Regional British TV folk programmes

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:33 PM

We are so lucky in Scotland, having BBC ALBA, which shows a lot of music programmes -not b necessarily all in Gaelic! And more recently, we have BBC SCotland TV which has a few music programmes on it, though largely repeats of shows that have already been on BBC 1 or " or ALBA.

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: DaveRo
Date: 04 Jan 20 - 03:06 AM

We are so lucky in Scotland, having BBC ALBA

You're so right! And iPlayer does a great job of keeping track of which episodes I've watched and what's new - especially as, being a non Gaelic speaker, I can't remember the names. I can sometimes just leave it to recommend and play.

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: r.padgett
Date: 04 Jan 20 - 02:44 PM

Unaware of such programmes currently in UK ~ some Folk radio programmes still/currently

A great pity in my view and little televised 1970/80/90 etc which accounts for lack of tv recordings from the folk scene and brilliant revivalist singers of the time Nick Jones, Tony Rose, Martin Wyndham Reed, Dave Burland, Pete Coe et al unless you know better?

Ray

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST,patriot
Date: 05 Jan 20 - 02:50 PM

So, as I thought, there are NO current ENGLISH tv programmes (I really mean series of programmes) where you can listen to folk singers and musicians at all-
what on earth happened?- there are so many stations compared to the 60s & 70s!

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: r.padgett
Date: 05 Jan 20 - 03:33 PM

eh what do you mean patriot?

Ray

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 20 - 05:24 AM

Ray, I was asking originally whether there are ANY UK TV programmes in ENGLAND, featuring 'folk' singers actually performing, however you define 'folk'.
Nobody has pointed out anything at all, so it seems not, and I am contrasting that with the TV of about 50/60 years ago.
There have been many posts demonstrating the number of programmes giving a platform to 'folk' performers in the past- not superstars, just working, maybe semi-pro performers.
We have a limited archive of folk performers from years ago & Mudcat threads like this are very informative, but really, what will WE be handing down to the folkies of 2070?
It seems TV is old technology, but is YouTube any substitute for live folk performance, such as 'Barn Dance'

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST,another
Date: 07 Jan 20 - 09:04 AM

Apart from News programmes after the national news, are there ANY regional programmes on English TV these days?
very few, I'd say- when you look at the posts above, it just shows how centralised BBC has become!

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: Tony Rees
Date: 25 Sep 20 - 03:20 PM

All episodes of "Hullabaloo" have been announced as about to be re-released on DVD, November 2020 - see separate (new) mudcat thread /mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=168614

Cheers - Tony

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST,SB666
Date: 25 Sep 20 - 04:11 PM

Downhome is at https://ulozto.net/hledej?q=down+home&type=videos

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Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: BobKnight
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 10:34 AM

Grampian TV in Aberdeen had a folk show in the early 60's called "Silver City Folk." I remember seeing Barbara Dickson on it.

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: Tony Rees
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 02:48 PM

Sorry, bad link above - the new threat for "Hullabaloo" re-release should read https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=168614.

- Tony

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 04:39 AM

How on earth could we produce all this material using musical grassroot sources in the 60s and we seem to get bugger-all now?

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST,CJB666
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 01:37 PM

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 04:39 AM

How on earth could we produce all this material using musical grassroot sources in the 60s and we seem to get bugger-all now?

Whilst the topic is Brit. t.v. the same goes for radio.

Remember when Mike Harding got the push? Never been adequately replaced.

http://andywalmsley.blogspot.com/2012/12/thats-all-folk.html

This year is the 80th snniv. of Cecil Sharp House. It would have been great to have had the London Folk Song Cellar re-aired by the Beeb. The Archives have the master tapes, and the BL Sound Archive has the full set of t'discs. The recordings were made in Tefusis and the cellar bar at C#H after all.

