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Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK

Arthur_itus 15 Aug 10 - 04:31 PM
Sooz 15 Oct 10 - 07:42 AM
Rockhen 22 Oct 10 - 06:58 PM
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Arthur_itus 23 Oct 10 - 04:02 AM
greg stephens 23 Oct 10 - 05:06 AM
Backwoodsman 23 Oct 10 - 05:34 AM
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greg stephens 23 Oct 10 - 06:26 AM
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GUEST,Alan Whittle 23 Oct 10 - 06:43 AM
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Subject: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 04:31 PM

Not seen anything posted on this yet, but it is very important IMHO for Lincolnshire.

Mary from Grimsby Folk club sent this e-amil.

Hello everyone,

"Write a Lincolnshire Folk Song Competition" is back

after an enforced absence the competion is back sponsored by Heritage Trust of Lincolnshire , and was launched yesterday at the event at Leadenham - it was a great day for those of you who missed it.

I have application forms if any one wants them, they will be at the club in September.

Details all entries to be received by October 22nd sent to Heritage Trust of Lincolnshire The Old School House
Cameron St Heckington Sleaford Lincs NG 34 9RW

Short listed songs will be performed and the winners chosen at a special concert Spilsby Theatre Thursday November 25th 2010, the 10 shortlisted songs will be recorded by BBC Radio Lincolnshire for Broadcast
To comply with the spirit of the event the song must be new and must not have appreared previously on commercial available recording and must be under 4 mins long.

for full rules of the competition, pick up an entry form.


Mary

I do not have any further info.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Sooz
Date: 15 Oct 10 - 07:42 AM

Only a week to go to get your entry in!


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Rockhen
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 06:58 PM

Posted ours in time I think, last week. It is nice the competition is running again this year. Well done to all those influential in getting it up and running again.
Is there any rule saying whether you can put the song up online before the competition. I would like to put ours on our myspace as a lot of local people in our town gave us their memories to help us write our song. I'd like them to be able to have a listen but I don't want to do that if it is not 'allowed' before the end of the competition. Does anyone know if we can?


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Sooz
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 03:10 AM

I'm not sure about Myspace but you are allowed to perform it enough to learn it (always a struggle for us!)


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 04:02 AM

My guess would be that you are not allowed to put it in the public domain until the competition is over.
What Sooz says is correct - get out there to any singaround etc and perform it - that is allowed.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: greg stephens
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 05:06 AM

So, how do the judges decide whether the entries are folk songs? Have they published their criteria as guidance for would-be entrants? Or are all songs deemed to be folksongs if they have been entered? In which case, do we agree with the implication that all songs are folksongs?
Discuss.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 05:34 AM

Troll Alert.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 05:40 AM

Nail on the head BWM


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 05:40 AM

Greg, this is a thread to publicise a competition for songwriters who wish to enter a song with a Lincolnshire theme. That's all.

It would be appreciated if those who want to start discussions along the lines of "What is Folk Music" (although God alone knows, that one's been beaten to death more than enough on this forum) kept out of this thread and started one of their own.

Thank you for your co-operation.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: greg stephens
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 06:26 AM

Sorry, I have no problem at all with a "song with a lIncolnshire theme" compettition. That's not what it says the competition is in the opening post, thouigh.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 06:42 AM

Greg, you're trying to turn this into another shit-slinging "What is/isn't Folk" thread. It's not that kind of thread.

What the competition is called isn't an issue. It's a highly enjoyable annual (almost) event which gives a lot of people a great deal of pleasure, and a lot of mostly unknown writers a chance to air their talents.

Please stop trolling, and go away and start your war somewhere else.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 06:43 AM

weird competition.

I always supported it as best I could by entering, writing something,
driving over from near Nottingham to Spilsby for the final. Doubt if I'll make it all the way from Dorset,

Apparently i used to piss the judges off by writing songs longer than 4 minutes - so be warned!
Not that I wrote twenty minute epic ballads or anything. But last time I entered, they preferred songs that people hadn't bothered rehearsing, but had scrawled hastily on the back of an envelope, which they read from onstage.

