BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 01:37 PM

Hey Bobert:

What is the difference between black people and white people?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 01:37 PM

Ahhh now I see your problem, lack of information and context.

allow me to enlighten...

No one knows where he was born.

He was born on Oahu in Hawaii. His biography says that, His birth certificate says that. His mother said that and the Republican Governor of Hawaii and John McCain have said that.



He was sent to Muslim schools in Indonesia,

He attended a public school in Indonesia for a couple of years which was mainly attended by Muslims. He also attend public school in Hawaii and a private Prep school in Hawaii. He attended a University in California, another in New York and did a Post Graduate Degree in the same University and G.W. Bush, The same Law school as the Clintons.


etc...he's no good ol' southern preacherman.

No he is not a preacherman. He is a politician.

True, he spent some time at Jeremiah's Wright's cesspool church and absorbed a lot of that extreme black hatred of whites,

Don't be silly. His mother was white, He was raised by Whites. His dad was not even American. He no doubt learned some things from Wright, But saying that he "absorbed hatred" is just silly.


and that "g-d-am America" sermonizing, but you can't put his speech mannerisms down to any of that. The speechifying is studied.

Of course his techniques are studied. That is what smart people do.

That's why he clams up when his teleprompter goes out.

No he doesn't, I have seen him on television and in person speak without a prompter. I have seen him in press conferences and I saw him make fools of the Republican Congressmen without a prompter. Don't underestimate him. He is obviously a lot more clever than you think.

His hypnotic paces and leads are marked out in the text and he won't speak unless he can stick to the script.

You overestimate the power of hypnosis. To the extent that it does work it is limited a small minority who are vunerable and even then it can't be used to command them to go against their nature.

I think that it is fair to say that anyone, if there is anyone, who has been hypnotized by Obama (or Bush) are hypnotized because they wanted to be. The most effective way to get people to follow it to tell them what they want to hear.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 01:31 PM

GfS, you should be ashamed of yourself. Sinclair's story has long been discredited. Don't tell us you believe him- so why do you pass it on?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: ichMael
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 12:54 PM

It's a shame that Democrats are so fixated on race. But then that's to be expected. Bill Ayers said America would have to undergo a race war, and he's now advising Obama. And Obama's mesmerising with his speeches, so of course he's driving his sheep toward race war. A pity.

HERE is a black preacher who's addressing the race issue in a unique way. Not sure what to make of him, but he's no Obama supporter. The affair he's talking about can be found described HERE.

Ten minute youtube video and a link to Amazon.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 07:58 AM

That's about it, Don...

itchy even went on record of calling black church he has never stepped fott in a cesspool??? I mean, seems that is not only unGodly, as if he cares, but downright pre-judical... I mean, wouldn't someone have to have spent time somewhere before making such a pronouncement??? It's kinda like a guy who reviews resturants doing a review on something that he heard from one other individual about the resturant... Throw in a complete misunderstanding of the black culture, history and mix in stuff taken completely outta context, al la FOX/FIX news and you have some serious bigotry going on here...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 07:40 AM

""Well, there's manipulation, and then there's criminal manipulation. What Obama did to get elected was criminal manipulation. And now, since he's waging unjust wars, he's a mass murderer. His actions are not defensible.""

Whadda matter Baby?

Pissed off because the nasty black man dodged all the repub dirty tricks and ambushes, and won, in spite of the rednecks intimidation of voters by wearing their guns to political meetings?

The only criminal manipulation was by the Repubs, and it failed.

Get over it!!

He beat you, and now he's getting on with the job.

What are your kind doing?....Bricks and Bullets through windows, and futile stonewall attempts to block new legislation.

Ask not what Obama is doing wrong. Ask what the Repubs are doing right.........Answer to both questions:- Not a damn thing!!

Then you will know who cares for America, and the American people.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 03:22 AM

Yep. In it ankle deep. Upside down.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Amos
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 12:04 AM

IChmael, you must have deep brown eyes.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 11:54 PM

It is most unfortunate that you have posted, the processes, to my potentations promenance upon the mudcat.

