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Lyr Req: Early in the Mornin' (prison work song)

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Early in the Mornin' (prison work song)
From: GUEST,SoSo Q
Date: 11 May 13 - 02:45 AM

Early in the Mornin'

lyrics (see notes below)
Well, it's early in the mornin--in the mornin'
Baby, when I rise, Lordy my my,
Well, it's early every mornin—early mornin'
A-baby when I rise well-a.
Well- it's early in the mornin-the mornin'
Baby, when I rise, Lordy baby,
You have-all I have a misery, hey-Berta,
Was-, in my right side, well-a,
R-in-a my right side, Lordy baby,
R-in-a my right side, Lordy sugar.
Well I have a misery, Berta,
R-in a my right side, well-a.
Well-a Lord, Lordy, berta
-Lordy-Berta, Well, it's Lord
(you keep a-talkin'), babe,
Well- a Lord, Lordy Rosa
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
Well-a, whosonever told it, that he told a
He told a dirty lie, babe.
Well-a, whosonever told it, that he told a
-He told a dirty lie,a. Well-a
-
a, whosonever told it, that he told a
He told a dirty lie, babe.
Well the eagle on the dollar-quarter,
He gonna rise and fly, well-a.
He gonna rise and fly, sugar.
He gonna rise and fly, well-a.
Well the eagle on the dollar-quarter,
He gonna rise and fly, well-a.
(Chorus)
Well-a Lord, -Lordy, Rosie
Well a Lord, - Lordy, baby
Well, a Lord, rose, Lordy suga
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
Well, rocks 'n gravel make-a,
Make a solid road, sugar.
it takes-a rocks-and , gravel make-a
to make a solid road, well-a.
It takes-a rocks-and, gravel make- a
To make a solid road, suga.
It takes a good-lookin' woman to make-a
To make a good-lookin' whore, well-a,
To make a good-lookin' whore,
Lord, Baby, To make a good-lookin' whore
Lord, sugar, It takes a good lookin' woman to make-a,
To make a good lookin' whore, well-a.
(Chorus)
Well, it's-a Lord, Lordy, Rosie
-Well, it's Lord (you keep a talkin'), babe,
Well, it's Lord, Ro-Lordy-Rosie,
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
Boys, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the
On the schoolhouse door, sugar.
Well, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the
heRe-on the schoolhouse door, well-a.
Well, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the
On theschoolhouse door, sugar.
Well he pecks so hard,Lordy, baby,
Until his pecker got sore, well-a,
Until his pecker got sore, Lordy, baby,
Until his pecker got sore, Lord, sugar.
Well he pecks so hard, Lord,my my,
Until his pecker got sore, well-a. (Chorus)

Well, it's-a LOrd, Lordy, Rosie
Well, it's Lord (you keep a-talkin'), babe,
Well, it's Lord, Ro -Lordy-Rosie,
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
Well, hain't been to Georgia, boys, but,
Well, it's I been told, sugar.
Well, hain't been to Georgia, Georgia.
But, it's I been told, well-a.
Well, haint been to Georgia, Georgia.
But, it's I been told, Lord, mymy.
END
From, "Prison Songs: Historical Recordings from Parchman Farm 1947


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Early in the Mornin' (prison work song)
From: GUEST,Here are those lyrics
Date: 11 May 13 - 02:41 AM

Early in the Mornin'

