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Faversham hop festival 2011

GUEST,FloraG 19 Aug 11 - 03:08 PM
GUEST,FloraG 20 Aug 11 - 04:35 AM
Richard Bridge 20 Aug 11 - 06:48 AM
melodeonboy 20 Aug 11 - 09:29 AM
GUEST,FloraG 20 Aug 11 - 10:11 AM
melodeonboy 20 Aug 11 - 11:31 AM
sapper82 21 Aug 11 - 04:20 AM
Dead Horse 21 Aug 11 - 09:46 AM
Essex Girl 22 Aug 11 - 06:49 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 22 Aug 11 - 07:35 AM
GUEST,FloraG 22 Aug 11 - 01:23 PM
GUEST,FloraG 02 Sep 11 - 03:15 AM
Abdul The Bul Bul 02 Sep 11 - 06:09 AM
GUEST 02 Sep 11 - 08:43 AM
Richard Bridge 02 Sep 11 - 09:59 AM
billybob 02 Sep 11 - 10:14 AM
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Don(Wyziwyg)T 04 Sep 11 - 09:02 AM
GUEST,FloraG 04 Sep 11 - 02:37 PM
GUEST,FloraG 05 Sep 11 - 03:45 AM
banjoman 05 Sep 11 - 06:34 AM
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Subject: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 03:08 PM

The faversham hop festival is going ahead this year the first weekend in September but with less council funding and run by a group of volunteers - most of whom are linked to the faversham Folk club.

It will be the usual mix of street acts, brewery tours and pub dos. Its a nice day out. There is a stall that sells the best ever game pies.

The Bull is the pub hosting the day time session- both saturday and sunday - hoping for a mix of singers, players and drinkers, who can bring their instruments and favourite songs along to share with the rest of us.
FloraG.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 20 Aug 11 - 04:35 AM

refresh
I promised Earnie - one of the voluntary organisers - that I would put this on Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Aug 11 - 06:48 AM

Miss Otis


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: melodeonboy
Date: 20 Aug 11 - 09:29 AM

And should you be at a loose end between finishing brekky and going to the session on Sunday, come and see Jumbo Gumbo on the Preston Street stage at 10.45 (a.m., of course!).


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 20 Aug 11 - 10:11 AM

Does 10.45 exist on a sunday?


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: melodeonboy
Date: 20 Aug 11 - 11:31 AM

I'm not sure. Perhaps it's a virtual gig!


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: sapper82
Date: 21 Aug 11 - 04:20 AM

Sadly, I've only ever made it to the '91 festival, but one of the memories I have is ofthe breakfast queue on the Sunday morning.

A young lady was stood waiting in front of me, still wearing her nightie, when a stray dog, sniffinf arround as stray dogs do, came over and sniffed up her bum. With the sudden application of a cold, wet nose, the poor lass nearly went into orbit!!!


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Dead Horse
Date: 21 Aug 11 - 09:46 AM

When she came down, did she slap your face Sapper? :-)


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Essex Girl
Date: 22 Aug 11 - 06:49 AM

We will be there with the Morris sides and will try to make it to the Bull at lunchtime.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Aug 11 - 07:35 AM

Self and Poetry Bird will be hanging out at the Bull all Saturday afternoon.

Don T


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 22 Aug 11 - 01:23 PM

Look forward to seeing you Don. I think Sidmouth was the last time we played together.
essex Girl - enjoyed your singing last year in the C and A. Hope you can make it as we need lots of people
- to have a good session
- to convince the good people of faversham that folk is woth keeping in the hop festival.
FloraG


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 03:15 AM

Festival starts today - camping from 5 pm.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 06:09 AM

Hope to be there Saturday before my stewarding stint starts at 3
Al


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 08:43 AM

While you're all having a good time (and I hope you will!) do tell folks about this:

http://intheboatshed.net/2011/08/26/hollowshore-in-danger-please-lodge-your-obje

Gavin


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 09:59 AM

Hi Gav. I have twatted (or whatever the past tense of "to tweet" is) that.

Looks almost nice enough to drive down tonight and sit in the field under an umbrella and sing.

Is anything happening in the Elephant tonight?


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: billybob
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 10:14 AM

Have fun, wish we could be there
Wendy


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: billybob
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 10:15 AM

Meant to also ask is the "Earnie" my old friend Earnie from the Faversham folk club and Headcorn Morris?


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 09:02 AM

Thanks to Flora for running a really enjoyable singaround at the Bull Inn.

Self and Clive enjoyed it immensely, as did Poetry Bird (Winnie T), and we got to perform more songs and poems than usual as the audience way outnumbered the performers.

The pub garden is great and the landlord very pleasant and helpful.

I hope this will be repeated next year and maybe even appear on the website to attract more performers.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 02:37 PM

Thanks for your kind words Don. The landlord has intimated that he would be willing to do the same again next year. The sunday session was equally good but we had to have it indoors because it kept threatening to rain.

A special thanks to the Old Trout band who came from Hampshire to help run the session.

Saturday evening session was good. I was a bit worried as the friday evening session had been ruined by some musos starting a tune session in an adjacent area of the pub half way through our session. The din became so loud that only a few loud voiced singers could cope. I was surprised at this rudeness as I thought most folkies more polite but someone who knew a few of the people who started the session said ' what do you expect from that lot'. Well, I expect better.
FloraG.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 03:45 AM

I forgot to thank dead horse morris for doing the lunch time session at the bull on Saturday as they had promised at broadstairs. Thank you Dead Horse morris. The only shame of it was we did not get to do a few songs or tunes together as you had to be off elsewhere.
The band have barn dances booked that clash with the next few festivals in Kent - so see you at sweeps to thank you in person.
FloraG.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: banjoman
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 06:34 AM

Thanks Flora - Maggie & I had a surprisingly quick journey home to Hampshire. We thouroughly enjoyed the weekend and only wish it could have gone on a bit longer.
Please keep in touch as we will probably be organising something for Maggie;s ??*** Birthday in November.

