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Lizzie Cornish 1 15 Feb 10 - 05:31 AM
Nigel Parsons 15 Feb 10 - 05:53 AM
Dave MacKenzie 15 Feb 10 - 05:54 AM
Smedley 15 Feb 10 - 05:56 AM
alanabit 15 Feb 10 - 06:15 AM
GUEST,Dáithí 15 Feb 10 - 06:29 AM
Royston 15 Feb 10 - 06:33 AM
alanabit 15 Feb 10 - 06:34 AM
Emma B 15 Feb 10 - 07:07 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 15 Feb 10 - 07:15 AM
melodeonboy 15 Feb 10 - 07:24 AM
Black belt caterpillar wrestler 15 Feb 10 - 07:46 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 15 Feb 10 - 07:53 AM
Nigel Parsons 15 Feb 10 - 07:58 AM
Smedley 15 Feb 10 - 08:23 AM
Sandra in Sydney 15 Feb 10 - 08:25 AM
Emma B 15 Feb 10 - 08:50 AM
bubblyrat 15 Feb 10 - 09:15 AM
G-Force 15 Feb 10 - 09:24 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 15 Feb 10 - 09:24 AM
Jack Campin 15 Feb 10 - 10:55 AM
Ebbie 15 Feb 10 - 11:44 AM
MGM·Lion 15 Feb 10 - 12:55 PM
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Subject: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:31 AM

39 years today...

Can we have our money back now? You know, the REAL money!


Lovley discussion going on in Judi Spiers show on BBC Radio Devon this morning, with some great stories to make you smile..

BBC Radio Devon

Judi's show is on right now, until midday..


I *still* convert back to real money, and it makes you realise how much we've all been ripped off over those 39 steps to someone else's fortune...


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:53 AM

39 years, it must be time for a review.
The value of 'copper' coins is now so low, maybe they should be removed from circulation.
Or maybe making 5p the minimum unit would be too inflationary. In which case maybe it's time to do away with 5 pence pieces & pennies (leaving 2p as the minimum monetary unit).
Whatever is to come, some will complain about it.
I don't mind, as long as we keep out of the Euro!


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:54 AM

I'm too young to remember real money, but I remember Decimalisation. I was collecting taxes at the time, the only time ever that Collections Offices didn't have to balance exactly. We were allowed to be out by 1p over the whole office!


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Smedley
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:56 AM

I have vivid memories of the first day of decimal currency - all of us racing to the school 'tuck shop' to spend the new money.

And signs in shops that gave prices in 'NP' (new pence).

Of the current crop of coins, I still don't like the £2 one - it looks like foil-wrapped chocolate hanging on a Christmas tree.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: alanabit
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:15 AM

Over the past seven years, the pound has lost over a third of its value against the Euro. History will condemn the Blair government for failing to take us in at the right time. Unfortunately, it was only ever possible for him to have been proved wrong over that issue, as no one would have been able to predict the fate of the pound if it had gone at the right time. The country will be paying the price of pandering to the Daily Mail's opinion polls for many years (just as it will over the failure to decouple foreign policy from the US and drugs policies and many other issues).
I am one of Mudcat's youngsters (at only 54) but I clearly recall what a clumsy, heavy, unnecessarily complex currency the old stuff was. Once OPEC had raised the oil prices early in the seventies, inflation was always going to take off anyway. Thank God we did not have to carry the additional burden of tons of worthless coinage!


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: GUEST,Dáithí
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:29 AM

I remember Decimal Day in 1975 too - best thing ever happened imho.

I really struggled with adding up bills and counting change, as a boy in Ireland and England...19/11 + 2/3 +17/6halfpenny etc..aaarrgh! Thank god for decimalistaionI say.
Yes, I know some people used it as an excuse to put up prices etc - but folks have always found ways to do that!

Just my er...tuppence...worth!

D


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Royston
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:33 AM

The only amazing thing about the old British system is that it ever lasted up until 1971 - implemented 1975 - before being done away with. Thank god those times are over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: alanabit
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:34 AM

My favourite decimalisation story was of an old lady in Cornwall, who upon being offered decimal change in three shops declared, "I am going back home to bed until all this nonsense is over!"