lyrics (see notes below)
Well, it's early in the mornin--in the mornin'
Baby, when I rise, Lordy my my,
Well, it's early every mornin—early mornin'
A-baby when I rise well-a.
Well- it's early in the mornin-the mornin'
Baby, when I rise, Lordy baby,
You have-all I have a misery, hey-Berta,
Was-, in my right side, well-a,
R-in-a my right side, Lordy baby,
R-in-a my right side, Lordy sugar.
Well I have a misery, Berta,
R-in a my right side, well-a.
Well-a Lord, Lordy, berta
-Lordy-Berta, Well, it's Lord
(you keep a-talkin'), babe,
Well- a Lord, Lordy Rosa
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
Well-a, whosonever told it, that he told a
He told a dirty lie, babe.
Well-a, whosonever told it, that he told a
-He told a dirty lie,a. Well-a
-
a, whosonever told it, that he told a
He told a dirty lie, babe.
Well the eagle on the dollar-quarter,
He gonna rise and fly, well-a.
He gonna rise and fly, sugar.
He gonna rise and fly, well-a.
Well the eagle on the dollar-quarter,
He gonna rise and fly, well-a.
(Chorus)
Well-a Lord, -Lordy, Rosie
Well a Lord, - Lordy, baby
Well, a Lord, rose, Lordy suga
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
Well, rocks 'n gravel make-a,
Make a solid road, sugar.
it takes-a rocks-and , gravel make-a
to make a solid road, well-a.
It takes-a rocks-and, gravel make- a
To make a solid road, suga.
It takes a good-lookin' woman to make-a
To make a good-lookin' whore, well-a,
To make a good-lookin' whore,
Lord, Baby, To make a good-lookin' whore
Lord, sugar, It takes a good lookin' woman to make-a,
To make a good lookin' whore, well-a.
(Chorus)
Well, it's-a Lord, Lordy, Rosie
-Well, it's Lord (you keep a talkin'), babe,
Well, it's Lord, Ro-Lordy-Rosie,
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
Boys, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the
On the schoolhouse door, sugar.
Well, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the
heRe-on the schoolhouse door, well-a.
Well, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the
On theschoolhouse door, sugar.
Well he pecks so hard,Lordy, baby,
Until his pecker got sore, well-a,
Until his pecker got sore, Lordy, baby,
Until his pecker got sore, Lord, sugar.
Well he pecks so hard, Lord,my my,
Until his pecker got sore, well-a. (Chorus)

Well, it's-a LOrd, Lordy, Rosie
Well, it's Lord (you keep a-talkin'), babe,
Well, it's Lord, Ro -Lordy-Rosie,
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
Well, hain't been to Georgia, boys, but,
Well, it's I been told, sugar.
Well, hain't been to Georgia, Georgia.
But, it's I been told, well-a.
Well, haint been to Georgia, Georgia.
But, it's I been told, Lord, mymy.
END
From, "Prison Songs: Historical Recordings from Parchman Farm 1947


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Early in the Mornin' (prison work song)
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 02:15 PM

Those lyrics are wrong.

river on my right side. Not misery


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Early in the Mornin' (prison work song)
From: Sonikmyst
Date: 05 Jul 11 - 02:10 PM

Shouldn't there be a line at the end about sweet jelly rolls?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Early in the Mornin' (prison work song)
From: GUEST,Writer in the Deep South
Date: 09 May 10 - 06:37 PM

I am writing a book about a Southern prison that still has a working farm. Between each chapter, I am including lyrics from a song that captures the mood of that section of the novel. I would be very appreciative of any lyrics to prison songs that you might have handy, or any links that might be helpful.
Thanks so much in advance for your assistance.
P.S. Today I am looking for a song about being returned to prison after a brief parole or escape, but I will need a total of about 15 songs, so please feel free to send whatever you have. THANKS AGAIN!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Early in the Mornin' (prison work song)
From: GUEST,jj
Date: 07 Dec 09 - 06:43 AM

Thanks for the post of the lyrics.

Please check out Folkstreams.com for more info on Alan Lomax. Excellent videos there! Some you can't find anymore. Enjoy!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song - Early in the Mornin'
From: GUEST,cg
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 07:34 PM

Thank you very much for the axe-rhythm education and for the lyrics.

I came across this song by chance and, like Yoda2U, I love it, and wanted to find the lyrics.

I didn't even know what it was, but a search for "work songs" led to
"When I went to Leland" (same people / same tune / different words), and thankfully, eventually to here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song - Early in the Mornin'
From: Barry Finn
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 09:36 PM

Azizi
the notes come fro the link I posted just above Reuben's post.
"Prison Songs" Volume 1: Murderous Home.
Historical Pecordings from Parchman Farm 1947-48
on the 'Alan Lomax Collection' put out on the Rounder Records label CD#1714

Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song - Early in the Mornin'
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 09:04 PM

Thanks, GUEST,Reuben Roth for posting those lyrics.

