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Subject: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bobert Date: 13 Apr 09 - 08:56 PM Well, with all that Obama has on his plate and the reality that he needs to be re-elected in 2012 I firmly believe that shortly after he is re-elected he will propose decriminalizing the use of marijuana... I mean, I truely believe this... Prohibition didn't work in the 20's and it sho nuff ain't workin' now... What it is doin' is costing thousands of lives, billions of dollars and a clogged up court system... Stoner Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Amos Date: 13 Apr 09 - 09:06 PM Dear S.B.: You mioght want to consider changing the title of the thread to match the actuality. Something like "Bobert Dreams of the Decriminilization of Grass". A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bobert Date: 13 Apr 09 - 09:08 PM You wanta bet??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: GUEST,Smokey Date: 13 Apr 09 - 09:26 PM I'd pray if I wasn't an agnostic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Riginslinger Date: 13 Apr 09 - 09:52 PM What the poster is saying is, Obama thinks the chaos along the Mexican border needs to go on until the year 2013. If the American voters are good, and they re-elect him, he'll finally agree to slow down the violence by legalizing one of the drugs. If Obama would just simply legalize all of the drugs now, nobody else has to get shot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Amos Date: 13 Apr 09 - 10:31 PM Rig, you distort everything you see this way? How do you get any writing done with your eyeballs all crossed up? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 13 Apr 09 - 10:44 PM Obama can't legalize or decriminalize pot. Congress has to do that, and I doubt they'd be willing to do so. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Janie Date: 13 Apr 09 - 11:12 PM And even if they do, what do you want to bet that a positive urine screen will still keep you from getting a job.... Did you see where in WV and also in some other States that I can't remember right now, some law makers are proposing legislation to require drug testing with negative results as a condition of receiving unemployment benefits? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: GUEST,riverboat annie Date: 14 Apr 09 - 12:10 AM Bobert...you could just move, huh? Watch this page for laws |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Peace Date: 14 Apr 09 - 01:15 AM Goddamitbobertforgettingmyhopesupferfucksake |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Peace Date: 14 Apr 09 - 01:16 AM Sorry, I missed the spaces in that sentence. "Go dda mit bob er tforge tting myhop esup ferf uck sak e." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 09 - 01:33 AM Oh Peace, Are your pipe dreams going up in smoke?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Barry Finn Date: 14 Apr 09 - 01:59 AM Bobert, you'll be happy to know you are in the forefront & there's a place you can call home slightly to the north of you. In Boston, Pot was recently decriminalized. It (smoking) is now only a finable offence so it's fine to smoke but you still can't sell it. I don't know how much you're able to have on your person before it becomes much than just a fine. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Amergin Date: 14 Apr 09 - 03:38 AM Here in oregon we have medical marijuana.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Skivee Date: 14 Apr 09 - 05:00 AM So, good ole Ex-PCSBobert! I guess if things roll that way, you know what you'll be planting on the back-forty. I've heard that it's a good source of durable fiber; with a number of textile applications. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: 3refs Date: 14 Apr 09 - 07:36 AM "And even if they do, what do you want to bet that a positive urine screen will still keep you from getting a job...." I hope so! To get a little, you have to give a little! I've made many suggestions over the years with regards to alcohol, soft drugs and tobacco, and one of them would be that if your in this particular type of profession, you must be alcohol and/or drug free! We don't need stoned truckers or doctors! If they sell licences to establishments that allow them to serve/sell booze, why not sell them(licences)to allow smoking. You hang out your shingle, no one has to enter that is not comfortable with the situation and age limits would apply! And tax the shit out of it!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bobert Date: 14 Apr 09 - 07:40 AM Actually, hemp is the way of the future, Skivz... An acre of hemp will produce more fuel than an acre of any other crop... But nevermind the practical aspects... Reality is, as Amos has pointecd out, is that it will take an Act of Congress (literally) to make the changes needed... Obam has taken the first step in calling off the DEA bloodhounds in California and other states where mediacl marajuana is legal... That's all he can really do as president... But after his re-election, he'll use his office as a bully pulpit to lead the charge to end this round of prohibition... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: 3refs Date: 14 Apr 09 - 08:12 AM 1 acre of hemp will produce 1000 gals of methanol in about 4 months. I'll be the first to admit, methanol is not safe to smoke in any way, shape or form! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Janie Date: 14 Apr 09 - 08:19 AM I don't disagree, 3refs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: bubblyrat Date: 14 Apr 09 - 10:20 AM So where will it end ?? Legalise heroin? Cocaine? Child pornography? Rape? Murder? Sex slavery ?? There's lots of folks doing/using this sort of thing every day , so----- we must legalise it ?? Well, according to your collective reasoning ,Yes, but I don't think it will happen !! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Wesley S Date: 14 Apr 09 - 11:01 AM Something needs to be done to decriminalize it somehow. But that doesn't mean that I want to see it sold on street corners either. That would be a disaster. Here's hoping that users would either use it at home or take a taxi after smoking. That's my .02 cents. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: alanabit Date: 14 Apr 09 - 11:30 AM "So where will it end ?? Legalise heroin? Cocaine? Child pornography? Rape? Murder? Sex slavery ?? There's lots of folks doing/using this sort of thing every day , so----- we must legalise it ?? Well, according to your collective reasoning ,Yes, but I don't think it will happen!" I fear you have hold of the wrong end of the stick here, bubblyrat. With all respect, what you are expressing is moral outrage - a notoriously bad way of making legislation. What is being argued for is a policy, which takes the bottom out of the market of the drug barons. Prohibition made Al Capone strong as it has done for thugs like him ever since. I do not want to see any more helpless, pathetic junkies. However, as long as legislation keeps the price of smack high, there will always be a good reason for someone to want to bring that about. Let people get clean, affordable dope from a chemist and put abusers outside the law only when they damage other people. (Yes I would still hammer those who sold drugs illegally). If you want to make money out of gambling and alcohol, the best places to go are those countries where they are illegal. You will find prostitution in the bible in the Book of Joshua. If you know a way of legislating it out of existence, you clearly know something no one else does. The drug laws can never be better than a damage limitation exercise. I think Bobert's proposal makes more sense than most of the alternatives, which have been tried and failed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Riginslinger Date: 14 Apr 09 - 12:02 PM Yes, legalize heroin, but not crimes against people (i.e. rape, murder, child pornongraphy, etc.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: beardedbruce Date: 14 Apr 09 - 12:10 PM As a conservative ( any arguement?) I agree with John Campbell ( SF editor of Analog). All drugs should be legalized- BUT a person should be held responsible for their actions even if impaired by those drugs- just like alcohol. Drink all you want, but commit a crime while drunk and you should be punished- you chose to drink.# Hemp is a great crop- Hemp cloth is far superior to cotton, Requirea lot less chemical ( ie, oil-based) fertilizer, insect resistant ( so no insecticides) and the methanol can be made from the residue left AFTER cloth/fiber production. # One of JC's comments was that after a few generations, like Europeans and alcohol, those who could not control their use would kill themselves and their families off, so future generations would not have a significant problem with those drugs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Mrrzy Date: 14 Apr 09 - 12:27 PM Hemp is the way of the past, too - If Columbus' sails hadn't been hemp he'd have foundered half-way across... I think Obama will come out as an atheist in his 7th year, too. On verra! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 14 Apr 09 - 05:16 PM One way would be to legalize everything with an age limit. Start at 70 maybe, and bring it down progressively. Make all us old hippies happy, and it would mean that young people would be likely to see dope as akin to wearing carpet slippers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: beardedbruce Date: 14 Apr 09 - 05:19 PM "One way would be to legalize everything with an age limit. Start at 70 maybe, and bring it down progressively." How about 50? Just to start with? