Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 04 May 10 - 12:41 PM

Mike et.al. if you're trying to contact the Cheshire Folk, Ken Thomson (ex member) manages Hobgoblin above the Johnny Roadhouse shop on Oxford Road in Manchester. You should get Arthur (Wakefield) from the 'phone book. He lives on Clarence Road.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 May 10 - 11:35 AM

Paul Reade - John Cartain is still very much on the 'scene' and performing a lot with Steve Chatterley as well as various incarnations of 'The hands and feet roadshow' or the massed bands of Hands in pockets and feet in mouths! I think the Church at Prestwich is where a young Martin Hall first appeared many years ago before being in Jolly Jack with Alan taylor and the late lamented Dave Weatherall.

John in Southampton - Was the singer you remember Frank Hughes? I don't remember him being on the buses but he was a gardener for the local council for many years. He did, and still does, splendid versions of "Ballad of cursed Anna" and "Madelleine". A founder member of Swinton Folk Club and, after a long absence, now a regular attendee and resident performer.

Cheers

DeG

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 May 10 - 09:54 AM

Hi ged

I hope to able to make it. I have something on that morning that I think will finish in time to be there.

With regard to your mentioning Cheshire Folk, Tony & Arthur and The Houghton Weavers. I knew all them well.

Tony unfortunately died some years ago. Arthur is still performing- in Bollington I believe.

The I knew Norman Prince well when he was with The Auld Triangle. He left and he and I were friends as he was forming the Houghton Weavers.
There is much about them on Google if you wish to look to see what they achieved. They are still going though Norman left some time back to devote more time to broadcasting on radio.

I haven't seen or heard from Cheshire Folk but I am trying to contact somebody to inform them of the sad news. I am sure they would want to know as they were very close to your father back then.

cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Paul Reade
Date: 04 May 10 - 04:31 AM

Sorry to hear about Pete Wilmot. I was one of the regulars at the Wellgreen and remember some excellent nights there. There was always good-natured banter between Pete and Tony and Arthur which made it a great club.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,Garry Nevin
Date: 03 May 10 - 06:30 PM

Greetings All,
hardly a mention of The Eagle And Child Folk Club, Whitefield Manchester. Upstairs on a Sunday night, it was the highlight of me and my dads week, hardly missed any of the early meets. Would love to hear from anyone who used to attend. First heard Bouncing Billy Barker by Tony Hill, a lovely chap...The old memory has lost the names of many who used to attend and run the club, but wonderful nights, well complemented with pints of beautiful Holts' mild.....!
Remember..?
Kind Regards,
Garry Nevin
Picton New Zealand

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,Ged Wilmot
Date: 03 May 10 - 05:38 PM

Mike,

Thanks for your reply - it would be lovely to meet you, and anyone else that knew him. As I mentioned above, I was too young to appreciate his love of music at that time, and to hear anything about his past means so much to us. This is the only place I have posted - my mum tells me that he knew Tony & Arthur well, as well as the Houghton Weavers, Cheshire Folk, etc, but I have not had the opportunity (nor would know how) to contact them.

Hope to see you on Thursday if you are able to make it - please introduce yourself to me (I'm his oldest son with the blond spikey hair!) and you can tell us more of what you remember.

Kind regards,

Ged

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 May 10 - 02:54 PM

Hi Ged

I am so sorry to hear about your father. Pete was a special man....all who knew him will miss him as I will.

I knew him quite well.

I knew him from the Wellgreen and from the Kersal Rugby club days where he ran folk clubs with the likes of Tony & Arthur and Cheshire Folk.

I will try to make it to the funeral if I possibly can

My best thoughts go out to you and your whole family.

Kind Regards

Mike

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,Ged Wilmot
Date: 03 May 10 - 12:55 PM

Hi all,

Pete Wilmot was my Dad - I was just doing a search on Google for the Wellgreen Folk Club and this thread came up.

I am delighted that some of you remember him - I was not fortunate enough to be able to see him at work, but obviously those of you that remember him, do so fondly.

I just wanted to post a message to say that Pete passed away on Tuesday 27th April, and his funeral will be this Thursday 6th May, 12.30pm at St Wilfrid's Church in Northwich, Cheshire.

