BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:11 PM

So what is for supper gnu?


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:15 PM

You, Spaw, need a keeper not a protector. But you I believe were the beginning of the positive thoughts threads. So you can play here too.
Did you ever feel as if some here were overstepping boundaries and "meddling" rather than supporting?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:19 PM

Sorry Sins......That was a good post and it looks as if I'm blowing it off with that comment to gnu.

That's a common problem on the net. It would be easy to think that I was jerking Sins around but in reality if you check the times, I doubt gnu's post was even there when she started writing hers and her post wasn't there when I posted the smartass line to gnu.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:21 PM

Are we done cross posting yet?

LOL

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:23 PM

I get the impression this all about some disagreement as to how far it's OK for people to talk about personal stuff and so forth. Or maybe about someone saying something disagreeable and not getting rapped on the knuckles when the OP thinks they should have been.

Here's a recipe for Drop Scones.

"...When the drop scones are cooked, invite friends or family to tuck in, while they are still fresh and warm, adding butter and/or jam or syrup." Which sounds suitably life enhancing for those needing a bit of life enhancement, which means all of us from time to time.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: olddude
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:36 PM

What circle ?   It is like anything anywhere, some people we make friends with , others we avoid ... like working in the office. Some of the folks become very close buddies and lifelong friends ... others we can't handle for one reason or the other ... friendship have a lot to do with people who are like ourselves or if we see something in them that we would like to be ... the social dynamic is something that just exists for some, not for others ... but the ones like in an office that we are not close with, they too have friends that are very close to them and probably would not wish to be friends with us ... everyone has friends and most of those friends share traits in commons ... the us I am talking about is in general ... for all people ... not us as in mudcat

Why would we cut one of our close friends more slack than others ... well because we do that for all of our friends don't we ? If you buddie who is a neighbor does something you don't like, we cut them a break because we like all of us, there is good, there is bad .. for those we call friends, the good always out weights the bad or they would not be our friends ... Nothing that I said applies to mudcat it applies to life in general

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: MikeL2
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:54 PM

hi

I suppose as a relative newby here I don't qualify to partake in this thread.

Like many others before me I blundered on to this site not knowingly or really caring where I was.

I was interested after all in music and that it what I came for.

But I found more. I found experience, knowledge, helpfulness and often bloodymindedness...but in my eyes never...well not often, excessiveness.

Yes I found that americans are more happy to share health ( and other personal )matters than we stoic Brits. I found this openness engaging.

To my astonishment I found myself sharing some of my own health experiences but I hope always in an understanding and helpful and supportive way to persons who were/are obviously loved here.Long may it be so

I have never done this before and at first felt very strange as I knew not to whom I was writing.

I for one thank Mudacat and it's little helpers for putting up with us and our experiences be they happy,sad or unusual.

Oh and I found that the reading the many musical threads and looking at the videos and listening to the sound clips has encouraged me to dust off my guitar and to start banging out songs and tunes again that I had thought I had finished with...

Thanks ....


Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:04 PM

You got it, olddude. ;-) Nice summation. As you say, it applies not just to Mudcat, but to life in general. My dog cuts me a lot more slack than he does for strangers...or for the people next door.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: gnu
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:06 PM

Spaw... "blowing it off with that comment to gnu." Nope. It was a joke... and that's the best medicine there is.

Spaw, cross posting will go on forever. Like your cross dressing. (I ADORE the pearls... are they real?)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:14 PM

Already PM'd him gnu appreciating the humor.

As always, old dude is the voice of experience and reason.

MikeL, I have been here 10 years and feel exactly the same way. I found Mudcat during a very sad part of my life, was looking into music for comfort and found this - the asylum. Welcome. SINS

Subject: Declutter Tip
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:24 PM

...the OP's apparent comment on excessive neediness in some posters?...

No. I am asking for people's input about the opposite phenomenon, that some folks go too far in coddling a chosen person/group/illness/whatever is their "bag." And I suspect that who is coddled by whom (and who is not and by whom) is not a matter of anything but personal prejudice unaided by proximity.

