BS: Boycott ANY thread

Subject: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 06:12 AM

There are SO many threads that I Look At once , decide NO Interest and never look at again !
This is a Thread for any one who feels the same and wants to comment without putting a thread back to the top !

I'll start with BOTH the Michael Jackson threads .

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 06:30 AM

Hmmmmm.... Wonder if there's a case for a "Hide" facility to mirror the "Trace" option i.e. you could filter out threads, the mere titles of which produce an allergic reaction - not to mention their contents!

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 08:11 AM

So this thread is for putting folks onto threads you think they shouldn't be put onto?!

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 08:18 AM

Yeah......Like yours.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: number 6
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 08:29 AM

How about banning all synthetic threads.

allowing only all natural organic fibres such as cotton, linen and of course hemp.

biLL


ok ... i'm otta here

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Emma B
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 08:32 AM

From: McGrath of Harlow - PM
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 04:12 PM

I'm waiting to see if someone starts a thread called "I am boycotting the 'I am boycotting the MJ obit thread.'"

Pretty close McGrath :)
p.s. what numbers do you have for next week's lottery?

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 08:47 AM

Title of thread may not be congruent with it but this is that thread which boycotts the original and boycotts the boycott..... Who is going to boycott the "Boycott ANY thread" thread????

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Wesley S
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 09:03 AM

Just say NO to boycotts!

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 09:16 AM

What about girlcotts?

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 09:19 AM

Oh Captain, my Captain!

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 11:35 AM

I dis/agree.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 11:39 AM

Boycott ALL threads, I say! And start now!

Imagine how desperate and lonely Max and the clones will get if we all go away and leave them to languish here in isolation. Ha! (cackling fiendishly at the thought of it)

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Dead Horse
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 11:50 AM

Anything with "......... - your caption" in the title.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 12:09 PM

:~)

There is a site feature that allows one to boycott ALL the BS threads (where Obits usually pile up, after a few fresh days up top for departed musico's), that is really quite handy for healing the bad-news or too-much-strife malaise.

Since this IS a music site after all, wouldn't it make sense to take breaks not from the site in total, as soe do-- but from the BS section?

A lot of us, when doing that, "sentence" ourselves to a certain length of time to post only ANSWERS to music requests. Self-imposed disciplines can be so... fruitful and growth-provoking. ;~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 12:13 PM

The thing is LH that your boycotting of all threads would no doubt be boycotted!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 12:21 PM

"So this thread is for putting folks onto threads you think they shouldn't be put onto?! "

You finally found a home then, WAV? *LOL*

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 12:54 PM

Music threads can be every bit as disputatious and aggressive as BS threads.

The easiest thing to do if this kind of thing really upsets you is to comply with the suggestion in the heading of this thread, and not open any of them.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 12:57 PM

Boycott threads,


Go nekkid!

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 01:10 PM

Music threads can be every bit as disputatious and aggressive as BS threads.

Moreso. In a BS thread, everyone has an opinion. In a music thread, everyone has an expert opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: PoppaGator
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 01:13 PM

Sorry if I started something...(isn't there a Michael Jackson song about having started something?)...disruptive.

I have to confess to a bit of axaggeration. To say that one is "boycotting" a discussion is rather an overwrought statement, actually. I already skip well more than half of the threads I encounter upon checking in here, either immediately upon reading the title or shortly thereafter, as soon as I realize the subject is one in which I have no interest.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 01:31 PM

That's a worthy point, Georgiansilver. If anyone dares to boycott my boycott then I shall boycott them ALSO! ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 01:45 PM

A music THREAD may be disputatious but one's own music POST need not be. Re-iterating self-imposed discipline-- so see my post again.

And, LOL-- answering an unanswered request is not likely to embroil one in a dispute, unless one is really looking =for a fight or an chance to cry "victim."

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 01:48 PM

"not likely to embroil one in a dispute, unless one is really looking for a fight or an chance to cry "victim."

Yep. That's it, Susan. That or a chance to get all righteous and indignant over someone else's perceived victimhood which one has decided to make one's own excuse for looking for a fight...

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 01:58 PM

Yup, I left that one out. :~)

It does get quite circular sometimes. And some folks seem to actually read and analyze every word for those "opportunities" instead of skimming a post to see if it has any sense to which they wish to respond.

One last category-- the joke not taken (or understood or respected or appreciated) as a joke.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 02:08 PM

"some folks seem to actually read and analyze every word for those "opportunities" instead of skimming a post to see if it has any sense to which they wish to respond."

Yes. ;-) They're looking for something to fight about. And they're looking for a chance to "win" and make someone else "lose".