For over a decade the wiccan women have swooned wanting, wiggling, for more words of wisdom.

Now ALL is revealed and the magic is gone.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Woe. I am undone. Mortal eyes are not supposed to see these things....

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 11:44 PM

You're evading ichMael's point, Bobert, ol' pal...or you're just missing it entirely. He didn't say that Obama had started any wars. He said that Obama is "waging unjust wars", and that is absolutely correct. Obama is waging 2 unjust wars, the 2 wars that Bush started. That is the mass murder that ichMael is talking about.

He didn't say anything about Obama waging war on Republicans either. You don't seem to be reading ichMael with any great care, Bobert, because he isn't defending the Republicans! He regards both the Republicans and the Democrats as people who are waging unjust wars in the Middle East and defrauding the public in various ways.

I have to agree with him there, although I rather like Obama, personally speaking.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 10:35 PM

Mushroom clouds, uranium tubes, al-qeada connections, Niger, WMDs...

The list goes on and on.... Upwards of a million people died from Bush's manipulations... The cost of the Iarq invasion and occupation will far exceed 30 years of health reform but...

Ummmmmm, for the record... Which wars has Obama started that you consider to be "unjust", itchy??? I don't recall him starting any but, hey, maybe I was out mushroom huntin' or playin' blues in some juke joint when the war was called up, I donno... But, ya know... I do read the Washington Post an' I would think that I would have heard about any new wars... Oh yeah, the war on stupid Republicans... I forgot that one... Yeah, yer right... That is unjust... Well, maybe no unjust but silly... Yeah, it's silly callin' up a war when the folks yer gonna go to war against is allready at war amongst themselves... Know what I mean???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: ichMael
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 10:17 PM

Well, there's manipulation, and then there's criminal manipulation. What Obama did to get elected was criminal manipulation. And now, since he's waging unjust wars, he's a mass murderer. His actions are not defensible.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 09:55 PM

Of course, itchy, you disagree with the preacherman thing 'cause I'd doubt if you have sent much time in black churches, or playing and performing acoustic blues, both of which I have and I do...

As for manipulation??? Isn't teaching a form of manipulation??? Isn't selling a form of manipulation... Isn't the art of politics a form of manipulation??? I mean, when John Beohner did his "Hell, no" wasn't that a form of manipulation??? Hey, manipulation is everywhere... It's in soap powder ads... It is used to sell stomach relief... Headach releif... Cars, shirts... It's all manipulation...

I mean, even here, this very second I am trying to manipulate folks thinking just as you did, itchy, when you posted so let's not get all bent out of shape about folks trying to maipulate us... Lots of that manipulation is a good thing... If the stove is hot and I tell you not to touch it that is manipulation...

But, horrors... The president trying to manipulate US!!! Oughtta get the folks running and screaming theu the streets like in some 50s Japanese horror flick...lol...

As for Jerimiah Wright's being a cesspool... Hope yer not a Christain 'cause that's the kind of judgemental crap that really pisses off God... BTW, how much time did you spend in that cess pool before you discovered it was a cesspool... Oh??? None??? Geese, a little false witness there, God, to add to this persons blasphomy...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Lox
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 09:41 PM

I am getting sleepy ...

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 09:28 PM

It is far more likely, GfS, that it will be Republicans killing Democrats than the other way around. We are in a truly scary point.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: ichMael
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 09:18 PM

Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques

More organized now, more clear and to the point.

I disagree on the preacherman thing. Obama's an oily huckster.

No one knows where he was born. He was sent to Muslim schools in Indonesia, etc...he's no good ol' southern preacherman. True, he spent some time at Jeremiah's Wright's cesspool church and absorbed a lot of that extreme black hatred of whites, and that "g-d-am America" sermonizing, but you can't put his speech mannerisms down to any of that. The speechifying is studied. That's why he clams up when his teleprompter goes out. His hypnotic paces and leads are marked out in the text and he won't speak unless he can stick to the script.

Obama has no scruples. Did he take a day off from killing in Iraq today? Of course not. Did he withdraw any troops that are guarding the Bush Drug Cartel's opium in Afghanistan? Of course not. Did he put a stop to the U.S.'s torture of people around the world? Of course not. What did he do today? He killed and tortured.