I am not in contact with any of his old friends from the folk club days, but if any of you are, or would like to attend yourself, then please do.

Dad always looked back on his folk-singing days with such happiness, and it would be great to meet any of you that knew him.

Ged

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,John in Southampton
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 07:49 PM

Used to go to the Duke of York in Eccles every Friday night (1969 through early seventies)
Great atmosphere, good quality guest singers: Mike Harding, Ted Edwards, Beggarmen, Marie Little, Bernard Wrigley, Saraband, Dave and June Brooks etc.
They had a great host singer (believe he used to work on the buses) who did fantastic covers of Jonothan Kelly songs. Especially the "ballad of cursed anna" and "Madelleine"
Remember them launching "Guantlet" beer, impressive mailed fist bar totem, but tasted total c**p.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 10:52 AM

Most Certainly I remember "The Four Folk!" My brother-in-law was Ash Lawrence who played the mouth organ..they made a a great LP which has since been converted, (through the family into a CD) It still sounds wonderful..such nostalgia.. including streaming eyes from all the smoke! Helen V

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: JohnB
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 11:05 AM

My wife used to frequent the Church Inn FC in Prestwich, I was there a couple of times when we were "going out".
She wouldn't know what happened to anyone though as we have lived in Canada since 1977.

Hi Mick, we stayed with Lorraine (Tony's ex) and Bob in Vancouver when we were there about four years ago, your name came up then too.
Glad to hear you are still playing and Tony too.
JohnB

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 01:19 PM

I'm intrigued by the song 'Mild and Bitter Days' and would like to find the lyrics etc.

I'll start a new thread for this.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Paul Reade
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 12:31 PM

Anyone remember the Church Inn in Prestwich? I seem to think the organiser was George Purcell, and they had some great residents such as Barry Oates, Graham Walker, Pete ? and John Cartain, who went on to form Redmayne.

Barry Oates wrote some great songs such as "Mild and Bitter Days" which I think was actually about the Church Inn. Anyone know what happened to him?

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Tally Ho Man
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 10:54 AM

I should have said good to meet you both!

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Paul Reade
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 08:46 AM

Hi Mark

It was good to meet you as well. It was a great night at Sale!

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Tally Ho Man
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 07:50 AM

Paul Reade.
Good to meet you Paul down at the new Sale Folk Club last night. It put a face to the name! Mark Taylor.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,Mick Collins
Date: 05 Apr 10 - 03:51 PM

HI John B,a quick update Tony Downes plays banjo/guitar with The Hometowners along with Kevin Clarke, Pete Macmillan, and myself.Every couple of Months we run a Concert at Uppermill Conservative Club Saddleworth, last year we booked Jack Lee,and also Mike Canavan,what a great night we had,a full house with everybody singing the chorus,just like old times brilliant. great to hear from you take care, Mick Collins

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 20 Mar 10 - 06:16 AM

Hi harvey

Sod's law applied when I pressed ENTER before typing the line from unaccompanied that I confused with the other song that I was comparing....

It should read.." The thirties are a memory for Dad again
He tells me it can never be that bad again
But from Jarrow and from Clyde they come.............."

Apologies

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: MikeL2
Date: 20 Mar 10 - 06:08 AM

hi harvey

Many thanks for you comments.

It's a pity that your schedule prevents you from attending Kent State University.

I think that Hey Sandy has more than survived. It has become etched into music as a powerful statement.

The arrangement is powerful and descriptive and screams out the emotion of the story.

This thread reminded me dig out the Writer of Songs Album.

I realise now that I was confusing I Just Can't Wait with your " Unaccompanied". " Now thank you for the gold watch sir, the silver collection too".......

I would recommend anyone here to try it. They will not be disappointed.

Kind Regards

MikeL2

..

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,harvey andrews
Date: 19 Mar 10 - 04:06 PM

It happens!
Actually I have an invitation to attend the 40th anniversary ( is that the right word?) of the shootings at Kent State university
to perform "Hey Sandy". Unfortunately I have other contracted commitments. However, it means a lot to me that the song has survived and still resonates.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: MikeL2
Date: 19 Mar 10 - 11:16 AM

Hi Harvey

How are you. Great to hear from here.

