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Music Hosting Websites: Alternatives to MySpace

Tootler 21 Nov 10 - 11:04 AM
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Subject: Music Hosting Websites
From: Tootler
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 11:04 AM

This thread has been prompted by the recent threads on problems with MySpace Music.

I did a search for websites where you can upload audio files and there were pages and pages of them. There have also been mention of sites where Mudcatters store their music and it would be nice to gather some of these in one place.

So if you have a music presence online, why not share your experiences;

  1. Where is your music hosted?

  2. What is your experience of the site? What features does it have? What limits on what you can upload? Ease of use?

  3. Would you recommend it to others?

  4. Anything else?


I have material on You Tube which, of course, is essentially a video site, but it is not too difficult to create a minimal "video" - I create slide shows from my photos. I am particularly interested in audio sites, but please feel free to include video sites as well.

Link to my You Tube channel


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 11:21 AM

My Channel on Youtube   Will be subscribing to yours Tootler...like the sound.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 11:39 AM

"Where is your music hosted?"

I used to have a Music MySpace, till I ditched it.

"What is your experience of the site? What features does it have? What limits on what you can upload? Ease of use?"

I *quite* liked it. Not a bad place to link to other folk enthusiasts, though it was mainly useful a pro/semi-pro portfolio than as a virtual community for amateur enthusiasts - which is one of the reasons I ditched it. Limit of uploads to ten, which isn't as much fun for the amateur who - unlike someone who needs to sell their music for a living - has no need to limit free public access to their full portfolio of songs.

"Would you recommend it to others?"

To other amateurs? Perhaps not, a tad restrictive IMO.

"Anything else?"

As said elsewhere - I rather like the look of Boden's blog, I might give that format a shot instead. A blog gives one the opportunity for general associated ramblings - or indeed images if you're a bit of an artist or photographer - and offering lyrics too, all in the same posting.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 11:40 AM

for some reason I can't post in the 'from' box!

Message from Crowsister/CS above


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 03:34 PM

We appear (So far) to have escaped the problems others seem to be reporting with myspace, maybe because we have a customised page done for us by a web designer friend??

We have used ilike to host music in the past, and had their music player embedded in our website, but.....ilike have merged with myspace! and can't get the embedded music player to work any more, so have just set up a page on reverbnation and embedded their music player on our main site, reverbnation is a bit gimicky, with charts et al, but all working fine (at the moment)

Links below so you can see it working

Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/thebountyhounds

Reverbnation: http://www.reverbnation.com/thebountyhounds

Website with reverbnation player embedded: http://www.bountyhounds.co.uk/?page_id=17


John


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 03:38 PM

Meant to say, some lovely blowin' on your youtube page Tootler. super pictures to accompany as well.

John


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Artful Codger
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 09:38 AM

Apart from YouTube (and "social networking" sites like MySpace, which I will not join), which sites do you search when looking for music clips?

I've been considering SoundClick as an alternative to YouTube--I don't want the hassle or extra space hogging attendant with creating videos--but I must confess that YouTube and Amazon are about the only sites I search when trying to find a sample of a tune. And they're about the only sites which reliably come up when one does a blanket Google search.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 10:42 AM

Soundcloud is hip these days, though right now I'm going down the well-trodden path of linking Rapidshare to Blogspot, which has other advantages too. Here's one I did earlier to give you an idea:

http://ploughmyth.blogspot.com/


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 10:44 AM

How stranhe - I can post as an anonymous GUEST but not as GUEST Suibhne Astray!


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Artful Codger
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 01:31 PM

I just looked at Soundcloud, but their introductory pages are so deficient in any real details, I won't be wasting any more time at that site. I don't want sound bites and rosy promises, I want hard information.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Tootler
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 06:52 PM

I just looked at Soundcloud, but their introductory pages are so deficient in any real details....

I found that to be a common problem. I found this site which had a guide to music hosting sites, but most of those I looked did not really make it clear what exactly they were offering.

What is needed is recommendations from people who use the various sites.

I was unimpressed with Rapidshare. I followed Suibhne's link and when I tried to connect to his music links, the site seemed to freeze. I checked on my homeplug link and the led's showing activity were constant - ie. no activity, so I closed the page and tried again at which point I got an error message implying that I was overloading the site, so I closed the page again and retried and this time got an error message implying that I was initiating a denial of service attack. There is something wrong there and I am not sure what it is. Most links like that in Suibhne's will take you to a player, but this seemed to take you to a sign up page, so I don't know what was going on. I do know I won't be using Rapidshare.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:06 AM

Tootler - thanks for starting this thread. It's very timely, given what's happening with Myspace at the moment. My page there seems fine at the moment (though I haven't tried uploading songs recently), but I hate the mess that my Home Page has become. And the other main thing that for me has really changed the character of Myspace is the huge drop in musician activity. I used to enjoy the networking with other musicians, and it was also often very useful for getting gigs, but all that's sadly mostly gone.

