Lyr Req: Meeting of the Waters (Thomas Moore)

Subject: RE: TUNE ADD/LYRICS REQ:Meeting of The Waters
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 04:53 PM

There are several copies of the lyrics on the Bodley Ballads website.

Subject: ADD:Meeting of The Waters
From: Snuffy
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 08:29 AM

Hey Joe,

How about harvesting this one?

Wassail! V

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Got it, Snuffy, but I guess I'm a bit slow.
-Joe Offer, May, 2001-

Subject: RE: TUNE ADD/LYRICS REQ:Meeting of The Waters
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 13 Jul 99 - 07:45 PM

Joe, given the feedback above I don't think I would wish to perpetuate the version of the tune that I posted. I was wishing to elaborate that there is a separate song in the DT called 'The Meeting of the Waters of The Hudson and Erie'. That song has a slightly different construction. I will instead start a BS thread - *grin* - slightly grumpy after being up with a sick child in the cold air last night. Truly!

Regards
John

Subject: RE: TUNE ADD/LYRICS REQ:Meeting of The Waters
From: Martin _Ryan
Date: 13 Jul 99 - 01:34 PM

Just kidding Joe!

Regards

Subject: RE: TUNE ADD/LYRICS REQ:Meeting of The Waters
From: Martin _Ryan
Date: 13 Jul 99 - 10:47 AM

The source was "A centenary Selection from Moores Melodies" edited by David Hammond - which makes it very reliable!

Regards

p.s. Sleep? What's that?

Subject: RE: TUNE ADD/LYRICS REQ:Meeting of The Waters
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jul 99 - 09:01 AM

John in Brisbane, did I see you say you are going to start a second thread for an alternate tune for "Meeting of the Waters"? You really wouldn't want to do that, would you? Why? "One song, one thread" seems to be the best way to avoid losing things.
-Joe Offer, grumpy 'cause it's too darn hot in Sacramento-

Subject: RE: TUNE ADD/LYRICS REQ:Meeting of The Waters
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 13 Jul 99 - 08:26 AM

Don't you ever sleep? As ever I will trust the version from your source documents. Your contribution in this regard is remarkable. Thank you.

John

Subject: Lyr Add: THE MEETING OF THE WATERS (T Moore)^^
From: Martin _Ryan
Date: 13 Jul 99 - 08:04 AM

The words:

THE MEETING OF THE WATERS
(Air: THE OLD HEAD OF DENIS)

There is not in the wide world a valley so sweet
As that vale in whose bosom the bright waters meet
Oh the last rays of feeling and life must depart
Ere the bloom of that valley shall fade from my heart (x2)

Yet it was not that nature had shed o'er the scene
Her purest of crystal and brightest of green
'Twas not her soft magic of streamlet or hill
Oh No 'twas something more exquisite still (x2)

'Twas that friends, the belov'd of my bosom were near
Who made every scene of enchantment more dear
And who felt how the best charms of nature improve
When we see them reflected from looks that we love

Sweet vale of Avoca! How calm could I rest
In thy bosom of shade, with the friends I love best
Where the storms that we feel in this cold world should cease
And our hearts, like thy waters, be mingled in peace (x2)

Regards ^^

HTML line breaks added in place of paragraph marks. --JoeClone, 12-Jul-02.

Subject: Tune Add: OLD HEAD OF DENNIS and BOYS OF KILKENNY
From:
Date: 13 Jul 99 - 04:18 AM

A rather heavy hand has reworked the tune above.

The song is in the first issue of Stevenson and Moore's 'A Selection of Irish Melodies' and the tune there is given as below in 'Sources of Traditional Irish Music', 1998. (Original edition of 1st 8 of 10 parts are in the Library of Congress, but I failed to copy the tune from part 1).

A variant of the tune is that for "The Boys of Kilkenny". (In DT without tune.) M. Kelly printed single sheet songs from 1802-11, and it isn't known for certain which of these two versions of the tune was published earliest. The single sheet issue of "The Boys of Kilkenny" is in the Folger Shakespeare Library. Note after the first verse the tune changes at the "X" to a different ending.

X:1
T:The Meeting of the Waters, tune- THE OLD HEAD OF DENNIS
S:'A Selection of Irish Melodies', part 1, #12 (1807)
Q:120
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:A
e3/4d/4|c3/2B/A AFE|EFAA2B3/4c/4|ddc/B/ BcA|ecA B2 B/c/|\
ddc/B/ BcA|ecA{c/}B2 A3/4B/4|B3/2B/A A/F3/2E|EFA d2d/c/|\
{c/}BBA A/F3/2E|EFAA2|]

^^ X:2
T:THE BOYS OF KILKENNY (1st verse)
S:Single sheet song issued by Michael Kelly, c 1805
Q:120
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:Bb
f3/4 e/4|d3/2 c/ B A F F|G B B B2 B/ e/|e3/2 d/ c e d B|\
f3/2d/ d/ B/c2e|e3/2 d/ c e3/2 d/ B|f3/2 d/ B/ d/ .c2 B/ B/|\
d3/2 c/ B B G F|G B B .e2 "X"f3/4 e/4|d3/2 c/ B B G F|\
G B B B2|]

X:3
T:The Boys of Kilkenny (all verses but 1st)
Q:120
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:Bb
f3/4 e/4|d3/2 c/ B A F F|G B B B2 B/ e/|e3/2 d/ c e d B|\
f3/2d/ d/ B/c2e|e3/2 d/ c e3/2 d/ B|f3/2 d/ B/ d/ .c2 B/ B/|\
d3/2 c/ B B G F|G B B .e2 "X"e3/4 d/4|\
d3/4 c/4 c3/4 B/4 B3/4 G/4G2 F|G B B B2|]

Subject: Tune Add: MEETING OF THE WATERS (Thomas Moore)^^
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 13 Jul 99 - 01:42 AM

I hope I never forget the beautiful story told in this Forum as to how Thomas Moore came to write 'Endearing Young Charms' - whoever did that yarn please take a bow?

I don't recall ever hearing 'The Meeting Of The Waters' actually sung, but here is the tune. I know that the original words are qhite haunting, and will only take a Thomas Moore fan a few minutes to find and post.

The North American version is in the DT, and has a repeated line in each stanza. To make Dick's life more interesting I will post the tune for that in a separate thread.

Regards
John

MIDI file: meeting.mid

Timebase: 192

Name: MEETING OF THE WATERS
Text: By Thomas Moore
Copyright: Sequenced 1999 by John J Leahy
Key: D
TimeSig: 3/4 24 8
Start
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

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ABC format:

X:1
T:Meeting Of The Waters
M:3/4
Q:1/4=120
K:D
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F2A2F2|D2E4|EFG3G|-GFEE2F|-FD2A2F|-FD2E3|
-EDEF3|ED2D2B,|-B,A,2A,2B,|-B,D2G3|-GAGF2E|
-EE2D2B,|-B,A,2A,2B,|-B,D2D3|-D/2||

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