A year or two later, Westward TV ran a short film all about the Cornish village of "Spigot", which had resolutely declined to accept the new currency. It was shown on April the first...


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Emma B
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:07 AM

Look what happens if you don't embrace decimalisation -


"THE Tories were embarrassed last night after mistakenly claiming more than half of girls in the most deprived areas of Britain fell pregnant before their 18th birthday.

The error came in a Conservative Party document – called Labour's Two Nations – criticising Labour for failing the poor.

The document was released yesterday as Tory leader David Cameron launched a week of attacks on Labour's record on improving life chances for the poorest in society.

The document claimed: "In the most deprived areas, 54 per cent are likely to fall pregnant before the age of 18, compared to just 19 per cent in least deprived areas."

The figures were based on statistics for the ten most deprived areas of the UK – Birmingham, Easington, Hackney, Islington, Knowsley, Liverpool, Manchester, Middlesbrough, Newham, and Tower Hamlets.

The claim was made three different times in the document.

However, official figures for those areas suggested that the number of under-18 girls who got pregnant was more like 54 per 1,000.

A Conservative spokesman said: "A decimal point was left out in a calculation.

It makes no difference at all to the conclusions of a wide-ranging report"

what???


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:15 AM

Life was a helluva lot cheaper in the old money. A cake cost about a shilling (5p), now you have to pass over nearly a £1 note for the same thing!

So, if 12 shillings made £1, that's a percentage increase of er.....erm...


(she disappears off to remove socks and shoes and count on toes..)


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: melodeonboy
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:24 AM

I've often heard the old chestnut about how difficult it was dealing with the old monetary system.

I grew up in a farm labouring community; most of the people I came into contact with had not had an extensive education. My mother was educatd at primary school only to the age of 14. Yet, even amongst those people, who had had less education than most, I have no recollection of anyone being in anguish because the monetary system was too difficult for them to handle. Nor did I, as an adolescent, have any problem with it. Whatever system you use, people adapt to it and it works.

(I'm not a great fan of the decimal system anyway. If you want to make it really easy for everyone, change everything to base 8; you can divide right through then!)

It's pertinent to remember that life was also much simpler then. What causes so much confusion and frustration with finances these days is the constantly changing plethora of utility prices, loan rates, bank rates, internet rates, special offers etc., which are at best extremely time-consuming, and at worst virtually impenetrable.

(You'll all be telling me how difficult it is to count twelve inches to the foot next! Or perhaps how difficult it is to tell the time because we have to use units of 60 and 24 instead of 10!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:46 AM

And they said it would never catch on!

You can divide 10 by 2 and 5 but you can divide 12 by 2, 3, 4, and 6.

Better still have a binary system with 1,2,4,8,16 and 32 pence pieces with 64 to the pound.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:53 AM

I refuse to use metres or centimetres...I'm a yards and inches gal, myself.

I also refuse to talk in millilitres, still using pints etc..

All this bloody daft stuff...and as to arresting people for weighing out fruit and veg in pounds and ounces, I mean?????????

Bring back the old ways, and the simple life...


And WHO invented being paid monthly? That's absolute shite, to expect people to workk for 4 weeks with no money coming in...and I reckon it's done more to get people into debt than anything else..

Bring back weekly wage packets too, filled with cash...


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:58 AM

Lizzie: Life was a helluva lot cheaper in the old money. A cake cost about a shilling (5p), now you have to pass over nearly a £1 note for the same thing!

So, if 12 shillings made £1, that's a percentage increase of er.....erm...

No, 20 shillings made £1.
12 pennies made one shilling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Smedley
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 08:23 AM

And when a cake cost 5p, wages were somewhat smaller too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 08:25 AM

I thought this was about Oz decimalisation!

to the tune of 'Ring the Bell, Watchman'/'Click go the Shears' -

In come the dollars, in come the cents
To replace the pounds, shillings and pence
So be prepared when the money starts to mix
On the 14th of February, 1966.

I have a bookcase that my dad never painted - the price on the side shows as 4 pounds 10 shillings (can't do pound symbol), $9 - dual prices were used for the first 2 years.

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Emma B
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 08:50 AM

Life was a helluva lot cheaper under the old American pre decimal dollar too :)

39 years ago gas was 30cents a gallon!