Oh, and he's getting the mob riled up on the home front. He meets Webster Tarpley's qualifications for being a true fascist--he's merging government and the private corporate sector into a fascist regime, and he has a grassroots following. Of course, the followers were brought onboard through deception (hypnotization), but they'll never know that. They've been too deeply brainwashed. So they're going to run around now transferring their insecurities onto "the Republicans" and push things until they start killing Republicans and justifying it because Republicans are against the government (Obama).

I sincerely hope you Obamanoids wake up, because "the Republicans" aren't the problem. Your good intententions are being used by a manipulator to do harm. The manipulator is the the problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 07:51 PM

Having spent many years living primarially around black people I had the pleasure of enjoyin' many a sermon delivered in a cadence that was comfortable yet inspiring... What some folks see as hyponotic isn't hypnotic at all but rhytum... This is why we enjoy music... It has a beat... A rhytum to it that fits in with our natural rhytums... It's kinda organic...

Obama has learned that speech pattern... It isn't as much African American as much as African American Preacherman... I guess, for alot of white people who haven't spent time in black churches it's kinda like hearing a new sound or style of music... I mean, it ain't gonna hypnotize you but you listen to it because you enjoy it...

I think people do enjoy listening to Obma becauase he has studied those older preacher's speech patterns and learned that groove... That's really what it is: a groove... I mean, you don't hear folks talk that much about "the groove" in the north but you sho nuff hear about "the groove" in the South... The highest compliment that a blues player can get in the South is for someone to say, "Nice groove, ya' got"...

So, hey, I'd just say, "Enjoy it"... You don't need no meds for it... You don't need no doctor... It's pleasing... Especially after a life time of listening to folks who ain't got a groove on... I'd name them but the list is endless...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Arkie
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 06:33 PM

Since we do not have a dictatorship in the USA, a national leader has some limitations. Attempting to deliver on campaign promises is even a bit of a novelty. Obama has done that and even had a measure of success in spite of unprecedented resistance from elected officials and media and internet attacks. And I agree we should hold the government accountable. And so far we have seen an improvement in the economy, job levels restored to at least the level of before Bush economic crash, the winding down of one war front and steps toward ending the other, and the passing of a monumental health care bill in spite of outright lies and misinformation from the opposition. And work still continues on the economic front.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Sawzaw
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 04:56 PM

"If by hypnotic one means appealing to people's highest, most honorable standards, telling people the truth, and giving people hope that government can benefit common citizens and not just the wealthy, powerful special interests, you may have something there."

The only problem is they have to deliver on it or they will be held accountable.

"I want you to hold our government accountable. I want you to hold me accountable."

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 04:13 PM

""That some people believe they're being hypnotized by someone who's able to speak well explains a whole helluva lot.""

There are one or two on here, and a lot more out in the general public, who can quite easily be hypnotised by anyone who can speak at all Jeri.

A bit like a dog, whose head tilts to one side at the sound of a human voice.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Amos
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 03:48 PM

A Daniel, sir!! A Daniel!

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Arkie
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 03:12 PM

If by hypnotic one means appealing to people's highest, most honorable standards, telling people the truth, and giving people hope that government can benefit common citizens and not just the wealthy, powerful special interests, you may have something there.

On the other hand there is something hypnotic in the way lunatics such as Limbaugh, Beck and certain Republicans and radical bloggers play on people's fears, prejudices, and hatreds to manipulate them into self-destructive action.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Amos
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 03:00 PM

Jack:

You crack me up, sir.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 02:50 PM

I know literally hundreds of people who supported Obama in the primary and Presidential races. None of them were hypnotized. Most of them don't really pay attention to his speeches.

From my experience, on the ground, in the real world, you are barking at a red herring which is up the wrong tree.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Amos
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 02:46 PM

ICky:

That you are unswervingly dedicated to your conspiracy-centric panic view of the world is not untypical of the kind, but pause and consider whether you are actually harming any good causes or good individuals by forwarding this kind of smoke and mirrors.