You wrote that they are "from the CD liner notes". Would you please indicate which CD?

Thanks again,

Azizi


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Subject: Lyr Add: EARLY IN THE MORNIN' (prison work song)
From: GUEST,Reuben Roth
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 04:31 PM

Early in the Mornin' (lyrics from the CD liner notes)

Well, it's early in the mor--in the mornin'
Baby, when I rise, Lordy mama,
Well, it's early every mor--in the mornin'
A-baby when I rise well-a.
Well-a, when I rise, well-a,
Well-a it's early in the mor-in the mornin'
Baby, when I rise, Lordy baby,
You have-it's I have a misery, Berta,
Wa-, in my right side, well-a,
R-in-a my right side, Lordy baby,
R-in-a my right side, Lordy sugar.
Well it's I have a misery, Berta,
R-in a my right side, well-a.

CHORUS:
Well-a, it's-a, Lordy, Ro-Lordy-Berta,
Well, it's Lord (you keep a-talkin'), babe,
Well, it's Lord, Ro-Lordy-Rosie,
Well, it's, o Lord, Gal, well-a.
END CHORUS

Well-a, whosonever told it, that he told a-
He told a dirty lie, babe.
Well-a, whosonever told it, that he told a-
He told a dirty lie, well-a.
Well-a, whosonever told it, that he told a-
He told a dirty lie, babe.
Well the eagle on the dollar-quarter,
He gonna rise and fly, well-a.
He gonna rise and fly, sugar.
He gonna rise and fly, well-a.
Well the eagle on the dollar-quarter,
He gonna rise and fly, well-a. (Chorus)

Well, rocks 'n gravel make-a,
Make a solid road, sugar.
Well-a, it takes-a rocks-a, gravel make-a--
To make a solid road, well-a.
It takes-a rocks-a, gravel make a--
To make a solid road, well-a.
It takes a good-lookin' woman to make-a--
To make a good-lookin' whore, well-a,
It takes a good-lookin' woman, Lord, Baby,
To make a good-lookin' whore, Lord, sugar,
It takes a good lookin' woman to make-a,
To make a good lookin' whore, well-a. (Chorus)

Boys, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the--
On the schoolhouse door, sugar.
Well, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the--
R-on the schoolhouse door, well-a.
Well, the peckerwood a-peckin' on the--
On the schoolhouse door, sugar.
Well he pecks so hard, Lordy, baby,
Until his pecker got sore, well-a,
Until his pecker got sore, Lordy, baby,
Until his pecker got sore, Lord, sugar.
Well he pecks so hard, Lord, mama,
Until his pecker got sure, well-a. (Chorus)


Well, hain't been to Georgia, boys, but,
Well, it's I been told, sugar.
Well, hain't been to Georgia, Georgia.
But, it's I been told, well-a.
Well, haint been to Georgia, Georgia.
But, it's I been told, Lord, mama.

END


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song - Early in the Mornin'
From: Barry Finn
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 12:23 AM

Sorry, let's see if I can get the link right this time.

Prison Songs

ah, I think that's right but if not here's the address & you can copy it & paste it in

http://www.rounder.com/?id=album.php&catalog_id=5022

Barry,pleasenotadoctor


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song - Early in the Mornin'
From: Barry Finn
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 12:17 AM

Hi Yoda
Well you can listen to the CD I referenced that the "other" version's on, in the Lomax Collection (check it out on this link)-"Prison Songs" Volume 1 'Murderous Home') 'or' in early Oct. come to the Dc Getaway frequented by many of the Mudcatter here & Ken & I will do it for you 'love' as a request.
(you can see past threads about "Getaway" info, as a new one, as far as I know hasn't been started yet for 2009).