So I'm looking forward with interest to hearing from others about their experience with other sites for presenting music, band details, etc, and for networking.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:07 AM

Sue, Our experience is that more musicians are using Facebook for networking these days. We still maintain the mysapce page, but little happens there!

Whether you like Facebook or not, it works for us, and does seem to be the one for networking at the moment. We have a profile, and a specific page for the band, where you can do all the things you can on myspace, dates, update fans, upload music etc, etc.

Link to our FB page:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/The-Bounty-Hounds/52279174263

We now use reverbnation for hosting music and to provide an embedded player in our website. http://www.reverbnation.com/thebountyhounds we were using ilike for the embedded music player, but it ceased to function after ilike jumped into bed with myspace!

Any catters want to be friends on facebook, come and find us.

John


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Tootler
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 06:25 PM

I've signed up for Sound Cloud for now. It was not too difficult in the end to find out what you got when you signed up. They give you playing time (in minutes) rather than number of tracks or disk space in MB. The free version gives you 120 minutes playing time.

Uploading is straightforward and there is a box to add a commentary on your tracks when you upload together with tags. Not unlike You Tube.

I have uploaded one track to Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/tootlingeoff/westmoreland

I have also signed up for Soundclick. I can compare them and keep the one I like better. Soundclick doesn't seem to have a limit on the number of tracks you can upload. Olddude is on Soundclick, maybe a comment from you on your experience if you are reading this.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: olddude
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 06:51 PM

Soundclick, it is very secure and they don't keep sending you junk emails every 5 minutes like some of the others do. Revernation is ok but you get a lot of sign up for Junk email ... soundclick I never get that type of stuff ... What I like is you can also see how many people played or downloaded what song so you can know what tunes people seem to like or dislike. They also rate your music along with others in the same genera so that helps also. The only thing is to sign up you should have at least one of "original content" as that is what soundclick really is about.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:27 PM

Olddude: spot on about the amount of junk emails you get from reverbnation. If anyone has other suggestions for a (free) music hosting site where you can embed a music player to play several tunes on your own web site, I'd be pleased to hear about them.

In theory you can embed the music player from myspace, but I can't get that to work, and the ilike one stopped working when they joined forces with myspace!!

At least the revebnation one works at the moment, is free and does give you an indication of how many plays there have been from your website as well as directly on Reverbnation.

http://www.bountyhounds.co.uk/?page_id=17

Tootler: loving your tunes, keep the links coming!

John


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Subject: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 09:03 AM

I've got a MySpace page, but I'm not very happy with it for a variety of reasons:

- it looks horrible
- it's hard to work with
- you can't link to individual songs
- ...or comment on songs
- ...or tag or categorise songs
- also, Murdoch

Do any alternatives spring to mind?

What I want to do:
- put recordings up where people can hear them
- tag/categorise/organise recordings, e.g. to separate out the trads from the originals from the Bellamys
- end up with a page that's easy on the eye and easy to use

What I don't want to do:
- make videos
- sell tracks
- pay (much) money*
- join Facebook (I've managed to avoid it thus far)

Any ideas? What have other people used?

*Wordpress charges $20 US per year for uploading MP3s to a blog, which works out at about a pound a month. I'd still rather pay nothing at all if possible!


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: michaelr
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 12:38 PM

ReverbNation has been touted here.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: GUEST,bankley
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:27 PM

check out the site 'No Depression' -the roots music authority

it might be what you want...


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:33 PM

Soon as I can figure out how to save the stuff I have on Myspace the sooner I`ll be off that site.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:41 PM

What happened to the videos that Dan got rid of? Do you still have files somewhere, or did he have everything Simon shot?


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:42 PM

I will be right behind you, when you find a home


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:43 PM

I`ll let you know soon as, John.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 04:15 PM

I'm exploring Soundcloud and Reverb Nation for Folk Police Recordings. Liking Soundcloud a lot. Very simple - just about the music. RN might be better for an individual performer though - lots of opportunities to write about yourself, upload photos, list gigs etc.