I am sorry if I got mixed up with I just can't wait.....I was sure it was you I heard sing it.

Must be my rapidly advancing age....lol

I also used to do Hey Sandy but I never go the impact from that great track that you did.

Nice to hear from you.

All the best

Mike

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,harvey andrews
Date: 19 Mar 10 - 10:45 AM

MikeL2...I never recorded the Ian Campbell song "I just can't wait" /"The Apprentice song". You've mixed it up with one of mine I think.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 19 Mar 10 - 04:37 AM

I think it was organised by Mike and Maggie Billington, who also fronted the Folk Programme on Radio Manchester. He currently plays in the ceilidh Band Madcap, who are excellent, and still lives in Chorlton. Maggie now lives in Skye

L in C

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: maggi
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 07:49 PM

I'll add an early 1980s Martin Carthy gig at The Seymour. It's demolished now, but stood at the junction of Upper Chorlton Road and Seymour Grove. No idea who ran the club/session.

I'd gone for a pint in the vault, but was a bit bored with the company I was in, so went to see the turn :-)

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Paul Reade
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 04:15 PM

Thanks Colin. Eric Bottomley - I remember him now.

A couple of clubs that haven't had much of a mention were those run by Jack and Mavis Lee - firstly at the Kingsway in Rochdale and then at the Fisherman's Inn next to Hollingworth Lake in Littleborough. I remember some great nights at both of them, and Jack could raise forgetting his words into an art form!

Jack and Mavis still run a Country and Western club, every Thursday in Heywood - see http://www.folkimages.com/hobo/index.html. There's a great picture of Jack looking happy on the "Welcome" page!

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,Colin in Tytherington, Macclesfield
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 03:27 PM

Illman Riley were Eric Crowther and Eric Bottomley. I knew Eric Crowther and his brother Graham when I lived in Middleton, near Rochdale. I used to drink on a Sunday lunch time in the Lancashire Fold, which was Eric's local in those days, occasionally Eric Bottomley would call in for a game of darts.

Those were the days.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 10 Mar 10 - 05:10 AM

Aye, well, Ringer - age and ill health might have clouded my memory. I only ever heard it referred to in the spoken word.

Eireann or Erin, it was still an ace place.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Ringer
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 03:52 PM

I think it was The Exiles of Erin, Bryn. It was not a pretentious pub.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: MikeL2
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 02:29 PM

Hi Paul

Many thanks for the information about Al.

It is great to hear that he is still playing. The clip you sent of Al was a little short so I couldn't get to see very much.

I got to know him quite well. He used to play lots of different stuff.
I remember him learning to play The Entertainer and played it solo many times because everyone was knocked out by his playing.

I also remember I was at that time doing a song called either I Just Can't Wait or sometimes The Apprentice Song. This was because Harvey Andrews on his Album called it one thing and Ian Campbell who wrote it called it another.

After I had done it one night Al asked me for the lyrics and I gave them to him but I never heard him do it....as we went our separate ways about then.

Ah memories......

Thanks Paul

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,andyval
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 12:02 PM

Yes I know it is in Saddleworth and not Greater Manchester but I've not seen a mention of the delightful Grotton Hotel where Brian Knowles ran a club in the late sixties. We used to go there religiously as under-age drinkers. Thanks to that introduction coupled with Baz Reade's 'Top House' club at Dobcross I've had to cope with being a folkie for over 40 years.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Paul Reade
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 10:55 AM

Mike

You are correct - Al Lawrence was originally from the Isle of Man. I sang in a duo with him in the 70s, until he moved back there. I still see him occasionally when he comes over here - last time was for my wife Kath's 60th birthday party last year.

He's still performing with his band The Stationary Wilberries - love the name! See http://manxman.ch/moodle/ and http://www.youtube.com/user/manxli

His daughters Kirsty and Katie are also excellent musicians - see http://www.myspace.com/kirstyandkatielawrence

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: MikeL2
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 10:25 AM

hi paul

I remember Al Lawrence well from other venues.

