BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision

Subject: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: Stringsinger
Date: 22 Apr 11 - 06:27 PM

Some of you, myself included, have found disappointment in the way things have been
going in Washington under Obama but his speech is so important. George Lakoff
tells us why.

It would be good to find a text of this speech and read it. It defines who we are as Americans.

http://www.alternet.org/news/150645/obama_returns_to_his_moral_vision%3A_democrats_read_carefully%21

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Apr 11 - 07:14 PM

Yes, he's always been an intelligent and inspiring speechmaker. Getting things done... not so much.

As Lakoff observes - and therein lies the rub - "He stayed within Republican issue-framing". Exactly.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Apr 11 - 07:23 PM

I donno... He got the Affordable Care Act thru which rivals Medicare when it was passed... He got a $700 stimulis thru... He ended Don't-ask-don't-tell...

I mean, he has gotten a lot done...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Apr 11 - 09:50 PM

Sorry, Bobert, I don't see those as great achievements.

He took universal care off the table without even discussing it.

The "stimulus" was a huge giveaway of our money to Boss Hog who didn't deserve it. You heard about their profits and bonuses? Bigger than ever.

I'll give him Don't-ask-don't-tell.

But what he's done most is cave in, it looks to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Apr 11 - 11:32 PM

CLick On Through

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 11:41 AM

Good link, Kat!

What Obama has done is try to set a good example by playing fair, by the rules. The GOP is still playing by Cheney's rules. That's the trouble. The gloves need to come off.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 12:59 PM

Slaughtering people in Libya by authorising the use of military "drones"......he just loves those things doesn't he?

I was beginning to warm to him with his personal stance on Homosexual marriage, but "drone warfare" is poison as far as I am concerned.....how can it possibly defensive?

He is allowing himself to be pushed and bullied by friends and foes alike.....he needs to grow some balls or get out.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 01:36 PM

What is that??..To be another bullshitting candidate???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 01:41 PM

Some people are too damn' lazy - or perhaps, fearful? - to click on that link.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 03:40 PM

Drones certainly cure paralysis

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 03:55 PM

There is no doubt that the operators of Predator drones can make - and have made - mistakes. That is true of any weapons system, including the M-1 club. On the other hand, its ability to cruise at less than a 100 miles an hour while the operator identifies his target with a telescopic lens and laser-designates it for the onboard missiles certainly gives it greater accuracy than that of an attack jet that is moving ten times as fast.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision
From: Greg F.
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 05:33 PM

Moral Vision? Methinks its over time he made a visit to his optometrist.

Which is not to say that he isn't head and shoulders above the Tea-Publicans in the morality department.