A

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:50 PM

I wouldn't be surprised, ichMael, if all campaign teams nowadays at the higher level (presidential) were well aware of a number of the hypnotic techniques you are talking about. After all, the commercial advertising world is certainly well aware of them, and they use them all the time in TV and radio commercials to sell product.

When an election occurs, another product is being sold to the public by the advertising team...a president, a senator, or a representative. It's another commercial product that is being sold, and it's being sold by a consortium of moneyed interests who expect that president, senator or representative to do exactly what they want him (or her) to do FOR THEM once he is elected. And he'd better...or they'll ruin his term in office.

That's the game, right? The public are just the poor sheep who file into the voting booth and rubber stamp the best funded and best advertised candidate. Obama was by far the best funded and best advertised candidate in the last election, so the elite power groups who do the funding had decided at some point that he was their man. I frankly think that initially they were planning to back Hillary Clinton (they had already decided it was time to turf the Republicans out and go through the charade of "rescuing" the nation by bringing the Democrats in...the only question was, which Democrat would be the president?)

And I think it was Hillary Clinton whom they initially planned to crown. Barack Obama, however, proved to be much better able to inspire the general public, even though he carried the very difficult problem of being a black man...a daunting challenge to get the first black man elected president in the USA! But there were problems with getting Hillary elected too, because there was tremendous hostility toward her among a very substantial number of Americans....and there'd never been a female president yet either.

But it had to be either Hillary or Obama. And Obama was far better at inspiring people, which became more and more apparent as time went by.

So they decided to back Obama instead, and he got the greater amount of funding, he got a lot of help from the media...and the deal was done.

McCaine was chosen to lose...just as some others have been chosen to lose in the past, like Michael Dukakis, for instance. McCaine's candidacy was a joke, really, but that's what he was there for, because it was time to switch the game from the Republicans in the White House to the Democrats in the White House. And the big boys with the big money run both of them, and very little changes.

The Great Game goes on.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: ichMael
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:21 AM

Matters not if I'm ignored now. You folks inspired me to a work of art. The page is a masterpiece, or will be after a little tweaking of the language. That was 67 pages of tough reading.

And now, I have a link that I can deposit wherever the need arises. Bile only begets truth, people. I look forward to the next time you ridicule what I'm saying. Last time it led to this:

http://www2.moment.net/~michael/Firefighters911.htm

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:01 AM

Methinks we have gfs amongst us.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 11:52 PM

You are being ignored ichie, Talking nonsense will lead to that.

Saw, Hawk,

Yes there are thousands of possible ways it could have been configured had there been a sincere effort by the majority of Congress.

But thanks to Lieberman and the obstructive Republicans, we only had two real choices. The Deal Obama worked out or more delays heaped on to the previous hundred years of delay.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: ichMael
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 10:39 PM

Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 10:10 PM

Exactly. What needs to be done is a national single payer health plan such as exists in most developed countries at present, and even in a number of Third World countries. In other words, spread the entire cost of health insurance around evenly through the whole population and then everyone can definitely afford it and everyone is covered. It doesn't change the actual medical treatment itself one iota...but it makes it easily affordable for ordinary people.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 09:40 PM

Mr wyziwyg:

You are not listening. Evidently you have swallowed the logical fallacy that there are only two choices, Obama's way or no health care reform at all.

There are several choices besides the Obama way.

If there is anybody here who is against health care reform, not the Obama version of health care reform but other options, speak up.

Is there anybody here that doesn't think medical insurance costs too much and something needs to be done to get the price down so more people can afford it?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 09:35 PM

"thuggishly?"

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: ichMael
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 08:24 PM

Thank you for the input, Little Hawk. And you too, DougR. And for the name-callers, an especially big thank you. Just for you, I'll put the text that was thuggishly deleted at the start of this post into a webpage. Started it, will have it done in a day or two. Need to find appropriate pictures (oh, this will be fun).

To work, now. Couple of hours tonight, couple tomorrow. This Obama thing will break a LOT of conditioning.

Thank you all again.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:39 PM

Jack, I agree with that.