Anyone know what happened to Al? I think originally he was from the Isle of Man.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 08:37 AM

Richard in Manchester -

Thank you for this. It was indeed the Bakers Vaults, and I am almost certain that it was a 'Singaround - y' sort of meeting, and again almost certain that it was hosted by Gray, Bri and Bob. I remember them doing Tom Paxton's

'Zoo' song ; great versions of

"I had a cat and the cat loved me
And the cat went fiddle- eye - fee" ;

"Goober Peas" ;

and Bob, giving it "Ship in the Sky". This would be around '65, 66 perhaps.

I seem to remember a FC out at Hollinwood, near Marconi's, and 'Sandra' singing Mick Softley's 'Working Life' ; as well as a 'Blues' duo on the Stockport scene, 'Leo and Geek', who did an amazing version of 'Candy Man' ;

not to mention Joe Harrison, from whom I learned the words of the Big Ballad 'King Henry V's Invasion of France', to a tune reminiscent of 'Doffing Mistress', or the Frank Duffy (RIP) version of 'The Beggar Wench'.

There was a FC out at Brinnington which I played a few times, (in either a Liberal Club or a WMC) run by a chap called 'Bren' (I assume, contraction of Brendan) ;

and I recall a duo but can only remember one name : Ralph de Berry, who designed the cover for Rosemary Hardman's first album 'Queen of Hearts'.

I have a copy still, but whether it would still play is a matter for conjecture.

Any word at all about 'Big' John MacAtee ?

(It should be understood that my memory might well be faulty : I am well over pensionable age and now in a wheelchair pending surgery. I blame years of dancing the Morris.)

Before I forget : back to the first FC I ever went to in God's Little Acre, at Old Moat Conservative Club, Withington. Eventually I became a resident, along with Paul Levine, an American lady, Ellie ; a brother and sister duo -

very tall people - he played a Hofner archtop with a plectrum - they were the first I ever heard sing the "Mingulay Boat Song".

Frank Duffy played "the Moat", as it became known ; as did Harry Boardman ; Terry Griffiths ; Mike (Meic) Stevens ; Ian Chisholm ; Barney Dooney ; Maurice Walsh (solo) and an incredibly gifted Flamenco guitarist

who went under the name of "El Ron", until he IMO f*ucked things up by trying to sing.


Regulars included Irene C ; John C ; Martin C (RIP) ; Denize C, whom your correspondent 'copped off' with ; C P Lee ; and as I remember, the bar served a fair drop of Doctor Robinson's Patent Medicine.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 09:15 AM

Well, well.

Perhaps people following this thread can help with

This one

L in C

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 09:05 AM

No, Paul ? I did.

For the number of women I was supposed to have been engaged to :


If I had screwed the number of women I was supposed to have been engaged to, I wouldn't have a penis left.

If I'd married the number of women I was supposed to have been engaged to, I'd have a bigger harem than Suleiman bin Daoud.

If I had pupped the number of women I was supposed to have been engaged to, I would have more bastards than Barnado's.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Richard in Manchester
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 06:36 PM

"Can someone put me out of my misery ... and remind me of the name of the Robinson s house just opposite Stockport market the landlord of which was Meurig Jones ?"

Bryn, there are three pubs facing onto the market place itself. The Bull's Head, Boar's Head and Baker's Vaults. They all used to have music regularly, not so much these days, and mostly blues rather than folk.

There may have been more folk music there back in the 70s and early 80s. Peter in Stockport should be able to confirm that; it would have been someone attached to the Goode/Hood axis running it, whatever it was!

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: JohnB
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 06:11 PM

Didn't Martin play with Tony Downes as the Two Beggermen?
JohnB.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Paul Reade
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 01:21 PM

The fiddler was Martin Lynott, not Terry Walsh, and I've never heard about any "... spreading rumours ...".

After the Beggarmen split, Terry and Tony Kelly went out as a duo, and used to alternate with myself and Al Lawrence in running sessions at the MSG, before its demise.