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bobert Date: 14 Apr 09 - 05:45 PM Yo, Bubblyrat, As Alanbit said, what we are talking about here are "victimless crimes"... Musrder and rape are not victimless... There is the big difference between a guy smokin' a joint and a guy shootin' his neighbor... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Joe_F Date: 14 Apr 09 - 08:26 PM It *could* happen. The legalization of ethanol, in the U.S., happened with surprising suddenness at a time when it seemed politically impossible. There came a time (at the Democratic convention in 1932) when, essentially, some politicians on the platform committee dared to say "What the hell are we doing this for?" & risk antagonizing the Protestant clergy. Mencken was there, and he wrote an amusing story. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Peace Date: 14 Apr 09 - 09:02 PM Sixty-one seems the right age for this ol' boy. However, I'd invite ya all over. As GfS said, it's a pipe dream. Thing is--QUALITY CONTROL. I personally have never smoked marijuana and I never will, but a friend of mine did and he told me all about it. Seems that back in the 1960s, the THC content of what people called 'grass' was an average of 5%. These days it's about 25%--from rumours I've heard. So, like, uh, five tokes then was like one toke now. Jaysus. Talk about changing spark plugs on Pluto. If it ever IS legalized I'd suggest that those of you with a few bucks to invest look closely at purchasing stock in the Sara Lee company, or jujube manufacturers. Talk about yer bull markets on Wall Street. And speaking of bulls, would the legalization of MaryJane extend to animals? Will this bring outrage from PETA? Will it then allow us to determine WHO put the bomp in the bomp sha bomp sha bomp? Will we finally find out who killed JR? Will we care? Stay tuned for uh, whatever. [GfS, that was good.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Peace Date: 14 Apr 09 - 09:18 PM The reason I never smoked marijuana is that I watched the movie "Reefer Madness" and didn't want that to happen to me--jumping outta windows and shit like that. I will never forget that guy's hands as he took a toke of mj--his hands shaking like a sail in the wind, like jello on a wet dog, like leaves in a hurricane, like Suzette who used to dance at the corner bar, like houses in an earthquake, like a slinkie going down stairs, like elevators with broken cables, likeworms with bad dts, like tidal waves in the desert, like balloons in the air, like planes about to take off with their brakes applied so the don't really take off until the brakes are unapplied and then they do unless they run out of fuel that is bought from OPEC nations in war-torn parts of the world on CNN or FOX news if you have a TV and watch that stuff, like who DID kill JR and does anyone really give a rat's ass? I ask you--well, I won't again because I already did. Anyway, who else here likes Sara Lee? Just wondering. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Jeri Date: 14 Apr 09 - 09:24 PM So you never smoked it because you ate all the brownies before you watched Reefer Madness? (Apparently about 20 minutes ago.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Peace Date: 14 Apr 09 - 09:28 PM High, Jeri, like, uh, high. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bobert Date: 14 Apr 09 - 10:09 PM Smoke another joint, Brucie... That was some dynomite rant stuff fir a guy who claims to have never partook... Me thinks that the pot has effected yer powers to tell the truth... (Reefer Madness, Boberdz...) But nevermind Brucies messed up state... I'd like to get my hands on some of that one-toke stuff... Seems that about all I have seen is the same old crappy Mexican (with seeds) crap that we smoked in the 60's... Where is this good stuff??? Yeah, there was a time when we were getting the good stuff from Columbia and then the DEA messed that up ancd now it's all expensive crap... No thanks... This ol' hillbilly gonna continue growin' my own... And, guess what??? They won't catch me... Been doin' it for 40 years and I learnt up all the tricks... You won't find it... Screw Mexican weed... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Riginslinger Date: 15 Apr 09 - 05:52 PM I watched "Reefer Madness," jumped out of a window and died. That was forty years ago; I never really got over it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bobert Date: 15 Apr 09 - 05:59 PM That explains alot, Rigs... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: GUEST,donuel Date: 15 Apr 09 - 06:50 PM having 3oz or less is only a civil fine in Boston |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Peace Date: 15 Apr 09 - 07:02 PM I don't think it's all THAT civil, Don. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bobert Date: 15 Apr 09 - 07:20 PM 3 ounces ain't chicken feed... With the stuff going for $50 to $75 a quarter counce that has a street value of between $600 and $900... That ain't like casual use... Doesn't change the situation, however, one bit... Heck, if you wanta carry a pound of it around with you you oughhta be able to do so... I mean, prorhibition is prohabition... Ain't about quantity... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Peace Date: 15 Apr 09 - 07:37 PM In graphic form. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Peace Date: 15 Apr 09 - 07:39 PM Just found my 'dream job'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Amos Date: 15 Apr 09 - 07:57 PM You have TOO MUCH TIME on your hands, Bwuce!!! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bob the Postman Date: 15 Apr 09 - 07:58 PM I believe that those flavoured filter cigarillos sold in individual plastic tubes were invented so that the packaging and distribution systems will be in place when legalisation finally happens. It'll be so sad when you have to buy your dope from General Mills and other mega-corps in the form of a factory-made blunt--but it'll be better than copping a criminal record, I suppose. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: 3refs Date: 16 Apr 09 - 07:17 AM If you treat your plants(indica or sativa)like Gramma's roses, it's easy to get more than a pound a plant, but the average is more like a couple or three ounces. So I can see where the limits might seem high to some. Is the best stuff grown in B.C. or California? Let the debate commence! We've had two of the biggest busts in Canadian history in my neck of the woods. The first was decades ago and they got caught because it grew over top of the corn. The latest was found at the Molson brewery just to the south of us. And some of you wonder why Canadian beer is soooooooo good! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bobert Date: 16 Apr 09 - 07:33 AM Yeah, for plants grown in the "wild" about 3 ounces of bud is about all one can expect... Now tended plants will yield alot more, especially if you bed them down to the ground early and let about 6 fett of stalk become root... The problem with tending plant is that those are the folks who get caught... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Riginslinger Date: 16 Apr 09 - 09:58 PM And Obama got got not decriminalizing them soon enough, hence the drug war in Mexico. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Bob the Postman Date: 17 Apr 09 - 09:15 AM Have another hit, Riginslinger, you're still semi-coherent. Can Bobert, the world-famous expert on wimmens, explain why chicks don't dig weed? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: Georgiansilver Date: 17 Apr 09 - 11:24 AM Question:- If pot is legalised... who will be authorised to sell it and will the prices be fixed? Also if the price is fixed then will there be a black market trade still??.... Also, when it was proven that cigarettes damage your health, people were suing the tobacco companies for misleading them about how good cigarettes are for you.... when the true figures of damaged persons due to pot comes to light, who will get sued for the pot smokers bad health??... Just a few thoughts there... your views welcome. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: beardedbruce Date: 17 Apr 09 - 11:51 AM http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6670 At least the tax system is in place... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pot to be Decriminalized in 2013... From: 3refs Date: 18 Apr 09 - 02:04 AM "Question:- If pot is legalised... who will be authorised to sell it and will the prices be fixed? Also if the price is fixed then will there be a black market trade still??.... Also, when it was proven that cigarettes damage your health, people were suing the tobacco companies for misleading them about how good cigarettes are for you.... when the true figures of damaged persons due to pot comes to light, who will get sued for the pot smokers bad health??... Just a few thoughts there... your views welcome. Best wishes, Mike." Answers: We....the people who are trying to find some kind of middle ground, who translate it into language easily understood by all(even the government)! The price doesn't have to be fixed in any way. Do you pay the same price for Crown Royal as you do for XXX! Now that we have said "OK, now you can legally promote, purchase, posses and use cannabis and hemp products, we want you to be well aware of the facts! You could grow a third testicle or breast! In using this product, you could also quite possibly be responsible for changing the world! We now live in a better place in regards to pollution, world hunger, textiles, building materials, health products, violence and countless other aspects of life on this planet. Excessive use of this product will make you remove the bullets from your gun! |
