BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser

Subject: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 02:06 PM

Rove-backed group raised $13M since attacks from Obama

By Michael O'Brien - 10/13/10 10:02 AM ET


The GOP-aligned American Crossroads said Wednesday it has raised over $13 million since coming under attack from President Obama.

The group and its campaign affiliate, Crossroads GPS, said it had easily surpassed its initial fundraising goal of $50 million to spend on behalf of Republicans, and has increased its target to $65 million, according to spokesman Jonathan Collegio.

The boffo numbers come after a week in which Obama led Democrats in attacks on the group, which is affiliated with GOP strategists Ed Gillespie and Karl Rove. Both are veterans of President George W. Bush's White House.

Obama accused American Crossroads and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce of possibly receiving money from foreign donors and corporations to fund their electoral activities, a charge the groups deny.

The administration has shown no sign of relenting in their attacks toward the groups, which could have a major impact in the final weeks before Nov. 2, when voters head to the polls in crucial midterm elections.

Collegio said the attacks had only driven interest in the group's activities, and that the increased fundraising would allow Crossroads to spend an additional $10 million in House races, and $5 million more in Senate races.

The Chamber, also in light of Democratic attacks, vowed only to "ramp up" its political activities in the closing weeks of the campaign.

The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday detailed how Crossroads, combined with other allied groups, would be able to spend $50 million on ads in the closing weeks of the campaign to deliver the House to Republicans.

"It's no wonder Republicans in Congress moved hell and high water to thwart disclosure requirements," said Democratic National Committee (DNC) communications director Brad Woodhouse in response to the WSJ report, referencing the GOP's efforts to block the Disclose Act in the Senate.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: GUEST,999
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 02:14 PM

I`ll wait until I read what Pat Robertson has to say about it, him being so level-headed and all.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 02:22 PM

There has been a trend in the local election campaigning here (NH). Virtually all of the ads I've seen on TV or received in the mail have been attack ads on named Democrat candidates with NIO mention of the Republican/Whacko party candidates. What I end up with are the Democrat's names in my head, which I will remember on election day.

This is why attack ads don't work--at least not when you don't provide an alternative candidate. IMO

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:01 PM

A dude on the Pro Obama, GE [recipient of stimulus money] owned, MSNBC network was saying the administration realizes they have messed up on what they were supposed to deliver to the American people, at least for this year.

He said they are bringing up this probably unfounded accusation as a diversion to shift the focus off of their shortcomings.

Karl Rove has shifted sides methinks.

Of course Democrats can use foreign money when they can get away with it.

Anyway they are shittin' in their own dinner bucket by beating up on businesses but Obama hasn't figured that out. He knows nothing about business except how to work against them.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 12:03 AM

Well, I suppose the thread title is true. The same went for Bill Clinton in 1994, and we ended up with the disastrous "Contract With America." Those Republicans sure know how to turn on the hate speech....

"Republican" and "civilized" have become a contradiction in terms. They know how to tear people down, but do they have any positive alternative plans?

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Wesley S
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 07:08 AM

"but do they have any positive alternative plans?"

Jeez Joe - Warn a guy first. I was drinking coffee and now it's all over the keyboard.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 07:58 AM

Like I have pointed out a time or two... Let a black man get elected president and Redneck Nation is going to dig deep in it's pockets to contribute lynch money...

That's what this is all about...

Oh sure, Redneck Nation will say it about "Obamacare", which BTW they couldn't tell you what is in the bill, or other policies that they are equally ignorant about but it's thinly veiled racism that the corporations are using to try to beat back any attempts to fix a broken economic system that favors their bottom lines over the well being of the nation in general...

This is politics as usual with Rove's fingerprints all over it...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Stringsinger
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 10:17 AM

Race prejudice has always been a good money maker for Republicans.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 12:45 PM

Claiming racial prejudice has always been a good money maker for the Democrats.