Dunno what happened with any of the other songs that year eventually - although I remember the winning song pissed off some people in Louth - glorifying a barmaid who gave away drinks or something. This outraged her employers who had paid for the drinks she gave away - there was some kerfuffle like that. I don't remember the exact details - perhaps someone would refresh my memory.

I remember Sue dewsbury used to a very good song about ploughing - a product of that comp. How many miles an acre?

My best effort is still on the Skegness website - although an American judge said did I realise I had written two songs in one?
http://www.visittheseaside.com/Events/


No - still sounds like just the one song to me. I remember also Skegness Council contacted me and said, would I mind inserting the couplte

Its a good idea
To go on the pier

so I did. lets hope it worked and it got more people on the pier - though somehow one doubts it!

If you get a invitation, go - just to experience the old courthouse in Spilsby - which is now a little theatre. although the dressing rooms are still very much cell like.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 06:50 AM

Doesn't qualify for the competition but here is a relatively new and little known Lincolnshire song with a historical theme sung by Yellerbelly Paul McHugh

Cursed Cornelius


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 07:02 AM

Well Greg, what Mary said, who is one of the judges, was

"Write a Lincolnshire Folk Song Competition"

All song entries are listened to and they finally come to the 10 shortlisted songs, which are sung live on the Finals night.

Above all, there is great emphasis on the lyrics rather than the tune. That is what the judges look at.

The songwriter does not have to sing the song and can ask another person to do it for them.

The person singing the song can win an award for the best interpreter of the song, on the night.

The Judges are people involved in folk based music.

Maybe Sooz, who has also been a judge in her time, might know if that is still roughly the way it works.

Whatever, it is an excellent evening and anybody in the top ten can be proud of themselves. For those who don't make it into the top 10, it can be very disapointing.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 07:07 AM

Big Al, maybe you could write a song about Big Ron Atkinson, who is now a Director of Louth Football Club :-)


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 07:30 AM

The one I entered was fun although didn't get anywhere .
Mind you I hadn't read the article in the folk magazine I had no knowledge of,by some welsh bloke I didn't know, who sort of said what he thought the best subjects would be.
I only know all this because I saw him hand over the award for a song that followed his idea about what the song subject should be.
It was a very good song and very well performed BTW.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Sooz
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 08:10 AM

I've been a judge, an entrant, out at the shortlisting stage, a finalist and a winner.
The judges are looking for a song with a definite Lincolnshire theme first of all, then obviously their personal likes and dislikes come into play. They use a voting system to decide on the winner and it can take a very long time to thrash out the final details!
I have to say that my experience has been that it really is a non-competitive event for everyone who reaches the final. Finals night is most enjoyable for the participants and the audience alike.

BTW there hasn't been a competition for the last two years since the BBC banned competitions. (So why is Strictly Come Boring still on TV?)


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 08:15 AM

Ah that's a competition for posh folk and celebs.....competitions for plebs like you and Mike, that's another matter.

You'll be wanting to go on Through the Keyhole next.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 09:06 AM

Is that a tv thing Sooz never seen it myself...


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 09:59 AM

Another original Lincolnshire song to entertain you while you're waiting for the results of the competition

Wolds Maiden's Lament


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Mavis Enderby
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 10:00 AM

perhaps someone would refresh my memory

Here you go...

Louth Leader article


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: autoharpbob
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 11:22 AM

Course this could always be read as a "Lincolnshire-Folk" Song - a song for or by or about Lincolnshire folk. Sorry I have seen this after the closing date!


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Rockhen
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 12:07 PM

Goodness...what a lot of posts, today! I will take it that I can't put our song online until after the results, then. I only wanted those people who had contributed ideas to hear it, as they have been asking, but I will just wait until it is 'legal'! I don't want to annoy anyone! :-)


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 12:39 PM

Well get them to the Hope Tavern and sing it live Rockhen!


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: greg stephens
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 12:56 PM

Still not quite clear. Are the judges there to say whether my song is good or not, or to say whether it is a folk song or not? That will very much affect how I approcah the competition.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 12:59 PM

greg.. you are too late to enter a song now anyway.....!...closing date was yesterday


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 01:27 PM

Greg - just do it - it's fun. Daft fun at times - but fun!