We are busy recovering "Music from the People" (8 out of 10 eps. have been found), Ewan MacColl's "Song Carriers" has been found (thanks Jim), and A.L.Lloyds "Songs of the People" we have.   

But Alan Lomax's "The Song Hunter" languishes in the archives on moldering tapes in Birmingham.

Then there are the missing radio ballads - never re-aired: Stone of Tory (Irish), The Man Who Went To War (Langston & Robeson), The Jewelry, Cry From The Cut, The Iron Box, Off Limits - all never heard again.

Someone mentioned BBC Alba - at lest we can access these programmes on iPlayer. And there are some regional folk programmes - again on iPlayer or get_iplayer. But none of these are archived. Only Mike Harding does podcasts.

Basically we need enthusiasts like the Alan Lomax, A.L.Lloyd, Ewan MacColl, Charles Parker, Charles Chilton, Michael Mason, even Peter Kennedy. Sadly their talent and expertise went largely unrecognised when they were alive, and are totally ignored today.

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Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Sep 20 - 11:35 AM

If I was a Tory and a folkie, the BBC's total negligence of our English tradition would confirm all I thought about the BBC & give me more fuel to close it down.

As it is I'm just annoyed by such ignorance.

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Sep 20 - 03:32 PM

Anyone devoted to any other minority interest hobby,
could weaponise their dissatisfaction with low coverage
as yet another stick to mercilessly attack the beeb with...

Where's all the programming hours British Mod Freakbeat deserves...???
Abolish the BBC immediately...!!!!!

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Sep 20 - 03:47 PM

Actually, my memory of childhood west country TV viewing in the 1960s,
is loads of regularly broadcast 'folk' music...

Dunno if we got more or less than other regions...???

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST,Sean O'Shea
Date: 30 Sep 20 - 05:17 AM

I used to watch a programme on Sunday Mornings,mainstream channel,but can't recall which, that featured THE IAN CAMPBELL GROUP as singers and narrators of songs linked to social and military history.These accompanied relevant pencil and ink drawings.Would have been mid sixties,I think.

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Sep 20 - 05:50 AM

so where is it now?

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST,MikeOfNorthumbria (Sans Cookie)
Date: 30 Sep 20 - 09:06 AM

One more name to add to the catalogue of (probably)lost tapes - sometime around the late '50s or early '60s, Cyril Tawney had his own show on Westward TV, broadcast from Plymouth. Anyone know if there are any surviving recordings?

Also worth a mention are the brief (but fairly frequent)folk spots on BBC TV's early evening news show "Tonight" in the early 1960s. They featured Rory & Alex MacEwan, Cy Grant, Robin Hall & Jimmy MacGregor, Dusty Springfield (as a member of The Springfields), and many others.

Those were the days, my friend!

Wassail!

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST,CJB666
Date: 30 Sep 20 - 05:01 PM

We have Cy Grant on the very last Cellar Full of Folk (which predates Country Meets Folk).

https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZIVTJXZYl54VL3n4P7Ai85PBmYn1yGpTEGX

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Sep 20 - 05:34 PM

Brenda Wooton appeared on our local west TV often enough,
for me and my schoolmate to like her,
and go to her concert at a local arts centre [circa 1975]..

I have a vague memory she might also have had her own TV series [with folkie guests ?],
but can find no proof of this...???

Subject: RE: Regional British TV folk programmes
From: GUEST,CJB666
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 05:14 AM

The survival or otherwise of regional and national t.v. folk programmes may be debated at:

https://missingepisodes.proboards.com/

Also a search here might be fruitful ...

https://www.tvbrain.info

Then use the 'Search Lost Shows' search option.

Example ... here's a lost show that will never see the light of day again ...

https://www.tvbrain.info/tv-archive?showname=ballad+hunter&type=lostshow

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The existence of shows in the dusty archives however does not mean that they can be accessed, viewed, or copies obtained; and indeed their continued survival relies upon the expertiese and inclination of the donors &/or curators.

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