It's sad. You can say 85 things they agree with, and one thing they don't agree with, and all they apparently take any notice of is the one thing they don't agree with.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 02:10 PM

Then again, there are those who do make a valid point or profer an opinion or offer hypotheses and are summarily denied any or all who decidet, having made their point or voiced their opinion or offered hypotheses, to allow detractors to continue to detract from their own credibility and to add to skepicism by others that they were looking for a fight or positioning themselves for righteousness.

I prefer wainscoting when I run into walls.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: olddude
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 02:46 PM

Jell-O, anything that has to do with making it or mixing stuff in it

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 03:07 PM

When you mix stuff in it, isn't that asspick?

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 03:23 PM

I shall boycott the TV Commercial thread , as I dont have a TV

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jun 09 - 04:22 PM

Maybe an identifying marker should be put up on a thread when the blood starts to look like flowing, so that people who don't enjoy that sort of thing can boycott it, and those who do can crowd in like boys in a school playground crying "Fight! Fight!"

After all, it can happen in the most innocuous sounding thread (music related or BS) - and conversely, threads with headings that sound highly provocative can turn out to contain good-mannered discussions.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Gurney
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 04:14 AM

Can we have some clarity here?
If someone boycotts all threads, there is no point in being a member, so that person may as well boycott threads as a Guest.

There is already a web name for someone who doesn't post at all. Lurker.

Leadfingers wants a thread for people to post to instead of posting to a more specific thread.
What we need, then, is a name for people who post to the 'wrong' thread.
Perhaps we also need a name for someone who starts a thread boycotting a specific thread, and a name for someone who starts a thread boycotting an unspecific thread.

Oh. Wait a minute. We already have.

It's a sort of fame, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 06:50 AM

What an excellent thread - well worth boycotting other threads for. I think I'll use it to post all the messages I would otherwise have posted to the threads I intended to boycott. By posting them all here - either separately or together (with no line breaks or punctuation) - I will then have the double satisfaction of both boycotting lots of threads while simultaneously posting long, contentious and turgid replies to all of them in a different place: this thread!

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 07:48 AM

""It's sad. You can say 85 things they agree with, and one thing they don't agree with, and all they apparently take any notice of is the one thing they don't agree with.""


Seems logical. The only point which is susceptible of discussion IS the one on which you disagree. The rest are just 84 "I agree"s.

I thought that was ahat debate was about.

I would be inclined to boycott any discussion where I was required to say "I agree" 84 times.


Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 07:49 AM

""I will then have the double satisfaction of both boycotting lots of threads while simultaneously posting long, contentious and turgid replies to all of them in a different place: this thread!""


Now THAT one I really appreciate.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: GUEST,Big Norman Voice
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 07:58 AM

I would prefer a system whereby I could boycott certain contributors.
I would also add, that I would be VERY pleased to be boycotted, by some of our mean spirited posters.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 09:10 AM

I agree 84 times,and with 35 posts in this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 11:40 AM

No, Don T, I mean that they don't even pay any attention to the parts they agree with in the post while they are reading it...if the poster is someone they want to have a fight with. They instead just pick through the post like a dog picking through a bowl of kibble for a few bits of meat, because they are only looking for something else they can fight about with that particular poster.

It's a form of selective blindness, driven by hostility and the desire to have an argument with someone.

I am not talking about people who honestly debate. I am talking about people who argue. There's a qualitative difference. ;-) An honest debate is driven by a desire to arrive at a better understanding of something. An argument is driven by a desire to do damage to someone, humiliate them, conquer them, and "win".

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 12:00 PM

"An argument is driven by a desire to do damage to someone, humiliate them, conquer them, and "win"."

No, it isn't!

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Leadfingers
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 12:00 PM

Very True L H !! Nastiness for nastinesss's sake The BANE of The Cat

Subject: Abrazos: Multicultural Competence Scope Sequence
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 12:03 PM

Hey LH, how about we let that crap go for now. Or we'll be perpetuating it. Here's a morsel I drafted this AM on another front that I needed a place to stash, and I'd love to know your thoughts about it. It just kinda "popped out." :~) (Think of it as the meat course to go with the small potatoes we been stuffing ourseffs with.)

~S~

===

Multicultural Competence Scope and Sequence‏


It's interesting, nowadays, watching the TV programs that used to reassure me that we rural folk are neither alone, nor terminally different, nor dangerous. Watching them now that I know we are knowable. (Watching them as "we," not "they.")