I believe Martin is one of the residents at a session on Mondays at the Oddfellows in Middleton - see http://www.folkimages.com/Oddfellows.htm. I'm not sure if it's still in operation.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 10:53 AM

Terry Walsh.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 05:13 AM

Strange, that no one has (yet) mentioned the Crown and Anchor, where the original Buggermen - sorry ! Beggarmen - played.

I remember Tony Kelly and ? Walsh who were later a duo. I bought Tony's Harmony Sovereign, and I wish I still had her.

Eamonn and Gerry did some MCing at the Guild.

Someone told me that baldy fiddler who liked spreading rumours is still around . . .

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 04:51 AM

Guest Rod - yes, of course, Frank Brown. Thank you for this.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 03:44 AM

These clubs appear to function in 'Greater Manchester' what ever that is.

Additions, deletions and ammendments please.

Monday
Jolly Angler, Ducie St. Manchester.

Folk at the Prospect Monday Prospect Inn Weston Road,   Weston Village Runcorn,   Cheshire WA7 4LD .

Swinton Folk Club Monday White Lion 242 Manchester Rd Swinton Manchester M27 4TS

Midway Folk Club Monday Midway Tavern, 263 Newbridge Lane, Stockport, SK1 2NX 8:30

Tuesday
Beginners Tune Session, The Beech, Beech Road, Chorlton ,Manchester Last Tuesday of the month

Fox & Goose, Wigan Lane. Tuesdays 8.30 pm Joan Blackburn

Sale Folk Club Tuesday: United Services Club, Southern Rd, Sale, M33 6HQ 8:00

Googlies Singers Night: Didsbury Cricket Club, Wilmslow Rd. East Didsbury, Manchester M20 2ZY 1st Tuesday 8:30

Peveril of the Peak Session: Tuesday Peveril of the Peak, 127 Great Bridgewater St. Manchester. M1 5JQ 8:30

Urmston Acoustics: Nags Head, Davyhulme Circle, Lostock Rd, Urmston. M41 0SU 1st Tuesday 8:30)

Acoustic Collective: Tuesday Wharf Tavern, Staly Wharf, Caroline St, Stalybridge, SK15 1PD

Crown Folk & Acoustic Club: Tuesday Crown Inn, Heaton Ln. Stockport SK4 1AR 8:30

Ring O' Bells Free Singers Club: Tuesday Ring o' Bells, Pit Lane, Widnes WA8 9HU 8:30 (0

Royal Oak, Tuesday Bradshaw Brow, Harwood, Bolton, BL2 3DD 2nd & 4th Tuesdays (012

Wednesday
Singaround at The Beech, Beech Road, Chorlton, Manchester 1st and 3rd Wednesday of the month

Cross Keys Pub In The Barn Uppermill Every Wednesday 9pm OL3 6LW

Stockport trad English tunes session..Ye Olde Vic King ST Stockport Hosted By Peter Hood
On the second and fourth Wed of every month

Thursday
Chorlton Folk Club Thursday SW Manchester Cricket Club, Ellesmere Road, Chorlton, Manchester M21 0SG 9:00

Lymm Folk Club Thursday Spread Eagle Hotel, Eagle Brow, Lymm WA13 0AG 8:30

Heaton Mersey Singaround: Thursday Sports & Social Club, Harwood Rd. Heaton Mersey, Stockport. SK4 3AW 1st Thu 8:30

Stalybridge Singaround Thursday The White House, 1 Water Lane, Stalybridge, SK15 2AG

For Folk's Sake: Thursday Zion Arts Centre, 335 Stretford Rd, Hulme, Manchester M15 5ZA 1st or 2nd Thu 8:00

Glossop Folk Train: depart Manchester Piccadilly Station M1 2PB 6:37 Return 10:17 4th Thu

Friday
The Dog and Partridge Friday Bollington Arthur Wakefield

Full Circle Folk Club Friday: Parkside Hotel, 281 Bury Old Rd, Prestwich, Manchester, M25 1JA 8:30

Northwich Folk Club: Friday Harlequin Theatre, Queen St. Northwich CW9 5JN 8:30

Porkies Folk Club: Royal British Legion, George's St. West, Poynton SK12 1JY 1st Fri 8:30 (

Salford Folk Music Workshop: Friday Room 200, Maxwell Building, Salford University, Manchester M5 4WT 1st Fri 8:00