From: Amos - PM
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 12:44 PM

When you paint with broad enough a brush, ..., you can say anything you like, but it becomes meaningless.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Wesley S
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:33 PM

BB sez - "Claiming racial prejudice has always been a good money maker for the Democrats."

As opposed to ACTUAL racial prejudice as practiced by conservatives? Who is it that traditionally stands in the way of equal rights for blacks, women, gays ect?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:37 PM

The Democrats...


If YOU think that affirmative action is anything other than liberals saying that "Miniorities are not capable of making it in a level playing field- we have to give them an advantage in order for them to compete." YOU need to rethink your attitudes.

Otherwise, it would be based on INCOME of parents, and NOT RACE.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:40 PM

"Keep 'em down and voting Democrat!"

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Wesley S
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:49 PM

Since when did the conservatives ever provide minorities a level playing field?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:50 PM

you can say anything you like, but it becomes meaningless.

YOU SAID IT



Karl Rove will not deny that the Republican Chamber of Congress is dispensing foreign funds to influence US Federal elections.

Sure its been illegal since 1909 but lots of things can't be proved illegal when it is currently legal to not disclose information to the US goverment.

Rove has been squeezing the crimal balloon for years only to have the balloon pop out under someone else's name be it the Valerie Plame deal or the firing of US attorneys. Like any Consialari for the Mob, Karl is safe to pursue the interests of billionaires until

he slips up under his own name.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:52 PM

The Chamber has dispensed 900,000,000 dollars to Republican candidates for this 2010 race so far.

ThaTs just shy of a BILLION.


its meaningless?

no you are.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:52 PM

Obama did not deny that HE took Chinese money to become President.

And there was Hezboallah money sent him, as well ( from Lebenon).




So can we impeach him NOW????

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:53 PM

"Republican Chamber of Congress "


No such thing...

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:56 PM

Since when did the liberals ever provide minorities a level playing field, or treat them as competent people????

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Oct 10 - 10:06 AM

"Oh sure, Redneck Nation will say it about "Obamacare", which BTW they couldn't tell you what is in the bill"

Do you know what is in the bill Bobert? Did you know about the new 1099 requirements?"

And your reference to Redneck Nation is a bigoted statement.

Is there a Hillbilly Nation that feels superior to the Red***ks?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Oct 10 - 10:10 AM

"We're very thankful to have the Chamber's support," Rep. Jim Marshall's spokesman Doug Moore said in an interview with ABC News. "We were glad to wake up one morning and have someone supporting us and not attacking us."

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Oct 10 - 10:58 AM

All hill billies are rednecks but not all rednecks are hill billies? :-)

BTW the chamber is running ads against the Blue Dog in this district. I guess voting for the insurance companies on the health care bill wasn't enough for them.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: kendall
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 08:53 AM

Most of the republicans I have ever known have these things in common. Judgmental.
Greedy
self centered. "Pull up the ladder, I'M aboard"
Humorless.

Karl Rove is the best example I know of a typical republican.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 02:33 PM

Now that's funny.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: kendall
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 02:48 PM

Screw the poor, let them eat cake. I got mine, go get yours.

Are there no work houses? are the jails all full? (E. Scrooge)

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 06:57 PM

(Reuters) - Investor Warren Buffett and Microsoft (MSFT.O) founder Bill Gates announced on Wednesday that they are asking hundreds of billionaire Americans to give away at least 50 percent of their wealth to charity.

Buffett, who made his fortune with insurance and investment company Berkshire Hathaway Inc   Gates and his wife, Melinda, have held a series of dinners with a couple dozen rich Americans in the past year to urge them to make a philanthropic pledge.

They have named the campaign the Giving Pledge and are asking those who commit to giving away at least half their fortune during their lifetime or after their death to publicly state their intention with a letter explaining their decision.

Patty Stonesifer, a former chief executive of the Gates Foundation and now adviser to Gates and Buffett, said that four families had agreed to announce their pledge on Wednesday -- real estate and construction billionaire Eli Broad, venture capitalist John Doerr, media entrepreneur Gerry Lenfest and former Cisco Systems (CSCO.O) Chairman John Morgridge.