However...there was a choice between a genuine public option and no public option. I'm sorry that they made the wrong choice when it came to that, and it's a great shame. Obama had enormous public support when elected, and he could have pushed for a public option and full universal heath care such as in Europe and gotten it, in my opinion. Instead, the administration gave in to fierce lobbying from the private health insurance industry and gave them mostly just what they wanted.

I'm still in favour of the bill being passed. It had to be. But I'm disappointed in how weak and compromised a bill it turned out to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:26 PM

And my point was: virtually ALL (if not all) politicians frequently use the "false dichotomy" set of only 2 supposed starkly opposite choices in order to advance an argument. It works well rhetorically, and people usually accept it at face value and believe it.

If Obama has done so, well, that's nothing very unusual, is it? I bet every president has done so, and done so numerous times...just like they've all said things like:

"We are at the crossroads..." (What? Again???? Not that fuckin' crossroads again!)

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:19 PM

Little Hawk,

Have you not been following the news here?
There was no "false dichotomy" there were two and only two choices.

a. Whatever deal the Democrats could piece together.
vs
b. Republican stalls and delays.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:12 PM

IchMael - You mentioned this.... "For example the uses the false dilemma or the false dichotomy as the reason to support the health care bill as if the only way to reform health care is to support the bill. If you do not support the bill you are against health care reform."

Ah, yes! The old false dichotomy rhetorical device...

I wouldn't doubt that Obama has pulled that routine more than a few times, because virtually ALL politicians do it in order to get people to support some initiative they're pushing. They present a false set of divergent alternatives as if those were the only 2 choices available.

Here's a great historical example, still advanced today by people:

The A-bombs were supposedly dropped on Japan "to end the war without having to lose millions of lives in an invasion of the Japanese Islands..."

False dicotomy!!! There would have been no necessity whatsoever to invade Japan to end that war. The Japanese were already desperately seeking a negotiated end to the war, and had sent envoys to Stalin so that the Russians could pass their messages on to the USA and Great Britain. (Japan was not at war yet with Russia) Allied intelligence services surely knew that the Japanese were ready to throw in the towel...their navy was gone, their air force almost gone, they were virtually out of fuel and food, their ability to continue functioning was collapsing due to the Allied blockade of Japan.

It could hardly have been more obvious that Japan was within a few months of surrender and was looking for a way to end the conflict.

Yet the bombs were dropped...supposedly to save the millions of lives that would be lost in an invasion that would NEVER need to happen! The public was not told about that.

So a false set of choices was named in order to justify the act, a terrorist act which was not necessary to either end the war or save any significant number of lives.

Why were the bombs dropped? Well, I think the most probable reason why is this: Stalin was planning to declare war on Japan as soon as he had moved substantial forces east from Europe, and he intended to sieze every piece of land he possibly could when he made war on Japan...just as he had siezed everything he possibly could in western Europe. He would have invaded northern Japan, the northermost islands, from the Russian base at Vladivostok, and the Japanese would have had little in that area to stop the Russians. The result of that would undoubtedly have forced the Americans to quickly invade southern Japan, thus experiencing the terrible losses they were expecting there (the south was heavily garrisoned). The end result of the whole fiasco would have been a divided Japan similar to what happend in Korea, and the USA absolutely did not want that to happen!

It was Stalin's expansionist policy the USA feared, not the Japanese unwillingness to surrender...the Japanese wanted to end the war by early 1945, and would have as long as the personal safety of the Emperor was guaranteed. That was the only position they would not have yielded on. (and in the end, MacArthur did guarantee the Emperor's safety, even though the surrender was supposedly unconditional).

So the public was not told the real reason for the A-bombs being dropped...it was done to end the war fast before Stalin could sieze any more territory in Asia.

As it turned out, the Russians did declare war in the last few days and invaded Japanese-occupied Manchuria. This was a profound shock to the Japanese who were hoping for Russian help to negotiate with America and the UK...and it inflenced them at least as much as the A-bombs did to seek an immediate end to the fighting. They were deeply afraid of what the Soviet Army could do to them...having had some nasty experiences fighting the Russians in the late 30s.