Nowadays my interest is pulled equally by movies and programs showcasing other cultures. As a member of the Bishop's Commission on Racism, I've been unpacking an old toolkit and putting some old anti-racism and anti-classism tools back to work. This involves, in part, reviewing educational materials that blend flawed, old-fashioned "diversity training" with new angles on theology and soul-changing.

It's a rocky ground to work. It occurs to me that it's not unlike the rocky ground in this hardscrabble, mountainous farming community where my newer roots have been digging deep. There's no topsoil here, but there is the kind of persistence this raised-poor girl understands and, most days, I can keep up with that rock-hard effort pretty well.

Sometimes I think about my friends in the southern end of the Diocese and the diversity that, from "up here," I have the luxury to envy. Of late I have found myself wondering: Which of my friends could or would spend a day up here in MY back yard? Does the desire to be known, respected, and loved cut both ways? Do the roads I travel, south, ever call any of them to follow me back home, north?

Would they see the traces of the underground railroad, here, as I do, or traces of the people from whom the escaping enslaved were hidden?

Would they see my hardscrabble friends as the good souls welcoming them, or would they see only the reserved souls the stereotype says won't trust a stranger of any color or culture? Would they believe me when I tell them, as we head out of the last city they can recognize as "urban," that the question up here is not whether one is a stranger.

The question is actually whether the newcomer has a lick of sense, will accept a few veiled lessons offered so respectfully that it's easy to miss them, will help pull the next yay-hoo out of the icy ditch come late-October winter or, as more usually is the case based on long experience, be the one the rest of us are pulling out of that ditch?


But I believe I have found, if not the ideal curriculum for European-Americans who long for an end to a variety of discomforting feelings about African Americans they'd really like to know, the curriculum for southern friends in case they want to return the discomfort and know US.

The curriculum would have to start with "Postcards from Nebraska," whose host serves as a bit of a bridge to see and say the heart of his neighbors. It would have to end with "Hee Haw"-- that much-maligned, much-mocked lesson in tongue-in-cheek anatomy that is so rich with the details of how we rural folks are misunderstood... how we are kept apart from the society that profits from our labor and resourcefulness. (This is what diversity training knows as "internalized oppression.")

There is NO WAY even my best Harrisburg friends could start with Hee Haw! No way I could stand to sit with them, watch it with them, and teach from it-- no matter how much they assured me they were ready for it!

I know this as surely as I know I can still only barely sit productively around a table with these southern "yayhoos" (my dear friends who I sincerely adore), as they grapple with how to include-- respectfully-- my people in their processes.

No, they are not even at the beginning of doing that work. Until they can tell me about Postcards from Nebraska, oh I'll be at those tables, but a tad quiet.

It's not our way, up here, to insist that people step into discomfort. It just wouldn't be neighborly, and in addition St. Francis reminds us that the Gospel insists that we seek to understand in place of seeking to be understood.


Abrazos,

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 12:12 PM

LH: interesting definitions. I suspect they could generate considerable debate and/or argument! I'll save them for future reference.

This is one of the most humorous threads I've noticed. Thanks to initiator! However, the Apple Hollow thread of the last two days has it beat all to h...

Humor is a much nicer way to start the day than debate or argument, je pense.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Ron Davies
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 10:02 PM

I'm boycotting this thread.   Or maybe not.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Gurney
Date: 01 Jul 09 - 01:18 AM

"Nastiness for nastiness' sake is bane of the 'cat."
Not to me it isn't. I've left other forums which were really vicious, and yet other forums which were too sensitive and touchy for me. I think Mudcat is about right.

It's a debatable point as to where robustness becomes nastiness, anyway. And some people use Political Correctness as a weapon.

This is a statement of attitude, not an attack on someone.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jul 09 - 01:59 AM

The Mudcat Cafe is definitely a far friendlier place than a lot of other places on the Net, Gurney, so I appreciate the point you're making.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Gurney
Date: 01 Jul 09 - 03:26 AM

Yes, LH, and if I should behave like a twat, someone will likely tell me that I'm doing so.
If someone attacks another unfairly, plenty of people will weigh in on the victims's side, without waiting for a moderator to set the tone.
And if someone is extra touchy-feely, someone will possibly intimate that, too.

Sort of life-like, really. Grown-up.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 01 Jul 09 - 10:47 PM

Mmmmmmmmmm... turgid.... one of my favourite words...







Oh, and I'm boycotting this thread too.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jul 09 - 11:47 PM

Turgid is a wonderful word. Torpid is pretty good too. And then there's tepid.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott ANY thread
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:06 AM

All quite insipid!! He said with 'trepid'ation