BS: NFL 2011 (US football)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 05:39 PM

"Tbow ... unfair, has God on his side ..." LOL!!

I got this note from NFL.com

Steelers left tackle Max Starks and nose tackle Casey Hampton both sustained ACL injuries that could require surgery. ... Defensive end Brett Keisel suffered a "significant" groin injury and linebacker LaMarr Woodley's strained right hamstring remains balky. Then there was Martin out because of altitude.

I think key injuries to the defense made the difference. That was even with high ankle sprains on Pouncey and Ben. Steelers scored enough if the defense had been able to bring pressure.

Question? Did, God "injure" those guys to help Tebow win or is it just that the Steelers have a lot of guys in their thirties and got unlucky on the wrong day.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 04:52 PM

grrrrrrr   my Steelers lost to Denver, Now I gotta put up with my kids saying tee hee told ya dad ... Tbow ... unfair, has God on his side ...

watchout Pats they are sleepers that came alive ... go figure

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 04:49 PM

I have just one more thing to say to you on this subject.

Sun, Dec 18         Top Passer            Top Rusher          Top Receiver
NE 41 @ DEN 23 Tom Brady: 320 Yds Tim Tebow: 93 Yds Aaron Hernandez: 129 Yds

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 04:43 PM

Yeah, I can get with that, Jts. But I don't think the Broncos will be that slight on the rush early on... again, we'll see. That's why I think Yankee football is the best... it's chess with BIG men.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 04:38 PM

The problem wasn't the O-line it was the coverage and Ben's inability to move in the pocket. That said, Pouncy was out and NE has a healthy, practiced O-Line. So yeah, barring a late injury the Pats are THAT much better. The Pats have too many "weapons." If Denver brings that same 3 man rush crap to New England, Gronk and Hernandez will have huge games catching slants. Or Brady will rush for 80 yards. Which is very unlikely, but Denver left some big holes up the middle. Near the end of the game Ben basically walked for two or three 5-7 yard gains. A healthy Brady would eat that up.

Bottom line: Tebow needs to score at least 35 points to beat Brady. I don't think he can.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 03:49 PM

Well said, JtS. But, do you really thing the Pats' offense line can handle things THAT much better? That's why I think the by and the hurryup and short yardage strategy MAY be a factor early in. Anyone's gues, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 03:35 PM

If two Steeler Offensive linemen had not been injured in the first quarter It would have been a very different game.

Broncos went mostly with a 3 man rush and heavy secondary coverage against a limping Big Ben It worked mostly because Pouncy was out. But still, the Steelers scored 23 points.

On offense they had a couple of trick plays designed to fool Troy Polamalu. Have they used all their tricks? Do you think that The Broncos will score 29 points on the Pats? I don't, I think they will need 35 points or more to beat the Pats.

Tebow is beginning to irritate me with all of this "Miracle" stuff and I am tired of seeing him spit on the ground every time the other team has the ball. (too much attention on a guy sitting on the bench you think?) No, I think they are done next week. But then again, I and many others thought that Pittsburgh beating them was the surest bet this past weekend.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 03:11 PM

I think the Saints are the team to beat, and I don't see the SP champs coming out of the AFC. If Denver can score points and can pressure Brady, they do have a chance. I think Baltimore beats Houston if they stop the run game, and I think they will.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 03:05 PM

I'll try to keep my rant on the referees in the Denver game short... fuckin assholes! I am New Fucking Brunswick and you are ten fucking feet away and you didn't see that? You make THAT kinda money and have a health care plan and you can't afford fucking glasses? Fer FUCK SAKE!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 03:00 PM

LEJ... an "easy" time? Ahhhh... if the Pats' secondary can get healthy with the by and the receiving corps can do better than the Steelers did, they have a (fairly) better than good "chance". But I don't think it's gonna be easy. The Pats NEEDED the by.

BTW, didja see that kid Owens shadow and make plays? We must be distant cousins. I played inside cornerback and outside when need be (oh, yeah, different terminolgy). I'd say he is near as good as I used to be. Now, he might be able to shadow a Welker - THAT is a monumental task.

Finally, can the Pats' offensive line keep Brady on his feet? To me, that is the big question. I suspect The Belly will go hurryup and West Coast early with short yardage and clock management as the main objectives. After what Denver did to Ben, I jus't can't see a long game until required.

BTW, I was glad to see that last play yesterday. I was cheering for the Steelers but I got to bed early and *I* need my beauty rest. Over 7 hours straight of football is enough.