Broad and his wife Edythe said in a statement that they will pledge to give away 75 percent of their wealth during and after their lifetime. Forbes has estimated Broad to be worth $5.7 billion.

"We agree with Andrew Carnegie's wisdom that 'The man who dies rich, dies disgraced,' and we also believe 'he who gives while he lives also knows where it goes,'" the couple said. "Philanthropy is unbelievably rewarding."

Lenfest has already given away more than $800 million, or about 65 percent of his fortune, a spokeswoman said. The amount pledged by Doerr and Morgridge was not immediately available.

In a letter posted on the campaign's website, www.givingpledge.org, Buffett said he "couldn't be happier" with his 2006 decision to give away 99 percent of his wealth to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and family charities.

"Now, Bill and Melinda Gates and I are asking hundreds of rich Americans to pledge at least 50 percent of their wealth to charity," Buffett, 79, said.

He said that so far about 20 percent of his Berkshire Hathaway shares, including shares given by his late wife Susan, had been distributed to charity and that he would continue to distribute annually 4 percent of the shares he retains.

SPENDING ON CURRENT NEEDS

"At the latest, the proceeds from all of my Berkshire shares will be expended for philanthropic purposes by 10 years after my estate is settled. Nothing will go to endowments; I want the money spent on current needs," Buffett wrote.

Gates was ranked the second richest man in the world by Forbes magazine this year with $53 billion, while Buffett came in at No. 3 with $47 billion. Forbes said the United States is home to 403 billionaires, the most in the world.

Bill and Melinda Gates have so far given more than $28 billion to their foundation. Since the foundation began in 1994 it has given away more than $22 billion for health improvements in poor countries and to improve access for Americans to opportunities they need to succeed in school and life.

The Giving Pledge will not accept any money; it is simply asking billionaires to make a moral commitment to give away their wealth to charity.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 07:07 PM

The only thing wrong with Buffet and Gates giving their money away is that Democrats want to collect their money and then they get to decide who gets what. The shepherds of society.

The very idea of people deciding what to do with their own property loathsome to them. They can't persuade the masses that they are the only ones that can take care of them because they are too stupid to take care of themselves. They can't perpetuate the victim hood that keeps the masses under their control.

I don't think so.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: kendall
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 07:43 PM

The fact is many Americans are not able to care for themselves, and all men are not created equal. IQs run the gamut from idiot to genius.Hitler had the solution for the retarded but I like to think we are more civilized. I'm a long way from retarded but I am disabled, physically.
As Tom Paxton wrote: Newt Gingrich says he has a plan for every woman, child and man; it will cost far less and I'll tell you why, when you get sick you just die,die,die."

I could support Obama care if they would take out the part about forcing us to buy health insurance. How the hell can anyone who is unemployed buy insurance?

I still say the only solution is a single payer. It works in Europe, in spite of the lies the right wing are spreading.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: kendall
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 08:13 PM

For the benefit of all you Americans who hate socialized medicine, here is something to ponder.
In England, they pay 15% of their income into the national health care system. That is on top of the regular income tax of 15% up to the age of 60. From 60 on they pay nothing, and there is no age limit for whatever care they need, including hip replacements for 70 year olds.

Now, what the hell is wrong with that? Our system is based on greed and barbarism.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama- Best Republican Fund raiser
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Oct 10 - 02:30 PM

The fact is if you tell people they cannot take care of themselves, that's what they believe.

If you tell them some bad guy is responsible for their woes, they tend to believe it.

If you tell them I will fight those bad guys because you are incapable of running your own life, they believe it and follow you.

So which is better people running their own lives or people believing they can't?

Quit wallowing in victimhood.

There is nothing in that bill to reduce health care costs. The lobbyists that wrote it made sure. Now premiums are going up to cover whatever extra benefits it provides.