Hi Ken
I listened to the missing line in the chorus that you noted & I can't make it out either.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song - Early in the Mornin'
From: Yoda2U
Date: 19 Jun 09 - 01:28 PM

"Dr." Finn,

I am intrigued by the other version of "Early in the Mornin'" you mentioned. How do I listen to it? (I have Gollum eyes from spending so much time online that I probably miss a lot of things.)

BTW, having listened to "my" version, I can almost hear the rhythm of the axes as described by you.

Thank you again! I agree with Roger in Baltimore--there is a wealth of knowledge here, and how wonderful to get it from erudite & somewhat whimsical human being instead of having to wade through endless BS online!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 17 Jun 09 - 03:34 PM

Yoda/2U,

This thread is a sample of what I love about Mudcat. There is such a wide amount of information and there are people like Barry and Ken who know a great deal in some specialty. Many years ago there was a member Bruce O. who was a true scholar of English folk music. He passed several years ago and I miss his knowledge.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Barry Finn
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 07:46 PM

You're very welcome but I have no letters attached after my name.

BTW, the "Early In The Morning " (you may have to scroll up a bit) song that Ken & I both do is a double cross cutting song, the fastest of the prison worksong. You might want to give that one a listen just to compare the differences between the 2 songs.

Where logging the axe comes down between the legs making the arc that the blade traves longer the cross cut is a sideways swing into a standing tree in order to fell the tree. The "double" comes in when instead of 4 men standing at the 4 compass points around the tree you have 8 man at the same compass points so the doubled up men are working back to back swing in opposite directions & as one swings into the tree the opposite is bring the axe back out> If they struck together, no problem but whenb they both brought the axes back out their axes would cross & clash. Newbies wen't allowed to just get in on the action, they had to be brought along so that they would learn the ropes in order to survive mishaps.
So the beat bewteen a cross cut doubles in tempo when you double cross cut

Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Yoda2U
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 01:55 PM

Dear Dr. Finn,

My jaw has been open since the first word of your reply. I can see why you have been dubbed "Dr."! (Unless you have an MD or PhD ;o))

Jeepers! Where do you get all this information???!!??

I am almost fogetting to thank you so very much for all the information & lyrics. Though they all may not be the ones that fit "my" "Early in the Mornin' " they enrich my listening to it--which is a lot. It is one of those songs that's hard to burn out on.

Rest assured, prison, field holler, work, and now, logging songs are a solid part of my favorite genres (classical, soundtrack, early & original rock n roll, gospel, acoustic blues, shape note, bluegrass, all types of folk music + a few more).

Sea chanteys over prsion songs? I suppose . . . ;o)))))

Thank you very, very much for the education! I hope to receive more.


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Subject: ADD Version: Early in the Morning
From: Barry Finn
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 11:48 PM

Hi Yoda & welcome to mudcat

There are 2 different distinct prison worksong by the name of "Early In The Morning". Both Ken & I do one, sometimes together, sorry it's not the one you're looking for.
The one you're looking for is found as you know on the Alan Lomax Collection--"Southern Journey, Vol. 5: Bad Man Ballads" recorded at Camp B Lambert, Miss on Sept, 1959 from the singing of Johnny Lee Moore & group.
It can also be found sung slightly different but used for the same type of work (logging-standinng on a felled tree after it's branches have been cleared & chopping down, with the axe between one's feet in order to cut the long log into small bits- a moderatly paced song) on "Prison Worksongs on the Arhoolie lable (CD-448) recorded at the Louisiana State pen at Angola by Dr Harry Oster 1959, ffrom the singing of Johnny Butler & group. Also on, & most recently collected by Bruce Jackson on Rounder records at the Ellis facility in Texas on March 1966. This recording can also be found in Jackson's accompanying printed collection under the same title name as the CD "Wake Up Dead Man" still very much available on CD (CD2013) & in print on page 269-273) published by Harvard University Press 1972. This was collected from the singing of Willie "Cowboy" Craig & group

