BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?

Subject: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 04:05 AM

The latest new age demiloon was on coast to coast radio today and talked about co existent time lines that sometimes swith before our eyes but our brain is accustomed to ignoring one line with amnesia.

What she said did obey certain quantum effects as in the double split photon experiement seemingly choosing which reality will be seen by merely paying attention to it.

I once saw the front fender of my car pass through the rear of another car. What I saw was immossible yet I remember it. Usually if something is impossible you don't even see it. You have to know what somthing is to understand it.

I had one of the most important and unusual moments of my life yet I recall remaining frozen and unable to move.

With a right alnd left brain maybe we can percive a smoother reality with a corpus collosum.

Has time behaved in a dual (or more) manner in your recollection

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 07:47 AM

I sometimes wonder whether I have switched time-lines at about age seven or eight, as some of my early memories do not seem coherent with modern physics or biology. Either that or I unknowingly was aquainted with a hemaphrodite, confused me for years!

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 10:38 AM

The time line phenomenon is somthing that is said to be in constant millisecond flux.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Lox
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 02:42 PM

Interesting stuff - I'd have to think hard about whether any experiences I had fitted this idea and if so, how.

The mind boggles!

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Jeanie
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:00 AM

For those interested in this kind of thing, there's a promising TV programme coming up this week on UK TV:

BBC2 Monday 17th January "Horizon: What Is Reality ?"

Part of the blurb for the programme says: " Is it really possible that we are part of a cosmic hologram, projected from the edge of the universe, or that we exist in an infinity of parallel worlds ?"

They also quote Niels Bohr, "Anyone who isn't shocked by quantum theory has not understood it."

I've certainly had some experiences re. time - my own feeling is that time isn't actually linear at all and to view it as linear clouds the issue. Rather, somehow, everything is happening always.

Hmmmm..... : )

- jeanie

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: bobad
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:13 AM

"...maybe we can percive a smoother reality with a corpus collosum."

I'd like to perceive a smoother reality with a corpus cavernosum.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 10:05 AM

You may have been having a precognitive vision, Don.

I stopped doing long nighttime drives when I became aware of hallucinations due to tiredness.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 10:31 AM

So could my daughter still be alive on the other timeline? If so, how do I jump?

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 09:40 PM

VT, I think the answer may be that you are already there.

I still can't grasp an epiphany I had once. It goes like this:

There is no use wishing I had never been born. Had I not neen born me, I would have been born as someone else and then I would still be 'me'.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Slag
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 12:21 AM

From my point of view, the world and the universe came into being when I first precieved it. As others explained to me what they knew of the phenomenon and all accompanying phenomena, that seemed reasonable and it modified my view. And then I discovered quantum mechanics and all that entails. Throw in psychology, philosophy and religion, metaphysics and grain alcohol and you have a wonderland where just about anything can happen and if not in this universe then in the next one, or the next.

I imagine when I wink out of this plane, it will all cease to exist. Reason tells me "no" but experience tells me "yes".

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 06:22 AM

"So could my daughter still be alive on the other timeline? If so, how do I jump? "

The problem is that at any given time the number of alternative outcomes in the next moment are enormous. I hesitate to say infinite, but the number would be equally unimaginable.

For instance - keeping an example simple - your next action has two choices therefore two alternative future realities, then your next action combine with mine - 4 alternatives - so just taking the world population x 2 alternatives - 2 to the power of more than 6 billion.

On a much smaller level, but still limiting to human action - 2 to the power of 6 billion to the power of the number of simultaneous synaptic jumps.

That is just at one 'moment'. Then raise that to the power of number of moments per second x 60 x 60 x 24. That is the total number of possible future realities based on human action in one day.

So it not just about making the jump, but knowing where to jump to.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 09:27 AM

"worry tendentiously about his sesquipedalian vocabulary"

Say that again, Slag.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 01:46 PM

Baracle, you hit on something that I really believe is part of the phenomenon.

