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GUEST,andrew 12 May 10 - 09:02 PM
katlaughing 12 May 10 - 09:06 PM
Jeri 12 May 10 - 09:29 PM
Joe Offer 12 May 10 - 11:59 PM
Tangledwood 13 May 10 - 04:37 AM
GUEST,andrew 13 May 10 - 06:27 AM
VirginiaTam 13 May 10 - 08:05 AM
JohnInKansas 13 May 10 - 11:41 AM
JohnInKansas 13 May 10 - 11:48 AM
open mike 13 May 10 - 12:28 PM
Joe Offer 13 May 10 - 04:38 PM
Tangledwood 14 May 10 - 02:59 AM
JohnInKansas 14 May 10 - 03:39 AM
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Subject: how can i see older threads
From: GUEST,andrew
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:02 PM

Being a newcomer to this forum, I would like to see some of the older threads, but when I set the "Age" and the Refresh, I only ever get 1000 threads, [so it says at the bottom, I didn't count them!], which is only a couple of months or so! I set it to all, and tried quite a few of the other settings. Same result though.


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:06 PM

I think it has to do with the fact that there are over 129,000 threads and it would take ages and probably crash your system and maybe Mudcat's to try to bring them all up like that.(I cannot swear to that.:-) It's best to put a keyword in the search box next to the age date and look for more specific threads.

Also, if you look in the Newcomer's Guide, you will find several lists of older, choice threads.

What are you interested in particularly?

And, welcome to the Mudcat!

kat


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: Jeri
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:29 PM

If you search for a word in the title, you'll get older threads. I think the 1,000 thread limit is because it takes a while for the server to list them and because (I'm guessing) most people who aren't searching for threads on specific subjects are looking for a sampling.


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 May 10 - 11:59 PM

Hi, Andrew-
There are times I wish I could review a list of older threads, but using the Filter for that, would overload our system. You CAN go to our Quicklinks dropdown menu on almost every Mudcat page, and select Messages by Date, which will let you see our activity for any given day in our history (we opened October 1, 1996).
the URL (web Address) of our Forum Menu is http://mudcat.org/threads.cfm. If you enter that URL in the Wayback Machine at archive.org, you get this (click).

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: Tangledwood
Date: 13 May 10 - 04:37 AM

how can i see older threads

Take a look in my wardrobe.   :)


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: GUEST,andrew
Date: 13 May 10 - 06:27 AM

Thanks everyone.

Joe,I tried your suggestion but all of the links appeared to be duds!

Tangledwood, do you have a Witch and Lion as well as old threads in your wardrobe?


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 13 May 10 - 08:05 AM

I believe the Wayback Machine only lets you see the thread list for the day. You can't drill down into individual threads. But maybe I was doing it wrong.

I think Kat's idea is best. You can google search your topic too and put mudcat at the end of the topic.


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 13 May 10 - 11:41 AM

Using the filter you will get only the most "recent thousand" threads, so you need to think of a more specific search term that will get fewer "vaguely related" threads, so that you get more threads "specifically related" to what you want.

As Joe O noted, you can also look for all the threads posted on a certain date, which can be useful if you have an idea of when people here were discussing the subject you want.

Another "trick" method is to figure out what mudcat member is interested in the subject you're looking for. Click on that person's name in any individual post (where you see "From: Somebody - PM" at the top of the post, click the "Somebody") and you'll get a list of the first 100 posts by that person. You can step through all of the posts that person has made, 100 at a time.

If your first search finds a 'catter "A" who shares your interest in a subject, you should be able to find in a thread where "A" posted another "person B" whose posts you can follow in the same way to fairly quickly figure out who talks about your subject of interest the most, and what threads (of any age) contain the most meaningful discussion of the topic you want.

Note that this ONLY WORKS if people "join up" and use consistent names, so it's truly helpful to us all if you do "officially" join in and get a permanent username - assuming that you have something to contribute that someone may be interested in a hundred years from now when the database really starts to get big and mudcat is the only intelligible site still running.