Jackson's lyrics aren't full though some what close to Ken's posted above but with a different chorus. The group had trouble singing this older song which starts out with lyrics often assocated & found in the singing of "Midnight Special" & then follows into a verse found in "Hammering On A Live Oak Log". The singer here starts off in a regular 8 beat phrase but after 2 verses changes to a 7 beat phase, with the group havng a hard time followint the switch the leader changes to a different song. Here is those 2 verses with chorus;

EARLY IN THE MORNING


Wake up in the mornin', when the ding dong ring
Go a marching to the table, got the same damn thing
Well it's nothing on the table, but spoon and a pan
If you say anything about it, catch the heel out of the man

Chorus
Hollerin' oh my Lordy, oh my Lordy, Lord
Hollerin' oh my Lordy, oh my Lordy, Lord

Well I'm down in the bottom, on a live oak log
Well I'm down there rolling, like a lowdown dog
Well the Captain and the Sargent, come a riding alone
Say, You get togo to hammering, if you want to go home

On the "Wake Up Dead Man" recording it's pretty much the same tune but done a bit faster than the Lomax version

The next version is done quite differently. Using the basic tune as the others it varies quite a bit with the phrasing, rhythm & pacing.


EARLY IN THE MORNING

Early in the mornin' by the ding dong ring
Wake up in the mornin', serve the same old thing

Chorus
Oh man, oh, oh, oh man

Wasn't I lucky last summer when I got my time
My buddy got 100, I got 99

Whose that man , buddy, on that big white horse
I don't know his name but they call him bsoo

If you see my sister tell her to pray for me
Tell my mother don't write to me

Tell my buddy he got to write no mo'
I got a long time, sinner, they gonna see me no mo'

there are another 15 verses but I don't think this is close to the one you want so I'll end it here.


I'm glad to know there's at least someone whose interested in these songs. Ken, Neil & me are finding it a bit hard to work our repitoire of prison worksongs into our performances all any ne wants are those damn sea shanties. I was begining to think that in the near future we may never find an audience for this genre anymore, outside of a few mudcatters lkie Roger who also has a knack for these songs.

Hi Roger & hi to you too Ken, lets get together at the Getaway & sing at least 4 or 5 of these things in Oct before we forget them

Ken, you & I should work up a bunck for England.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Yoda2U
Date: 14 Jun 09 - 12:26 PM

Thank you for the welcome AzizI!

Thank you, everyone! I've just added the lyrics above to my iTunes & polished up the playlists, which is also a small joyful "waste" of time! Oh, these small & large pleasures! ;o)

My local library has a limited collection of titles from the Alan Lomax collection. They have "Bad Man Ballads" but the other prison song collection is "lost." I just hope someone really has it & enjoys it! At any rate, I shall see if the liner notes are still attached. Perhaps . . . ;o)

Am slapping my forehead for thinking too much inside the lines re libraries. It had not dawned on me that my local library could request materials from New Zealand, Maryland, etc. I am in hopes that a library in the east (I live in the midwest) will send a rare copy of Elmer Bernstein's Film Music Collection which is a 12-CD collection of Bernstein conducting the original soundtrack arrangements from "Wuthering Heights," and other wonderful movies.

I shall check back later to see if Dr. Finn (?! ;o)) has shown up.

Have an already wonderful Sunday!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Azizi
Date: 13 Jun 09 - 10:15 AM

Who knew tracking down lyrics could be so much fun & lead to learning so much & that there are so many others like me! ;o)
-Yoda/Judy

Welcome to Mudcat, Yoda/Judy. There's a number of people here we also love to discuss the sources of songs, track down lyrics, and discuss the meanings of those lyrics. You are among friends!

I'm sorry that I've nothing to contribute regarding that particular song-having never heard it. But as someone who sometimes post lengthy comments, I wanted to let you know that the length of your 12 Jun 09 - 11:24 AM comment was fine.