The precog stuff can be more easily noticed in a focused state of mind such as driving. Yesterday I saw from a distance the traffic lights turn yellow, but when I came around the bend and was right upon them they were still green and just then, turned yellow.

I would include the feeling of being watched and you turn in just the right direction to see a person staring at you. Or, I wonder if the phone is going to "RING"



Cooperator, could I hire you to portray the scientist in the all new series, TIme Bender. ;^}

I have sometimes entertained the notion that I have made choices to be in this particular time line because of the dire conseqences that had happened in "the alternative".

Its hard to imagine stepping into a alternate time line by turning yourself in the direction of the z axis and shuffling in sideways as through a narrow turnstile that demands turning sideways. I think if it happens it is not remembered in your current time line but there may be some after effects such as missing time or the sudden feeling for 2 seconds that the familiar feels suddenly unfamiliar and then you recognize you are only two blocks away from home.

But seriously I do not believe these phenomenon are all intersecting time possibilities. But equally it is possilbe that these annomolies are not all perceptual quirks of consciousness.

Driving tired at night you might see what looks like a person at the near edge of the road and feel startled. Some call these incidents shadow people. These mini hallucinations are from an alpha state of mind when you are perilously close to falling asleep. I do not attribute them to time tricks.



One of the clearest examples of what 'Cooperator' and others are talking about is seen clearly in the split beam photon experient. In a documentary called What the bleep do we know, and its sequel Down the rabbit hole. The animations from these videos give a cyrstal clear understanding of the strange actions of light being influenced by what we decide to look at, as well as one thing ACTUALLY being in two places at once. I kid you not.

Given these quantum effects it is possible that our consciousness has structures to take these bizarre events in our life to seem like perfectly normal fluctuations to the point they are almost unrecognizable.

Call it precog or intersecting time lines, they may have life and death consequences. Or it could be just rarified BS.





There are tons of sci fi novels that deal with this stuff.
The man who folded himself, Time Tunnel, Dr. Who...

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 03:31 PM

I just want to trade conciousness with the other me who is still kicking around with Andie for a little while.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 01:32 AM

Andie's consciousness rides within you.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Bert
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 09:28 AM

Joe does this all the time with threads here.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 09:47 AM

Thew Wes Ginny Slide Rule has been workin' on this one:

If you were to go to the top of the world where all the longitude lines intersect and walked counterclockwise around that point would you get younger??? And if so, if you walked around it fir a couple days could you knock years off yer age???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 10:36 AM

But how do you know where all the lines intersect?* Yer dun gotta be accurate or the eccentricity will get ya. Only certain years will erase - you may be left with all the pre-divorce years.






* the Arctic is a floating Ice Palace so it will have shifted soon as measured. Every millimeter counts - PAL!

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 10:51 PM

There was no suggestion that one can influence the past. Time seems to be sensed by some people as a now, with elements of seeing a "pre-now". You are selecting time lines with your choices in every nanosecond of the approximate now.

Where this idea runs into confusion is how do we agree upon a single timeline among billions of people at once. How does a consensus occur. Perhpas taking the whole is like the universe at large which does not fall prey to the quantum quirkiness of a single particle or a single person.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 09:51 AM

Perhaps this thread should have been called, have you ever seen quantum effects in your life.

The oods of you remembering a small impossible thing that happens is unlikely. When an impossilbe thing happens you might say to yourself "naw that didn't just happen, or if it is significantly outside any framework of the reality you know, then you might simply be unable to see it.

Perhaps a good experiemt would be to measure virtual praticles, with and with consciousness intervention. Consciously trying to increase virtual particle formation above the norm maight reveal the power of consciousness over dual dimensional realities.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 10:06 AM

As you cannot know where the lines intersect, you should simply live the best you can. Be in any moment as fully as you can.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 11:43 AM

Be in any moment as fully as you can." EBarnacle

I agree. And it is the only way to slow things down.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 02:43 PM

MY WIFE: You didn't load the dishwasher last night, and I had to do it.

