hard to clean. http://www.phac.aspc.gc.ca//publicat/ccdr-rmtc/01vol27/27sup/acs3.html Dunno the effectiveness of washing in high-proof liquor, but this wash-liquid probably is drinkable- no waste! I am a peel eater. I take my chances. Nude food is immoral! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Apr 09 - 10:09 PM It comes out of the yard, goes into the pot or onto the plate with a quick pass under the water. Anything from the grocery store gets a swish through dishwater and well-rinsed to remove whatever (most likely it has been handled by people with germs on their hands, so that is as much a concern as chemicals). SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie/Fruit Wash? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 May 09 - 12:00 AM Like SRS, I worry more about germs left by those shoppers who have to squeeze and handle everything than about residual approved coatings. I have sometimes wondered how effective wash-rinsing is, but nothing is 100% effective. |