As an aside, when I write short or lengthy posts, I like to break up the comments in short paragraphs like I'm doing here. Sometimes I also add asterisks ** in between paragraphs that are about somewhat different but related comments-like I'll do below. I suppose these different subject comments can submitted as different posts. And sometimes I posts them separately which-IMO-is kinda cheating because I'm trying to achieve a critical mass of posts which-I've found-some new threads (which don't have hot/timely titles) before other Mudcat members and guests will sit up and take notice to that thread. I think the critical number is about #7 (but it could be as short as #5). t

**

Yoda/Judy, you asked "Is it fair to post lyrics I've found from other sources on the Internet?" It's done all the time here as long as you credit that Internet source, preferably with a hyperlink (which we here refer to as "blue clickies". If you know how to copy & paste, then making hyperlinks is easy. Just put your mouse (if you still use a mouse-I still don't know how to use my laptop without one)over the web address (URL) at the top of the web page you want to copy, and then click "copy". Click the "make a link (blue clicky)feature found at the bottom of this box, and follow the easy instructions that pop up.

**
Also, Yoda/Judy, be careful about submitting post with just the name "Guest". As per new rules at this site, guests (and members who aren't signed in) have to add a name to that Guest title, or their posts may be deleted.

Best wishes,

Ms. Azizi-from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, city of champions!!

:o)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Yoda2U
Date: 13 Jun 09 - 09:38 AM

Dear All,

What a way to start the day! Who knew that finding lyrics could be such a moving experience. Not me!

Thank you all so much! I am on my way to meet friends, then have to do some work, but now I have something to look forward to when I return home--I'm gonna copy those lyrics down, listen to the song again, & see what I hear.

I took my iPod to my parents yesterday (they are both 88) to see if they had ever heard some of the music I've been collecting--"Idumea," and some other shape note singing. My dad (a Missouri boy) lived on a farm & they'd have weekly or monthly house parties & barn dances. My mother is from east Texas w/her people having settled the area largely through logging. She said she'd heard that type of singing before, but thought it rather low-class. Dad likes the bluegrass music better. However, I am still thrilled when I hear those voices raised as much as from a Beethoven symphony, "my" prison work song, or . . . I could go, and I AM going on!

It's so good to be here! Thanks again--very much!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:56 PM

Mr. KEN SHATZ

Thank you ... and another thank you...for the transcription.

AS Yoda2U noted it IS a powerful piece...the printed lyrics do not do the rythmn justice.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

There is still glory to be reaped in the Fields of our Lord.


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Subject: ADD Version: Early in the Morning
From: Ken Schatz
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:19 PM

OK, here follows Lomax's transcription:

EARLY IN THE MORNING

Wake up in the mornin', well-a,
With a cup and a pan (2x)
Well, you say anything about it,
Well-a have trouble out the man. (2x)
Oh captain, captain, don'tcha,
Well-a, know my name? (2x)
Well, I used to be the porter, well-a,
On the southbound train. (2x)
I'm the same grand rascal, well-a,
Stole your watch and chain (2x)

Chorus:
Cryin' ol' Mamie, well-a, Oh Lordy, gal! (2x)
Well, Mamie in Meridian, livin' at ease, (2x)
Well, I'm on Parchman, got to work or leave. (2x)
I'll call Alberta from the woman's wall. (2x)
Chorus

Well, look over yonder, sun done gone, (2x)
Well, way over yonder, where the western sun. (2x)
Chorus
-----

Right. A couple of problems, though:

1. This transcription is a little loose. If you listen to the field recording, you'll hear a couple of small deviations.

2. Before "I'll call Alberta..." there is a whole other line that I can't quite make out, and which Lomax omits - I think because he couldn't make it out either. It's a veritable mondegreen festival, something like:

"I'm gonna holler like - [give a mighty good squall]?"

But it seems like that might not be it. I've done some cursory checking for the couplet in other references, books and recordings, and I can't find what it might be. Paging Dr. Finn! Barry might know.


PS About the shouts at the end, William Ferris, in Blues from the Delta, says:

"When a tree is cut or the hoers reach the end of a row, the caller signals the end of his chant by crying 'Mud! Mud! Mud!'"

Welcome Yoda/Judy. Hope that's a help. I'll keep an eye out for that line.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Ken Schatz
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:43 PM

Thank you, Roger, indeed I do have it, and have been meaning to learn it :) Sorry I have to run out the door right now, but if nobody beats me to it, I'll post the lyrics as soon as I have a few minutes - probably tonight.