In 1983 however, a Microsoft mouse cost $195! now you have to pass over $8

Fortunately it's easier to do decimals on fingers and toes - unless, of course, - you are a polydactyl


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: bubblyrat
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 09:15 AM

The old pre-decimalisation money, ie Real Money, was certainly a bit heavy & cumbersome. I once managed to "ground" a Sea Vixen naval fighter using nothing more sinister than about one shilling and fourpence-halfpenny worth of loose change, which cascaded freely from my pockets whilst I was hanging upside-down on the ejection seat in the Observer's cockpit,in order to remove a bulky piece of radar kit called an " AI 18 Indicator".
   Of course, one was not supposed to have ANYTHING in one's pockets, but hey ho !! The aircraft was grounded, armourers had to disarm & remove the seat,in order to find the money ( which was not returned !),and my naval career suffered a temporary setback !
At least,old money was easy to FIND,whereas the modern shite is easy to LOSE !


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: G-Force
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 09:24 AM

alanabit said: 'Over the past seven years, the pound has lost over a third of its value against the Euro. History will condemn the Blair government for failing to take us in at the right time.'

Can you imagine what would have happened if we had gone in and couldn't devalue by a third? Think Black Wednesday. Think Greece.

Staying out was the best thing we ever did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 09:24 AM

"So, if 12 shillings made £1, that's a percentage increase of er.....erm...

No, 20 shillings made £1.
12 pennies made one shilling."

Cripes, that's a *classic*, even for me, Nigel! I must be older than I think I am, 'cos I can't even work out how many shillings made £1..Holey Moley! :0) LOL

I used to love the threepenny bits best..

Every Saturday my Dad would take a sixpence out of his top drawer, for pocket money..It went all the way up to half a crown, as I grew older.

My brother used to collect farthings...

Strange boy... :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 10:55 AM

So let's talk decimalization songs.

Australian decimal currency mnemonic jingle from 1966

There was apparently a UK one made by Max Bygraves, which I have never heard and which is unknown to YouTube. But the one I REALLY want is the New Zealand one from 1967. It had a horribly catchy refrain. It was re-released around 1980 on a compilation called "Antipodean Atrocities" which I think John Peel had a hand in. Anybody got a copy?


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 11:44 AM

I believe in the US they date the inflationary period from 1967.
In the UK, they switched to the 'new pence' system in 1966.

I get it now: It is all your fault.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 12:55 PM

No we didn't Ebbie - it was 1971. It was the Ozzies who converted in 66. They are quite a long way away from here ~ look at a map if not sure how far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 12:59 PM

hahahhahha


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Smedley
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:10 PM

The UK went decimal in 1971, that's for sure, but I think the new decimal coinage was introduced bit by bit in the years leading up to the final switchover.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:15 PM

Decimalisation happened when I was working for Middlewich Urban District Council, in their rates and rent collection department (my first job).
The general consensus was that the 'new money' would be very difficult for the elderly to understand and we were all,amazingly, sent to night school at Crewe College on a six week course to make sure we knew all about the new currency and would thus be able to help all the 'poor old dears' who were expected to get hopelessly confused. We were even set homework in the form of 'sums' to do in our spare time.
In the event nobody got confused at all; even the town's oldest inhabitants, steeped in pounds, shillings and pence since the early years of the century, sailed through it all with no problem at all.
One disappointed man was Mr Bertie Maddock, the rating officer, who was determined to serve the first 'decimal customer' and gave me strict instructions to stand aside when the first ratepayer of the day arrived, so that he could deal with the transaction personally.
It just so happened that he was in the Gents when the first customer arrived and I was able to go down in history as the clerk who did the first ever MUDC transaction in pounds and new pence.
There will probably be a blue plaque on the wall of the council offices eventually.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:32 PM

Decimalisation was a total con, not so much decimalisation per se, but the cunning psychological brainwashing which led up to it.

If the government had created a totally new currency with totally new names, there would have been no problem. The problem was that they retained the old name of the "penny" (although they called it a "new penny"), and retained the old value of the pound.

The old ten shilling note should have been declared the new pound, alright things would have appeared on the face of it to have become twice as expensive, but overnight people would have appeared to have twice as much money as they had previously.

