Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: alanabit Date: 18 Jul 09 - 04:53 AM May it continue. England bowling like Australia and Australia batting like England! |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Folk Form # 1 Date: 18 Jul 09 - 05:16 AM I'd have 45 minutes each way. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Wyrd Sister Date: 18 Jul 09 - 01:41 PM Another boring day's play with no incident then... Hey, why don't those chaps at Turnberry just have a go round the local pitch-and-put? Then they would have avoided that nasty wind that sorted Tiger out. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 19 Jul 09 - 11:11 AM refresh. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: alanabit Date: 19 Jul 09 - 11:11 AM The Aussies put on nearly sixty for the final wicket and England did enough with the bat to declare yesterday. Now the Aussies are still short of two hundred with five wickets down. I would say that plenty is happening. A good day's batting could still win this game for Australia, but things definitely look to be going England's way at the moment. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Wyrd Sister Date: 19 Jul 09 - 12:19 PM alanabit, I was referring to yesterday, and I may have been a teensy bit tongue-in-cheek. If you check my first post (No. 2 on the thread)my position is clear. Hanging in... |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: alanabit Date: 19 Jul 09 - 01:44 PM Looks like it could be close tomorrow, doesn't it? Australia need to sell their wickets dearly and score about four runs an over. If they manage that they will win! One way or another it looks like there will be a result tomorrow and Australia could well pull off a win. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 19 Jul 09 - 01:54 PM it depends on the weather conditions. England must still be favourites to win |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 19 Jul 09 - 03:26 PM One good thing about Lords is that the first hour or two is favours the bowlers. I will be very disapointed if England havent got it sown up in the morning, unless it piddles down. Just to wipe the smile off the Aussies. Refreshing to have Shane Warne commentating. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: alanabit Date: 20 Jul 09 - 02:28 AM Bearing in mind that even Australia's tail enders put on runs, I would be very worried if they did not lose a wicket in the first two hours. With a hundred and fifty to win and a day to bat, you would expect the Aussies to walk it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 04:40 AM with only 150 to win you would assume that, but they have to get 209 :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: alanabit Date: 20 Jul 09 - 04:59 AM For sure. But I was assuming that if the overnight batsmen stay in for two hours, another fifty odd runs will go up on the scoreboard. It is going to be a nervous morning! |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 06:31 AM One of the wickets gone. Excellent bowling from England |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:02 AM Another gone. Well bowled Swanny |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:11 AM Flintoff the great. Another one bites the dust. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Wyrd Sister Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:26 AM |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Wyrd Sister Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:28 AM So excited I hit the wrong button. Can we? Can we? Now to see if Freddie can get fivefor.. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Wyrd Sister Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:30 AM My cup runneth over! |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:32 AM He did he did. One wicket to go |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:44 AM oh ye of little faith,what did Isay. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:45 AM Swanny We did it Great test match. Well done England - great performance. It takes 2 to make a match and Australia played really well, but I thought they didn't get the rub of the green from the umpires. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: alanabit Date: 20 Jul 09 - 08:15 AM The first time England have won against Australia at Lords for 75 years. Let's just hope that we do not have to wait for so long for the next win! Well done to everyone concerned. It looks like you were right Les. All power to your elbow. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 20 Jul 09 - 09:29 AM the umpires do not have the benefit,of slow action replays for everything,luck generally evens itself out,the better side won. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 12:48 PM It was great to shove it down the Aussies throats, but 10 out of 10 to Ponting. He didn't whinge or moan about the umpiring. Took it on the chin. I bet he is seething and England had better be on top form in the next match. Captain There were quite a number of appeals/decisions that had an element of doubt irrespective of cameras etc. A good umpire doesn't give a batsman out if there is the slightest doubt. Maybe the umpires need to go to specsavers. I expect an umpire at that level to always give the batsman the benefit of the doubt. Some of those decisions were little better than parks cricket umpiring. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: ard mhacha Date: 20 Jul 09 - 02:09 PM Fair play to you Villan, the umpiring was too bad to be true, England were the better team and where are all the England fans who wanted rid of Flintoff?, he gave an exhibition of bowling. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 02:36 PM I didn't want Flintoff playing becuase I was concerned about his injury. I don't think having injections in his knees is a good idea, and I would assume, only makes it worse in the long run. Flintoff would die for England. However it is up to the Management to protect people like him from doing themeselves severe damage. Having said that, he was brilliant and you couldn't ask anymore from him. I thought Shane Warne had fallen in love with him. He seemed besotted with Freddie. Can't beat an Aussie giving the plaudits to an Englishman. Freddie go and get pissed tonight, you deserve to have the freedom of England. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 20 Jul 09 - 05:02 PM Villan,tell us which decisions they were, apart from Ponting in the first innings. On this occasion England were the better side,and would have won without the Ponting decision. Flintoff took six wickets,and scored a paltry 34 runs. anderson took four wickets and scored 29 runs. Swann took four wickets. Strauss scored 195 runs Cook scored 127 runs Onions took 3 wickets, Broad took 3 wickets. it was a team effort.Collingwood tok amagnificent catch and scored 70 runs. Flintoff bowled well in the second innings ,his batting was crap,and he took 1 for 27 in the first innings,he chose the right time to retire. Flintoff did well in the second innings,but he has not been consistent enough for some time,probably because of his injuries. so have Australia never had a dubious umpiring decision go in their favour? England fully deserved the victory,so cut this crap about umpiring,that happens to all sides periodically,and give the better TEAM[not just Flintoff] the credit they deserve. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 05:33 PM Captain You obviously don't read my posts. Sometime back I wrote Quote One good thing about Lords is that the first hour or two is favours the bowlers. I will be very disapointed if England havent got it sown up in the morning, unless it piddles down. Just to wipe the smile off the Aussies One of the wickets gone. Excellent bowling from England Another gone. Well bowled Swanny Flintoff the great. Another one bites the dust then We did it Great test match. Well done England - great performance. It was great to shove it down the Aussies throats, Unquote I was only criticising the standard of umpiring, not the English performance. England were brilliant. Hughes c Strauss b Flintoff M Hussey c Collingwood b Swann both dubious decisions and the benefit should have gone to the batsman on both occasions with good umpires. I agree with you entirely. You win some you lose some and it balances over time. That doesn't stop me discussing the umpires. Entirely seperate to the match. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 20 Jul 09 - 05:39 PM Oh may I add that I used to umpire a lot and really enjoyed doing it and through that take a great interest in umpiring as well as enjoying the match. So I don't look purely at what both sides do, but look at the umpiring side as well. I hate bad umpiring for both sides as it can change a game. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 21 Jul 09 - 04:24 AM They are both good umpires. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 21 Jul 09 - 05:47 AM Captain I said "I hate bad umpiring " I didn't say that they were necessarily bad umpires, just umpires making IMHO bad decisions on the day. Lets call it a day as we are on a collision course here. We don't agree so lets agree to not agree. I won't be discussing further. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 21 Jul 09 - 06:25 AM not a collision course at all. it is a question of getting everything in perspective,why should umpires be criticised for making a tiny proportion of errors,and not given praise for all the good decisions,and I am talking about all umpires here and also football referees. soon no one will want to do the job,if people carry on criticising. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 21 Jul 09 - 07:50 AM Ihave probably been over critical of them myself in the past,but with the greatest respect,Les,I doubt if you or I could do better,perhaps they should intrioduce a system where every decision is replayed,or have a system similiar to wimbledon where each side is allowed three replays. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 22 Jul 09 - 05:17 AM Benefit of the doubt. The principle employed by umpires in cases of uncertainty concerning a batsman possibly being out, in which the decision must be in the batsman's favour. Time after time top class umpires give decisions against the batsman and IMHO go against the Benefit of the doubt ruling. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: The Sandman Date: 22 Jul 09 - 08:06 AM it is just not cricket ,Les. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 22 Jul 09 - 10:04 AM Indeed Dick, its very fishy. Thank goodness somebody has made Pieterson have an operation and hopefully he will get a full recovery. I just cannot see what injections can do, other than hide the problem. Bring in Ian Bell and Harmison and drop Panesar. Pieterson is out, lets get on with it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 23 Jul 09 - 07:16 AM OOps I think I am going to change my mind after reading this article about the Edgebaston pitch. Leave Panesar in and bring Bell in for KP http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/8164751.stm |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 24 Jul 09 - 08:27 AM Anybody seen anything on who will play next week? |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: WalkaboutsVerse Date: 29 Jul 09 - 12:24 PM No TV - but just over a month to the first one-day international! |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Wyrd Sister Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:47 PM No TV-but just over sixteen hours to the next proper cricket match! |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: WalkaboutsVerse Date: 31 Jul 09 - 12:27 PM Caught a bit of the day 1 (rather than the 1 day!) highlights and wondered why they didn't keep playing to make up for the rain delay - there seemed plenty of light left..? |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: WalkaboutsVerse Date: 02 Aug 09 - 04:35 AM Poem 115 of 230: SUNDAY CRICKET AND BERRIES - SUMMER 2000 From a bus (ninety-eight - Bury to Manchester), I got off at the gate Of Hamilton Road Park, Where in situ I ate Several blackberries (The taste too good to wait), Before making my way To a further park-gate, From where briefly I watched How Stand's cricketers rate. From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse (e-book) Or http://walkaboutsverse.sitegoz.com (e-scroll) (C) David Franks 2003 |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: alanabit Date: 07 Aug 09 - 08:54 AM England at 84-6. It looks like Australia will be batting by tea time and will have this wrapped up by Monday at the latest. I do not like to see England taking this sort of hammering, but I am not unhappy that the bastards, who booed Ponting the other day, are having their boos stuffed back down their throats. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: WalkaboutsVerse Date: 07 Aug 09 - 12:08 PM ...either way, A., less than a month until the one-dayers! |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 07 Aug 09 - 02:47 PM I just wonder why England decided to bat after being woken up by a fire in the hotel at 4:00 this morning and then having to stand outside for some 20 minutes or so. Surely their concentration was bound to be affected by lack of sleep. I think I would have fielded and then hoped for a good nights sleep. I actually think that Strauss was worried about the Auusies batting first and rattling up a big score and therefore fell into the trap of batting first. As they say, it was a good toss to lose. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: WalkaboutsVerse Date: 08 Aug 09 - 04:48 PM Ah well, TV - for those, like you, who do like their test-cricket, at least it's all to play for in the final test match it seems, before the ONE-DAY SERIES. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: alanabit Date: 09 Aug 09 - 03:47 AM This very nearly was a premature start to the one day series, wasn't it? The match will be over by tea time today, if not by lunch time. I had thought they could at least string it out for a fourth day, but there is only a remote chance of that happening now. England will lose by an innings and ca. 200 runs. Where does this stand on the list of all time whackings of an England cricket team? Am I right in believing that there were some even more ignominious disasters against Australia and the West Indies in the eighties? I do not like to see England humiliated like this, but to some extent it is a result well deserved by the bastards who booed Ponting the other day. I despise that scum. Well done Australia. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Alan Day Date: 09 Aug 09 - 04:37 AM I really cannot understand Strauss decision to bat first, He has in his team probably the best swing bowlers in the World and swing being linked to weather conditions,we had the muggiest period of weather known for some time, ideal for swing. It can only be his worry over Prior's injury just before the start, or just muddled thinking. The final test looks to be a decider. One for Freddie to be a hero? Al |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Wyrd Sister Date: 09 Aug 09 - 12:09 PM It has been said before that England are strong when Yorkshire make up a proportion of the team. Anyone (apart from Boycs)think Sidebottom should have played? Cut his teeth at Headingly I believe. But I'm glad Broad rewarded faith in him, and hope he continues form in the next PROPER cricket match, at the Oval. |
Subject: RE: BS: Bury 'The Ashes'? From: Rasener Date: 09 Aug 09 - 04:24 PM I am prepared to back England in the next match |