Best of all, neither of them are Myspace!


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 04:21 PM

I have this page tagged so`s I can find it again. I do appreciate the input from all of you. I am so POed I don`t know whether to shit, wind my watch or steal third base.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 05:15 PM

Go into 'stuff', Bruce..then into 'edit profile'...then simply copy and paste everything in there into an email and save it. That'll give you all the html bits and bobs, including all the videos and photos.


Bloody cheek to plaster everyone's pages with **** adverts! Right at the top too, so the eye goes there first...They deserve to lose all their custom. Such a crying shame, when it all worked so well, once upon a time...


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 05:17 PM

Aye well Lizzie, first the bait, then the hook!


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 05:37 PM

Thanks, Liz.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 07:20 PM

Just posting here so I can come back to this thread when I leave Myspace!

By the way, there's another almost identical thread to this one here


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Nick
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 07:55 PM

I use Esnips which gives 5gb of space (I've used about 40%) and has a little widget thing that looks like this


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:49 AM

to sign up you should have at least one of "original content" as that is what soundclick really is about

Original meaning
...not someone else's recordings
...not a cover version
...not trad.?

I'd be fine with the first, iffy about the second and the third would rule it right out.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:51 AM

By the way, there's another almost identical thread to this one here

Oops. Mods, feel free to merge.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: JHW
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 07:15 AM

There is another recent thread but Search wouldn't find it for me. I nearly started OBIT-MySpace

I've tried to delete my MySpace site but its still there looking horrible. It did make some referrals to my proper site but now I'd rather no-one saw it. Beats me why MSp has this deathwish. Keep finding new ways to make it look worse. It was never very receptive to writing stuff the way I wanted but now its beyond redemption.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 10:07 AM

Pip: are you sure about those WordPress charges? At the moment, I'm just gradually posting all my poems there as blogs (as an alternative to Myspace), but, having read your opening post, I just clicked the add-music button and it seems to be available for free?


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Tootler
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 11:06 AM

By the way, there's another almost identical thread to this one here

Oops. Mods, feel free to merge.


As originator of the other thread, I agree. I will contact a mudelf and ask for it to be done.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites
From: Tootler
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 11:10 AM

I didn't see anything that I could object to on Soundclick.

My understanding of "original content" was much like your first one. ie that you made the recording and you have the necessary rights to post it.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Tootler
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 11:14 AM

I've PM'd Joe Offer about merging the threads.
    Merge completed. -Joe-


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Acorn4
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 01:57 PM

The only problem with alternatives is that if everyone deserts it and goes elsewhere, the problem of linking will arise. The networking to other musician's sites is a very useful feature, and will be lost if everything fragments.

We think the brandname carries quite a lot of influence and are sticking with it for the time being.


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Subject: RE: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:14 PM

WAV - yes, there's an 'add audio' button, but if you try it you won't be able to add a file ending in mp3, m4a, wav or ogg (permitted file types are jpg/jpeg, png, gif, pdf, odt, doc/docx, ppt/pptx, pps/ppsx and xls/xlsx). Audio is extra.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 08:22 AM

I like the look of SoundCloud - that waveform visualisation thing may just be a gimmick, but it's a nice one.

Not sure about ReverbNation - all very biz-oriented; reminded me of playing Guitar Hero!

Anyone using Soundclick & got a URL to share?


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 03:27 PM

Acorn - I wondered about that too. One of Myspace's strengths used to be that it was the site that practically all musicians used, professional or otherwise, and it was thus great for networking and finding new music, sometimes by jumping from friend to friend. Not sure how this would work if everyone leaves Myspace for several different sites.


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Subject: RE: Music Hosting Websites: Alternatives to MySpace
From: Tootler
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 07:32 PM

Pip Radish,
Re: Soundcloud

I agree the waveform thing is a bit of a gimmick but, as you say, it looks nice. I have found Soundcloud easy to use, it will accept a wide variety of formats and upload times are generally pretty quick. The interface is pretty clean and it does not seem to be plagued by adverts. If you make your tracks downloadable (and you have a choice), the download will be in the format you uploaded so you can use it to transfer material to others in high quality formats. The site converts your uploads to mp3 for playback on the site.

There are free and paid for accounts. The free version has a limit on uploads but the limit is not on disk space or number of files but on the total playing time. You get a total of 120 minutes playing time which I think is pretty good. If you want more time, you have to pay.

You can find the stuff I have uploaded here: http://soundcloud.com/tootlingeoff


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