Proximity does matter, too. We can see that just by the posts in this thread-- people who actually know me have tended to know what I meant. People who do not... have characterized a few short words in their own fashion, to put it kindly (one PM was a lulu of threats). Vive la Mudcat-- I know we all do that. But I find it very interesting to learn from how it works. Most folks who consider themselves "works in progress" seem to think that way, too.

Kendall asked upthread (something to the effect) if I ever stop to think I am wrong. Here's a possible surprise-- actually, are you asking? I wake up most mornings sure that I have been all wrong the day before, only to find quite a bit of evidence to the contrary awaiting me.

This is a personal issue that I work on, but I work much harder to be sure I am correct. Ten years' worth of observation and wondering is, for me, a relatively normal length of time to wonder about stuff.


As usual, most of the power I find in the replies to this topic has come from those voicing their ideas in love and/or goodwill. I tend to pay more attention to those sorts of input, in the sort term; but I regularly meet with a bunch of people convened on purpose for their wildly different views. I treasure that they differ from mine, because I trust the collection of voices much more than any single voice, or subgroup of voices.

This has been true across the many communities with which I have been actively involved, and it's true here, too.

As is also true of many of us, I sorely miss the voices that are "gone before us." Giac and Rick, in particular, had ways of making so many things so clear.... as I know the rest of us miss particular voices as well.

BTW Gnu-- "what is for supper" is what folks have said is helpful to their own household organizing. If it doesn't float you boat-- eat me! :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:31 PM

...people who actually know me have tended to know what I meant.

So was I right after all when I asked "Is this a read-between-the-lines comment on some stuff that is happening in a thread I haven't read?"!

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:34 PM

"..the OP's apparent comment on excessive neediness in some posters?...
No. I am asking for people's input about the opposite phenomenon, that some folks go too far in coddling a chosen person/group/illness/whatever is their "bag." "

Fair enough. I didn't exactly get where you were coming from, but my comments nevertheless are relevant in response to your OP. Even so, I still don't quite know what this thread is about! Thankfully belonging to no class, and thus not having received any PM's on the matter, I'll forever remain in blissful ignorance ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:36 PM

I just want to take this opportunity to state that Chongo would very much appreciate it if no more "poop throwing" jokes are directed at him or at any other primates on this forum. It's insensitive, and more than that...it's specist.

Thank you for doing what I know you will, and not indulging in that sort of offensive humour any longer.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: gnu
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:38 PM

~S~... no.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:41 PM

This too is relevant:
So I guess in summary I would say if you find yourself "protecting" a person who has asked only for emotional support. Back off and re-think why you are doing what you are doing. Is it about them or about you?


As to Little Hawk - does that apply to Spaw as well?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: Bill D
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:59 PM

Well...I think this is managing to 'air' a number of views and general situations without pointing fingers, and I for one have read some valuable insights in several posts. No one need change any particular habit because of thinking about this, but perhaps reflecting on where one fits in the scheme might someday be useful.

We ARE different, both personally, and as a couple have mentioned, culturally. (Maine and the UK are not the same as various parts of the US.....and it can be argued that the internet/WWW is in fact a 'culture' different than the one we live our RT lives in...and most of us have had only a few years to figure out how to respond to people and situations which are mostly words...with a few images and phone calls. I wonder if it will ever be easy for humans to codify how to behave in this mudium...

(thats medium, but the typo was SO interesting..☺)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat's Current *Protected Class*?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 May 10 - 04:07 PM

I have received complaints about this thread and I did not respond to them since I was really hoping this thread would die quietly. It was at the very bottom of the Forum Menu when I went to bed last night, but then it came back to life this morning. Since it hasn't died on its own, I'm going to close it. It borders on personal attacks, and on other personal matters that are better not discussed in a public forum. Please continue this discussion by personal message.
If you wish to discuss the closure of this thread, feel free to contact me by Personal message or e-mail.
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