John


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 13 May 10 - 11:48 AM

Re preceding: Note that "GUEST" has posted 80,740 times here, but "GUEST,andrew" has 158 posts and is (sort of) identifiable.

But I didn't check "GUEST, andrew" or other possible "variants," and "GUEST,andrew" - I know - has at least one lost post as "GUEST" contaminating the database.

(friendly tweak)

John


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: open mike
Date: 13 May 10 - 12:28 PM

if you put a key word search in the "lyrics and knowledge search" box

you will get a list with lots of info. You can choose to see forum
threads about the subject or a list of songs.

many people find this site via searching for lyrics...the DT is the
name of the list of songs and tunes...Digital Tradition.

I think you will find lots of information and lots of people here.

if you have a question, post it in a thread and you will find many
answers very soon.

welcome!


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 May 10 - 04:38 PM

But Andrew, what you want to do, is something we should be able to do. Maybe better and easier would be something that displays threads by name in numerical order, a hundred threads at a time. Of course, with over 129,000 threads, an index for all our threads would be 1,290 pages long...


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: Tangledwood
Date: 14 May 10 - 02:59 AM

Tangledwood, do you have a Witch and Lion as well as old threads in your wardrobe?

I guess it's possible, there are places in there that haven't been explored for a while. And there I was blaming possums for the things going bump in the night.


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 May 10 - 03:39 AM

I'll certainly agree with Joe O -

what you want to do, is something we should be able to do.

But note that even though Google reports that it found 7,394,292,742,614 results, it will only show you the "most popular" few hundred, and there is no way anybody's found to see the other 7,394,292,741,029 "results."

As described above, the best way I've found for "deep research" at mudcat is to find a thread (usually using search) that's talking about the subject you want. Next pick out the person who seems "most voluble" in that discussion and click that person's name to get the list of his/her posts - and find other threads where the person has posted on the same or similar subjects.

Continue with other 'catters who "talk it up," until exhausted - or until you're satisfied with the result.

Note that with most browsers you can "right click" to open the new thread/list in a new tab if you might want to come back to the original one to pick another name. With a "wheel mouse," "clicking" by pressing the roller instead of spinning it also should open the target in a new tab.

And don't forget that Ctl-F (or your browser's "Find") lets you "search" on a page, which is sometimes quite handy when looking at another person's list of posts.

John


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 May 10 - 02:37 PM

The "last resort" for looking at really old threads is to use the individual thread URL as the address in your browser.

The URL has the form "http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=X" where you put in any number in place of X (and don't type the "quotes.")

You can start with thread 4, The Mudcat Café, which has been reported as being the "first thread."

Thread numbers 1 thru 3 were used during site setup, and don't exist any longer. There are a few other gaps, where threads may have been deleted or – rarely – crumbled and couldn't be recovered.

Since this method only gets one thread at a time, it will take you a while to get through very many; but it's sometimes interesting just to "wander around" in the early ones. This thread is "http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129443&messages=13" recently. The "&messages=nn" bit shows how many posts are contained in the thread, and changes as new posts are added. It can be omitted to just go to the thread.

The thread Who's been here the longest? (thread number 25175) might be of interest, especially for newbies who would like to get a feel for who the veterans are. Of course that thread doesn't tell much about who is still here, or about which of us have "gone senile" and need to be mostly ignored.

BS: Finding a thread? is a fairly short thread that includes a few helpful (and some not so helpful) hints, and is fairly typical of a question that gets asked fairly frequently here – and usually gets appropriate responses.

John


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Subject: RE: how can i see older threads
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 15 May 10 - 04:06 AM

REPEATE Dear LafKat.

RE: there are over 129,000 threads

As you look to the decluttering of YOUR life reflect upon the 40,0000 postings you have made to Mudcat.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

as the optimistic child replied with glee, when he was presented with a room full of horse-manure and THEN BEGAN happily throwning it aroumd....."With all this shit, there MUST br a poney in here somewhere!!!!"


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