Sorry, but that IS the short version.

Easy? Nope. But, in my gut, GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Jan 12 - 02:26 PM

Its clear that I do not know Fantasy Football very well. I had already divested of my Steelers offensive players and picked up Saints when I learned that Pouncy was out. I actually switched to New Orleans Defense as well but switched back to Steelers. Had I looked closer at the scoring system I would have realized the number of defensive points that are scored when a team is behind. The Texans cleaned up on the Bengals late in the 4th quarter.

Now I'm going Saints D all the way. If the Saints go to the Super Bowl and have a big game I could still have a competitive score. But People from Louisianna who went Saints all the way from the start will still beat me.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Jan 12 - 11:31 PM

Looks like JTS won't be going to New Orleans for the Super Bowl next year.
I figured the Steelers were bound to win myself, so no gloating here. Tebow threw some very fine downfield passes, and the Broncos defense was tough when it needed to be.
I would still have to say the Patriots will have an easy time of it with our Denver boys, but I don't think anybody can really predict what Tebow and his gang will do after scoring 29 points on the top-rated defense in the NFL. I've been saying wait 'til next year for several weeks now, but the Broncos seem to be taking this playoffs thing seriously.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jan 12 - 10:29 PM

Do you kick the ball

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 12 - 08:16 PM

Well Denver pulled it out of the bucket in grand style. I must say, I do like this Tebow. But I like Brady better. >;-) We'll see next weekend.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 12 - 06:49 PM

Giants did well, despite Eli and Tom. Denver is impressive so far.

Better than that, Koe took home $43,900 in the TSN skins... amazing curling but that is what ya get when 4 world championship rinks play eh? I have NEVER seen so many rocks in play! Exciting stuff!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Jan 12 - 12:05 AM

So far my fantasy team has done well.

I picked all saints except for the defense. Defense I picked Steelers. Because I thought that the Steelers vs Bronco's Steelers might have a super defensive day. I also thought that Detroit would score more than 35 points else I would have gone with Saints defense as well.

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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 08:13 PM

That bet is purely for the money :-D

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 07:58 PM

Traitor. >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 06:45 PM

I'll bet on the US gals in the tackle football championship.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 05:59 PM

I smell a wager.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 01:45 PM

So I'a lookin at the home page of the NFL and I see an article, "New Brunswick Hosts the World".

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 12:16 PM

Raptor, Saints won't see GB until Round 3, If the Packers beat the Giants/Falcons.

The Saints, Steelers, Ravens and 49ers have the best defenses. Saints, Steelers, Ravens have played much tougher schedules, so I believe in them more.

The Pats will cream the Texans, or even the less likely Bengals
Ben's ankle will be more than able to beat the Broncos. I don't believe Broncos can score on the Pittsburgh D. The Pats D shut them down while they were in the bottom defenses 3 in the league. Ravens Steelers will be a much closer game, But I think that Ben will beat Flaco in the next round then it will be best defense in the NFL against the worst defense left in the playoffs(Pats) for the AFC Championship.

On the other side. Saints and Lions have had pretty good D's but look what Flynn did to the Lions They can be had. On the other hand look what the Saints D did to the Panthers. Saints are on the upswing. Lions are slipping. Saints by at least 14.

Like you said, It is not the 49ers year, too young, rookie head coach, Their success partly based on an easy division and an easy schedule. Brees will make some big plays with 3 pro bowlers on the NO O line and lots of weapons. Smith will have a hard time with the NO defense.

ATL and NYG are a coin flip. But Giants have the 2nd best Defense (after NO) left in the NFC. Giants are certainly on the upswing. If they play the Packers, and upset is possible.

If not, NO v Packers, the two best offenses in the league face off but N'Oleans defense is way way better. All Brees has to do is use Packer's tendency to try for the big play against them and they have a better than even chance. If they can play in the cold in Lambeau. But if it is a fairly mild day, I'm picking N'Orleans.

A N'Orleans v Steelers Superbowl will be hard to call. I'd pick the Saints if it is high scoring, Steelers if the defenses prevail.

Note that much of this is based on my thinking in drawing up my team for the nfl.com Fantasy Challenge. But I think it is more likely that these two teams will face each other than any other combination. Which is to say, there is about a 1 in 6 chance they both will make it. But if they do and Pittsburgh's Mike Wallace and Isaac Redmon have great playoff years, I will have a good chance to win a trip to the 2013 Superbowl in N'Oleans.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 09:55 AM

Tebow doesn't have a prayer. Pun intended.