Cheers,
Ken


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:28 AM

Roger,

Hello! Thank you for the reply! It sounds like this is a real community. Wish I had those liner notes (and CDs, or even better--the LPs) for all the Alan Lomax Collections.

I shall check back soon.

Who knew tracking down lyrics could be so much fun & lead to learning so much & that there are so many others like me! ;o)

Yoda/Judy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:24 AM

Dear Gargoyle,

Yes!!!! I am listening to it right now, and "Used to be . . ." are the 3rd verse (or thereabouts) lyrics. Do you have the rest?!?

Having listened to it so much, I've picked up quite a bit of the words, but I'm only able to come up with about 1/2 of them. The rest would turn out to be mondegreens, which may be amusing, but not respectful or productive.

Pandora (online radio) played a Texas Gladden song that drew me in. I promptly went to iTunes to see if I could find it in the Alan Lomax collections & found enough to keep me happy for a long time. I love gospel, Sacred Harp/shape note singing, the prison work/field holler songs, and the "back hills" folk songs (e.g., Almeda Riddle, Texas Gladden), and all of it. The shape note/Sacred Harp lyrics are especially difficult to understand, but I've been able to track down most of them.

I would love to contribute to Mudcat, and will continue to look around at the different posts to see what I might offer. Is it fair to post lyrics I've found from other sources on the Internet? If so, I can certainly post several of the shape note/sacred harp lyrics.

Lyric-finding & following the trails of old time music have become a new hobby for me. Mudcat is the best "encyclopedia" I've found.

Being new, I'll bet most already know this website. I found it last night & was captivated! http://oldweirdamerica.wordpress.com/
It's "Old, Weird America," and though there are frequent misspellings & such, it has several complete collections of such groups as the Nellstone's Hawaiians.

This is now too long for a forum post. I'm just so excited to think there's a chance I might be able to read all the lyrics to "Early in the Mornin'."

Thank you all for your replies & I shall check back soon!

;o) Yoda/Judy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:16 AM

Gargoyle,

That's the right song. I listened to a sample on Amazon.com.

Yoda,

I hope that Barry Finn or Ken Schatz will chime in on this. They may know it by heart. I will check at home. I believe I can find the CD and perhaps can get some information.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:20 AM

Let's assure we are on the right page

Used to be a porter
On the south bound train
I'm the same feller
Stole your watch and chain.

?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 05:44 AM

Yoda2U - Welcome to the Mudcat.

Since you have access to this stomping, swaying, "hard" song...and have listened to it...may I suggest that you become the first to transcribe it and post it to the internet? To Mudcat specifically.

You will dicover - rather than you having gained one friend - you will have several hundred thanking and thinking of you for years to come.

Welcome again.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Leadfingers
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 09:05 PM

Sorry I cant help with your request Yoda but that isnt in my library !
Welcome to the Cat anyway


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Subject: Lyr Req: Prison Work Song
From: Yoda2U
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 08:39 PM

Hello! Just found this site after 3 hours searching for the lyrics to this prison work song: Early in the Mornin'. I love this song! It's not as difficult to find a site to listen to it--it is a stomping, swaying, "hard" song. I got more info from Mudcat Cafe than anywhere else. After reading a lot of posts, it seems like a lot of good people are here so I decided to join.

There is an old share about this from 2005. I read all the posts, saw quite a bit of discussion, but no lyrics. (Seems a couple of other folk had the same difficulty I'm having.)

This song is from the Alan Lomax Collection--"Southern Journey, Vol. 5: Bad Man Ballads."--

I've been to the online Library of Congress, the Bodleian (sigh, what a wonderful place!), folk song, work song, field & holler song sites, and all the sundry stuff you get in between.

If anyone from the 2005 posts are still here, did anyone ever find the lyrics? Or, if anyone has the collection with the liner notes, the lyrics should be there (and you are my new best friend). ;o)

Thanks in advance for reading this & for any help you can give me!


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