This would have rendered impossible the most outrageous overnight con, which I still vividly remember. The day before decimalisation, a packet of Golden Wonder crisps cost 3d (threepence). That meant that a pound could get you 80 packets of crisps. The day after decimalisation, the same packet cost 3p, so instead of being able to buy 80 packets, your pound could only buy 33 packets.

Not that I was in the habit of bulk-buying crisps, but the same principle applied right across the board regarding items (especially foodstuffs) costing pence rather than pounds.

A total con.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:39 PM

New Zealand took the option of making one dollar equal ten old shillings. No problem that I noticed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 02:43 PM

The British Florin was introduced in 1849 as part of the move towards decimalisation. As decimalisation was first proposed in Parliament in 1824, the same year as Imperial Units were first introduced, the situation is not as simple as it looks. In fact the adoption of £sd in Britain was an early attempt at a common European currency - look at continental accounts from the 18th century.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 03:12 PM

"This would have rendered impossible the most outrageous overnight con, which I still vividly remember. The day before decimalisation, a packet of Golden Wonder crisps cost 3d (threepence). That meant that a pound could get you 80 packets of crisps. The day after decimalisation, the same packet cost 3p, so instead of being able to buy 80 packets, your pound could only buy 33 packets."


Yup, got it one, Murray. We were ripped off from the start and 'they' never looked back.

And don't even get me started on VAT!


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Bert
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 03:52 PM

Of course it really wasn't decimalisation it was centigesimalisation because there were 100 "P" to the pound. Seeing as what it did to values, perhaps "Decimation" would have been a better term.

Lizzie, I love threepenny bits as well. Especially in the Rhyming slang sense. "She's got a lovely pair of threepennies!!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Emma B
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 04:52 PM

The BBC 'On This Day' site invited memories of decimalization which included this observation from one person

"In the popular imagination decimalisation of the currency was seen as inflationary and a confidence trick on the public by government.

At the time the new currency was adequately explained right down to the new half penny worth 1.2d, and prices were printed on books for example in both £sd and £p as exact equivalents.

Yet to this day people still insist they were "conned" in some way by the authorities."

In fact there was some inevitable 'rounding up' (let's face it - they're never rounded down) of prices as the old halfpenny disappeared.

Strangely enough, maybe because of the ages of the contributors, packets of crisps seem to feature largely in memories although no one claimed that they overnight doubled in cost but, obviously a pack costing 3p before decimalization could no longer cost the exact equivalent as there was no coin for 0.25p the nearest price being 1.5 new pence.

However despite anomolies that both 4d and 5d were worth 2p in the new cash - 20 Players Medium for 4/3 cost 21.5p the next day and a 7" single record - a re-release of All along the watchtower and Hey Jo' by the Jimi Hendrix Experience formerly selling at 7/6d was then 37.5 new pence.

One person with 2 siblings regretted that a decimal pound could no longer be devided fairly between 3 children but commenting that, now living abroad, they 'still enjoy baffling friends here with the arcane arts of counting money in a pound worth 20 shillings, with 12 pennies to the shilling etc.' adds that nevertheless

"Mostly they just think we British were mad"


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Bert
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 04:56 PM

There used to be 240 pennies in the pound, then they made it 100 pennies. It was because THEY wanted the extra 140 pennies. I know it didn't happen the very next day, but it wasn't too long before they got them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:02 PM

"Lizzie, I love threepenny bits as well. Especially in the Rhyming slang sense. "She's got a lovely pair of threepennies!!"

Oh, you Boys! ;0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:12 PM

You can divide 10 by 2 and 5 but you can divide 12 by 2, 3, 4, and 6.


And people wonder why Americans don't want to go to that filthy metric system!

O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Bert
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:20 PM

Right there Mousethief. The metric system is completely unnecessary because you can use decimal fractions in ANY system of units.