If, as I suspect, the USA used the A-bombs to forestall Stalin's war in Asia and end the whole thing fast...well, I can understand why Truman would have done that. But....the public was not told the true reason for doing it. They were told a fairy tale, namely:

"We had to do it to avoid the terrible cost of an invasion of Japan."

They were told nothing about forestalling Russian expansionist wars in Asia.

A classic case of the false dichotomy. And it is still believed today. Russia was the realy enemy by mid-1945. Japan and Germany were finished, kaput, helpless and incapable of threatening American interests any longer, but Stalin was just getting started on doing so in a very serious way, and that was why Truman dropped those A-bombs.

In my opinion.

*****

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:09 PM

That some people thought anyone was hypnotized by W. explains the current economy.

Selectively choosing to hear what one wants to believe is a serious issue. But it ain't hypnotism.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:04 PM

That some people believe they're being hypnotized by someone who's able to speak well explains a whole helluva lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 06:58 PM

It's called being an orator.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 06:58 PM

"I cannot get to the Mute button fast enough"

"There are none so deaf as those who will not hear."

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: DougR
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 05:52 PM

ichMael: I am pleased to report that one Mudcatter was not taken in by Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques. When I see him making a speech on television (which seems to be two or three times a day though I know that isn't quite true) I cannot get to the Mute button fast enough.

I wonder if he ever does anything OTHER than writing and making speeches. :>)

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 05:44 PM

Hmmmmm

I campaigned for Obama and Donated to his campaign and saw him speak in person. He certainly didn't hypnotize me. In fact, What he did do, was tell us what he was going to do in fairly plain language then proceed to do it.

He has kept his promises on Afghanistan, to make it the first front on the war on Bin Laden and his followers; On Iraq, to pull out the combat troops; and now on Health Care, He said he was going to make it more affordable and fairer and he said that he SUPPORTED a public option. He also promised to adversely change the health care of those on private plans.

He has kept his promise on restoring America's standing in the world, and with the astounding (to me) great work of his main rival, has done that.

Obama may have disappointed some of his supporters who, having been given permission to hope, hoped for too much. But he has done his best to keep his word, even on Guantanamo.

On the other hand,

As much as I hated the bailouts of Chrysler and GM, the thought of a quarter million jobs disappearing at once, during a recession, would have been far far worse. I wouldn't expect anyone who supports the Republicans to know basic economics, If they did they couldn't support any Republican since Nixon. But if they put their partisan, condescending hatred for Obama aside, even some of them might see that to let those companies would have caused an economic collapse.

The Bank Bailout was Greenspan's, Bernanke's and Paulson's doing. (Greenspan sewed the seeds) The disaster for the country was that Republican lawmakers and especially George W Bush, through cowardice and ignorance left the whole economy in their hands and they screwed it up.

When they panicked and went to Congress, The President and the President elect, and predicted that the sky would fall without the bailout they made the bailout the only option.

The only good reason to vote Republican is that supposedly they know business and are better for business. After this screw up, there is no good reason to vote Republican at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 05:40 PM

Big Mick, who needed to have that glaring truth pointed out?

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 05:26 PM

Well said, Poppa. I have said all along that there is an underlying current of racism in most of these attacks.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 05:24 PM

"Ebbie. Minds me a Robin Williams... "Slicker 'n whale shit."

Believe it or not, Amos, that's meant as a compliment. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: PoppaGator
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:59 PM

OK now, let's make sure I understand this:

Effective speaking technique is an insidious plot to undermine our freedoms and pollute our precious bodily fluids!

This has never been a factor in our national discourse before. But now that a N****r has taken over the White House, along with his not-really-American liberal cronies, it's time for everyone to become good and paranoid.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 03:13 PM

""There are very few Americans who do not want health care reform to bring the cost down so it is more affordable and more people can be covered.""

How many Republicans in the USA Sawzaw? That's the "few" people you are talking about, and it ain't a small number, except in the IQ department.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Hypnotic Speech Techniques
From: gnu
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 03:09 PM

Ebbie. Minds me a Robin Williams... "Slicker 'n whale shit."