Saturday
Stalybridge Buffet Bar Saturday --Right on the train station. Superb beer, good evening hosted by Jim Schofield

Sunday
Heaton Moor Session Sunday The Plough, Heaton Moor Rd, Heaton Moor, Stockport SK4 4NZ 1st & 3rd Sun 1:00

Ring O' Bells Folk Club: Sunday Ring O' Bells, Church St. Warrington WA1 2TL 8:30

Jolly Angler Singaround Sunday Jolly Angler, Ducie St. Manchester. M1 2JW 9:00

Pm or directly here

Best wishes

L in C

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: doncatterall
Date: 28 Feb 10 - 07:00 PM

At the Two Brewers saw:- Pentangle, Ralph Mctell, Magna Carta

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Feb 10 - 01:55 PM

hi GuestRCWhiting

I certain remember going to the Two Brewers.
I went once or twice. On one occasion the session was broadcast - I think on ITV.

Guests included Magna Carta. My memory is a little blurred about any other details.
But they were good sessions.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,Rod...
Date: 28 Feb 10 - 06:40 AM

Re Bryn Pugh above - the 'Frank' whose surname you were looking for may well be Frank Brown whom I knew in London in the sixties as a fellow busker. He was from Manchester - or the environs - played a Gibson twelve string and I know that he knew Anne Briggs well. Haven't seen him in many years so don't know if he's still about...

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: GUEST,RCWhiting
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 08:50 PM

Between 1963-66 I enjoyed many visits to the Two Brewers in Salford.
The North-West Folk Four (who dropped the NW when they became a little more successful) provided a varied evening with plenty of anecdotes and beer.
Only Bryn Pugh (25 Jan 10.33 am) has mentioned them. Does anyone else have any memories or news?

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 12:10 PM

The Beech, Beech Road, Chorlton. Songs mostly but not exclusively traditional.First and third Wednesdays. Beginners Tunes last Tuesday.

Cheers

L in C

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Tally Ho Man
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 09:28 AM

It's fascinating to see the original flyer from 1971. I remember the Railway and the existence of the folk club but was still at school (Sale Grammar) at the time. I played 'cello in our school orchestra and remember my music teacher buying me a pint in the Railway after a concert in the Sale Civic theatre during Sale Festival. I played a particular piece and got it right, probably much to his astonishment, and was rewarded for my efforts by being encouraged into under age drinking. How times have changed, if a teacher was to buy a student any sort of alcohol these days, he or she would, no doubt, be pilloried by society.

Whilst I never attended the club, being only the tender age of 16 and fairly shy in those days, another music teacher, Miss Callison (who I think became Mrs Dixon), did attend and she told me about it. She introduced me to guitar tablature and the first song I learned by this method was "Don't Think Twice" which she had written out for me. This was when I made my first real connection with folk music and I've maintained an interest ever since.

When I turned 18 I used to go to the Railway for a pint but it met it's demise soon after (I don't think I was to blame). It's a shame that such fine venues have been lost, the Railway at Heatley is another recent closure, but it is also good to note that traditions are still being kept alive in the many folk clubs that still exist and by like minded people.

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Paul Reade
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 12:14 PM

As I said earlier, it's nice that people remember the old Sale Folk Club at the Railway. I started it in 1971 and ran it until Robinsons decided to wreck it. You can see the flier for the opening nights at http://www.gradelydesigns.co.uk/sale_folk.jpg

I thought that looked a pretty good lineup at the time - and it still does.

Anyone remember Illman Riley? I seem to think there were two of them, both called Eric; one maybe Eric Crowther, and I can't remember the other one's surname. Any ideas?

Subject: RE: Folk Clubs, Greater Manchester 1960-99
From: Flash Company
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 11:40 AM

Golly, what a thread! haven't had time to read it all but it sure brought back a lot of memories.
I was a regular at Linotype in it's day, The Wellgreen, The Malt Shovels in both Bob Morton's and Susie Stockton's days, and later when it was revived by 'Agraman' as more of a comedy club.
Nice to see so many who remember the good old days.

FC (aka Brian Quinn)