Engineers have no problem using thousandths of an inch, Surveyors quite happily use tenths of a foot. So there is no need whatsoever to destroy other units systems with metrication. All it does is make it easier to divide by ten at the expense of making it impossible to divide by three.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:28 PM

I concur totally with Bert and Mousethief, but I would just like to point out that life would have been a lot easier if mankind had in the first place adopted a duodecimally based numerical system, so that instead of having nine different symbols (plus the zero) we had eleven symbols (plus the zero)

If we had six fingers on each hand instead of five, this would in fact have been the route we would have taken.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 08:10 PM

We didn't need arithmetic pre-decimalisation. One egg for tuppence, a dozen eggs for two shillings.

Then, after we'd switched to new pence, I started in IT, so spent the next few years counting in octal, then hexadecimal. Decimalisation was probably invented to make work for programmers - computers don't like working in tens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 08:31 PM

Me poor old mother. When Canada went metric (from imperial), she was sure in her heart that Calgary and Edmonton had somehow moved farther apart.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Bert
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 09:09 PM

She was probably right GUEST.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Rowan
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 09:47 PM

New Zealand took the option of making one dollar equal ten old shillings. No problem that I noticed.

As did Australia. And, within three weeks of decimalisation I conducted the first decimal currency In SW Tasmania, on Federation Peak; a party we met there wanted some extra film I had brought in and could spare.

"Dismal Guernsey" (as it was known in Strine) knocked the swank around a bit because they could no longer price their upmarket goods in guineas but had to use the 'common and garden' dollar.

Regarding Oz slang for predecimal currency a threepenny bit was a trey, a sixpence was a zac (or zack), a shilling was either a dina (pronounced deena) or a bob, a two shilling piece was a florin or two bob (leading to the phrase "bent as a two bob watch"); we had lost both half crowns and crowns by WWII although five bob was often called a dollar until dismal guernsey came in, and a pound was a quid.

These days it's rare to find supermarkets pricing anything with less than "9" as the final cents digit. Because 5 cents (the old sixpence) is the smallest coin in official circulation, 1 and 2 cent prices are rounded down to the nearest zero, 3 and 4 cent prices are rounded up to the nearest 5, 6 and 7 are rounded down to the nearest 5, and 8 and 9 are rounded up to the nearest zero. So you get lots of impecunious people taking the supermarkets on at their own game by leaving their purchases (if they only want a few items) until they have three items ending in 9 cents and taking the reduction of the total back to 5.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 10:13 PM

I was teaching as Head of English at a Cambs school when Maths 'went metric' in early 1970s. My colleague the Head of Mathematics sent in an order for 100 metric rulers; only to receive the reply from the suppliers that they were only available in dozens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: G-Force
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 06:43 AM

If the ancients had been able to see all the planets instead of just as far as Saturn, we could have had a ten day week.


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 11:09 AM

"I've got sixpence, jolly jolly sixpence
I've got sixpence to last me all my life
I've got tuppence to spend & tuppence to lend,
And tuppence to send home to my wife!


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 12:04 PM

19/11 + 2/3 +17/6halfpenny

May look difficult, but no problem to do in the head - £1 19/8 1/2p.

Now the equivalent in decimals would actually be quite a bit harder to do in the head.

Once the pennies and the shillings and so forth were gone what's the point in hanging on to the pound? I'd have not the least problem in going over to the euro, which is worth just about one pound already anyway.

Just do it - and declare that the existing coinage is still valid, with one pound being equivalent to one euro, and one penny equivalent to one cent. Oh, and declare that from now on the name for the unit of currency will be that good old Latin word "Quid"


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: paula t
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 02:25 PM

I remember helping my Mum and Dad to open the packs of shiny new coins for our village shop on decimalisation day.

I also remember an old lady coming into the shop and thinking that a cauli for 6p was really cheap. My Mum explained that it was actually "one and tuppence", so she promptly sat down on a sack of potatoes in the shop, sighed and said she would be glad when it was all over and we could "get back to normal."


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 05:28 PM

Haven't the United States been decimalised (as opposed to metricised) since 1792?


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 06:21 PM

Oh the good old days, pounds, shillings, pence, polio, diptheria, mumps, measles, cholera ..................


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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Decimalisation
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 06:30 PM

"Can we have our money back now? You know, the REAL money!"

That's what we used to say in our school refectory way back in the 1960's.

We had framed painted canvases on the walls detailing benefactors and their donations, and many were in Pounds Scots, lost in 1707.


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