Theres a chip shop to die for in Spilsby: the bar of the theatre is in the judges old robing rooms,; theres great craic with all the musicians; Batemans ales; a travel lodge down the road in Boston.

I've all kinds of weird shit in the final - people with sequencers and synths; care in the community types; John Denver clones going on about the green fields of Lincolnshire; the 'I knew Peter Bellamy and he would have liked me' brigade. All human life. the judges are quite unaccountable - never having let me won.

but they can't fuck up what is a great night.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Sooz
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 01:51 PM

The 10 finalists have just been announced. I wasn't quick enough to write them all down but I did hear Rockhen's name mentioned and also Strummin' Steve amoungst them.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 02:26 PM

Simon Johnson & Richard Langridge /Kathryn O'Connor
Dick Appleton
Stitherum
Jim Hancock
Steve Jackson
Helian Keys (I think)

Can't remember the rest as was in the car at the time

Congratulations to those that made it. Sounds a tough night this year.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 05:02 PM

Stitherum
                                                                   Paul Dickinson

Dick Appleton

Phil Thomson

Steve Jackson

Clarty Sough

Wendy Ellis

Mark Ashworth

LN3

Helen Bennett & Ian Maver aka Helian Keys

As provided by Dai Woosnam.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: BusyBee Paul
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 05:06 PM

Some well known Lincolnshire names in that little lot!

Well done all,

Deirdre


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 05:12 PM

Well that can't be roight loik.

Simon Johnson, Richard Langridge and Kathryn O'Connor are definitely in the top ten.

Maybe LN3 was meant to be above.

Very tough line up.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Sooz
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 03:41 PM

They announced the running order this evening - we're on last. I suppose we really should learn the song now!


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 05:47 PM

Hmmm so that's where I always go wrong.
Good luck all u song smiths.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Rockhen
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:33 PM

It's tomorrow. Good luck all and fingers crossed that it doesn't snow!


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Sooz
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 03:47 AM

So far so good - see you there!


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 10:54 AM

My belly it is yellow
My voice it can bellow
If my accordion note lingers
It's 'cos I have extra fingers.



Have fun.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 03:07 PM

Good luck to you all, and do take care driving home.


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Sooz
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 04:06 AM

Ist Mark Ashworth - When the Gallopers come to town.
Runners up: Jim Hancock - The Ancholme Toll Bridge and Dick Appleton - The Lincoln Castle Demolition Crew.
Performance prize - Phil Thompson.

As ever, jolly cameraderie and a long cold journey home (especially for Mark, all the way to Berkshire!)


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 04:55 AM

Congratulations to Mark! His song 'Hearts of Oak Run Aground' was my favourite in the comp. a few years ago (I still do it occasionally).


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Sooz
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 07:02 AM

He sang that one for his warm-up song!


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Leadfingers
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 12:28 PM

Mark Ashworth is a very talented writer ! He sang 'Gallopers' last week at Maidenhead as a rehearsal !


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 12:42 PM

So who are the Gallopers?


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Pig William
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 06:07 PM

Well, thanks for the kind words, and for the friendly Lincolnshire welcome I received (as ever). I was surprised and very pleased at the result - as usual, there were lots of good songs, and very good performers. Nice to see some familiar faces and good to see this fine event re-established.

Sue, despite Tom's assertion, I didn't drive back straight away - Mary won't let me do that any more. It would have been better if I had, then I wouldn't have decided to avoid the M25 by using the M40 instead of the A1/M1, and so I wouldn't have spent that extra 3+ hours in a traffic jam! Ah well, I'm home now...

John, I'm delighted to hear that you sing 'Hearts of oak...', makes me feel a bit like a real songwriter...

Arthur, 'gallopers' is another name for the traditional fairground carousel with the horses etc - the song was on a fairground theme, triggered by the discovery that there's a company (John H Rundle Ltd) near Boston that still builds and restores these rides.

Cheers, Mark


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Subject: RE: Lincolnshire FolkSong Comp 2010 UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 03:59 AM

Thanks Mark


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