ME: Oh, no, I know that I pre-rinsed the dishes and put them in the dishwasher, loaded the detergent, and pressed the 'start' button. I heard the cycle start before I went to bed.

MY WIFE: Well, before I went to bed I saw all those dirty, greasy dishes from the barbeque dinner in the sink and I had to load the dishwasher.

   (Some discussion left out here for brevity's sake, but each of us knows from personal knowledge that she/he loaded and ran the dishwasher last night.)

So here we are the next morning. I trust my wife, and I know what I did. The two time-lines we're talking about have obviously merged overnight. I didn't SEE them merge, but they evidently must have!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 07:31 AM

I've had a few of those conversations over the last year and they seem to be getting more frequent.
Are we in a time of instability between realities?

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:19 AM

Well, if you look at the discontinuity between the realities of the Tea Partiers and the rest of the polity, perhaps there is a period of instability.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:30 AM

I saw something clearly impossible years ago.

I encouered 2 balls of light that passed through brick walls and managed to touch one.

I think about it often

An unusual poem about it http://usera.imagecave.com/donuel/balloflight3.jpg


A picture I made was inspired by the experience and started with this book http://usera.imagecave.com/donuel/flat3big.jpg

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:36 AM

EBaracle Xenophobes and racists were attracted to the tea party and have always been around. They're the kind of people who back up their loss for words with guns.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:39 AM

sorry bout the missing comma.

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 12:05 PM

How does one touch a rainbow, Donuel? Isn't a ball of light somewhat similar?

Subject: RE: BS: Have you seen 2 time lines merge?
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 04:18 PM

The balls of light I saw seemed to emit ultra sonic sound by the way my manx cat reacted going from dozing to full hair raising fluff up and growl.

They were no bigger than a large softball one following 8 ft. behind the other. The light was nebulus and slightly foggy inside and did not radiate like a flashlight but softly glowed. When they passed into the next wall it did not illuminate the wall as it did. Afterwards I was extremely excited and normal time was all screwed up.

There is more to tell, but I was certain it was not made of water mist. When touched my finger was dry. It was the same finger, come to think of it, that went cold for almost a year. I felt like there was a dimensional explanation so I looked around for books and the first one I read that was very meaningful was Flatland.

A person is what happens to them. In grade school I came downstairs in the morning ready to go to school but I was still half asleep when I saw the Headlines of the paper say Winston Churchill Dead. I rubbed my eyes and it did not say anything like that. That afternoon Churchill suffered a stroke but then lingered for what seemd like days.

The day before my mother's stroke I saw a giant white bat fly about 20 feet away. I never saw one before or since. A white bat is not impossible but it reminds me of an American Indian vision.

About 8 years before 9-11 I painted two giant sky scrapers in flames looming above a city by a harbor. There were several dozen hands on twp to three foot long spindly arms all reaching for heaven. There were a couple actual feet raising upward as well. Now when one looks at it they only see 9-11.

The point is I am not the only one. There are thousands of people who fortold 9-11 in all sorts of ways. The MIT egg experiment shows that a random number generator starts become less random when millions of people focus on one particular event , such as 10 minutes before the planes hit or minutes before people waited to hear the OJ Simson verdict. Its amazing but it is measuring some kind of shift merely from the consciousness of millions of people.

I know that events change people. It is not crazy to say say people change events. But it seems as crazy as quantum physics to say time go be so fluid as to splash back into the past or slosh into the future.

For years I have asked people to see the "impossible" and remember when they do. First you have to know it can happen and that its possible for you to notice. Perhaps I should write a book " Look out for the Impossible"

The impossible is everywhere like virtual particles popping in and out of existence.

Just when I think I can prove the impossible exists or some prediction of mine, I get proved wrong.

The illusive proof that anyone can see in a physics lab where you can actually see with your naked eye a visble particle existing at two places at once, without smoke and mirrors.