Ben is bangeg up and won't last past round two.

Lions are gonna go out like lambs in The superdome..

The saints will march in to lose in Green Bay.

The falcons will get thier wingas clipped in NY.

The toxins will get line danced out.

The Bangles will bungle in the jungle.

NE will beat the ravins.

Gb will cruch my Niners.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 09:45 AM

Pats and Pack with pack to win.

I hope my 9ers go far but next year we'll get better.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 04 Jan 12 - 11:45 PM

In the Super Bowl Saints versus Broncos. Final score Saints 58 Broncos 3.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jan 12 - 09:24 PM

Pats and any comers. Hey... I gotta. Steelers were my go to team back "then"... 49ers too... but I have been a Pats fan since Boston and Moncton were linked by sailing ships and relatives further back than I even knew about Yankee football.

Yeah, I know that don't mean shit. But, the Pats are peakin... look out!

But, yeah... the Saints, Steelers, Packers... it's gonna be a show.

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Jan 12 - 06:48 PM

I'm liking Saint Vs Steelers in the big game.

Anyone else got a prediction?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 25 Dec 11 - 04:33 PM

Da Bears... da Packers? Packers. Daaaa?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 07:51 PM

Great football today! More to come!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 07:47 PM

OH YEAH!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 06:05 PM

Apparently... it was 17 zip at the half. NE came back to win. I REALLY enjoyed it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 03:21 PM

Carolina is creaming Tampa. I'm really looking forward to seeing this offense next year with a healthier defense.   

I think the Jets will win but they are pretty evenly matched.

Eagles/Cowboys will probably be a barn burner, neither team can cover the other's receivers. But Dallas is hurting at running back.

NE behind 17-10? To Miami? Are they resting their stars?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 02:40 PM

Oh, Raptor? You watchin the game?

At halftime, I have a comment to make. Branch is an old man. He must be because he's got oldtimers'... WTF was that? How on God's green earth did he not go out of bounds? $$$M a year and does that shit? I am gonna have a sore throat in the morning from yelling at the TV. I think he's gonna have a sore ass. I cannot fucking believe that.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 11:46 AM

We have to win the next two for the bye but I'll be happy not having to meet the packers too soon they will creem us. gnu the pats will squish the fish fast that wont be much of a game at all.JTS who do you like in the Jersy(NY) game?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 11:02 AM

Jets and Giants
Cowboys and Eagles

playing for playoff spots!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 10:43 AM

Dolphins at Pats today. Always an exciting game. Some other matchups look good too, but when these two meet, ya just never know.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 10:26 AM

Good luck to the red and gold. If they win out they get the first round bye don't they?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 24 Dec 11 - 09:07 AM

Today we (9ers) Face a good run team but we are the best at stopping the run.
It's good to have a team to get excitedc about after a long time of loseing.

I glad the harley didn't kill me I would have missed this.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 11 - 09:54 AM

"Check Down King" is calm, cool, and collected.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 11 - 09:50 AM

Brady is one of the ten best QBs ever. His skills are perfect for a Bill Belichick offense.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Dec 11 - 08:45 AM

And Cassel did a great job in his stead.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: GUEST,Raptor
Date: 23 Dec 11 - 08:41 AM

Brady was a nobody who replaced Bledsoe when he went down.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 11 - 01:28 AM

Are you kidding Raptor? The Pats great without Brady? I don't think so.

Manning makes a big difference to the Colts. But there are a lot of QB's who would be a lot better than those they currently fielding.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 11:56 PM

How can one team (Pats) be great with any QB (bledsoe, brady,cassel) and another (colts) be so lost without thier QB (manning)?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 11:34 PM

Fair enough, I'll keep it to myself, My apologies.

I have strong feelings about the mistreatment of the fairer sex.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 07:24 PM

JtS... cool vid. Thanks.

Raptor... we've been down that road before. That's libel. It's unproven and it's offensive to some people who read these threads. Personal friends of the man. Ya wanna start yer own thread, go ahead. That shit ain't got no place in this thread. And you know it so knock that shit off. If you got proof of your accusations, take em to the police. Otherwise, talk football... not crap.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 07:11 PM

Wow that's incredible.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 06:24 PM

check out this kid.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 10:30 AM

O.K. I'll concede that Jesus Christ might actualy care about getting Denver to win a few games but there is no way even Jesus Christ can help the Toronto Maple laughs. That is just crazy.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2011 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 08:22 AM

Tebowing in Toronto