Thanks again ( Enjoyed the Game Pie)
Pete (OTB)


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 09:41 AM

Every festival should promote its culinary delight.
FloraG


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,synbyn
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 12:02 PM

Glad that the Bull sessions went well, Flora- as a member of 'that lot', (Friday) which included several Faversham residents and some of your friends from Bishops Gundulf, I can only say that, observing that there wasn't space for all of us in your session a room in the back seemed an acceptable option, as it was some distance away and separated by door/ curtain ... we couldn't hear your session from there and were rather surprised by your frankly aggressive approach. For the future, if you had said something along the lines of "Excuse me, I'm afraid your sound is coming through into our session" I think there would have been a general apology and resolution. Your domineering approach made that unlikely. We (and I include myself in this) should always remember that we are guests in the town.

However, I had earlier in the day posted the whereabouts of the weekend Bull sessions on a Facebook string asking where the folk music was, and continued from the merchandising stall to direct interested parties to the Bull. I gather that several made their way along and enjoyed themselves in the bar area on Saturday, and others were there on Sunday. That is what you can expect from 'that lot', who keep a regular folk presence alive in Faversham every week of the year.

Right of reply exercised- 'nuff said.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 02:01 PM

I can't believe that anyone would not know that several boxes all playing together plus other instruments would not be rather loud. I've got some loud instruments myself, and fortunately some tolerant neighbours.
Our session was not full - there have been years in the past when it has been so. We have always made everyone welcome, and done a mixture of tunes and songs, although it has tended to be mostly unaccompanied singing. To not join the session that was already going on and set up a competing session in an area of the pub that was not totally seperate, struck me as inconsiderate at best.   
The reason we go to the Hop Festival is that we have always enjoyed the sessions in the Crown and Anchor so much. It was for this reason that I offered to act as a volunteer during the day with the sessions. I was really pleased when the music group went elsewhere on the saturday night, so hpefully, problem solved.
FloraG.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 02:24 PM

Perhaps the Elephant would welcome some on a Saturday. The last time I went there on a Hop Fest Saturday it was most welcoming.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 04:29 AM

From what I have read in the past fewer and fewer pubs do welcome acoustic sessions. Partly I think it is because musicians are so busy playing they forget to drink. Also to a non folkie audience, a lot of sessions are extremely boring to listen to.

We were very fortunate with both the Bull sessions as both times we had musicians and singers who chose material that would please the audience.

As an experienced session person, I try to be concious of the noise we make since I got it very wrong at Broadstairs one year. As a paid band we were asked to lead an evening session in the Neptune garden. It was a great evening - we did it acoustically and lots of others joined in. I only afterwards found out that the lower room in the neptune had traditionally been used for a sing around, and the garden gig made it difficult for them. I was not aware that they had a session there at the time. As a band you just tend to turn up and do whats asked. Since then I've always tried to check on noise levels that might annoy others -from keeping windows and doors closed if need be, to not playing the bombard. I assumed other experienced session people did the same.
FloraG.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 04:43 AM

I don't think I have ever heard folkies criticised for lack of drinking before. With luck it looks as if my Lower Stoke Winter Sings will be kept on by the new tenants precisely because we used often to shift an entire barrel in the course of one afternoon from noon to about 6 pm, on a Sunday when otherwise the pub would be very quiet.

I also think that the problem about "the wrong sort of music" has tended to be at the mass-market festivals like Sweeps and Faversham, the latter, we are often told, not being a folk festival, although I would concede that it is also a problem at Broadstairs. The pubs have the idea (the correctness of which I rather doubt) that ramming in "yoof" to sweat to electric rock will make more money.

But to return to the current topic of this thread, I would also expect that if there was a sound overlap problem, a tactful and polite mention would be likely to be the most productive approach. I was not present so do not directly know whether that was the case on this occasion.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: banjoman
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 06:07 AM

I was at the session in the Crown & Anchor on the Friday evening and I am a bit surprised at some of the reactions above. Had I been running the singaround they would have learnt what agressive was. The response from "synbin" that There was a curtain or door is a lame excuse for downright rudeness as the door was being frequently opened & closed, and there was no curtain that I could see. Flora did not adopt an agressive attitude but was very polite in pointing out that they (That Lot) were disrupting the singaround. The fact that they could not hear us was because they were so loud. You were welcome to join in as there was still plenty of room and we could have expanded the singaround if necessary to accomodate you. I travelled a long way to be at Faversham and to support Flora at the singarounds, and to have such rubbish as expressed by "Faversham residents" makes me wonder if us "Outsiders" are not welcome at the Hop Festival


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 06:49 AM

Perhaps, I speculate, those who were in the other room (which is I think as far as you can go on the ground floor of that pub from that which is usual for the singaround) felt that they might have been unwelcome in the singaround - which is above said to be largely for unaccompanied singers. They clearly state that there was not enough room for them in the singaround. I have in the past used the smoking area to play, as a matter of choice, but it could also have been used in a spirit of amiable co-operation if present.

I am not at all sure that offering to display true aggression is a really rational and constructive approach.

As far as I know the singaround although habitual is not a programmed item.


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 06:49 AM

Well I should pay more attention,I turned up at the Crown and Anchor at 12 on Saturday to find it almost empty, so had a pint and waited then buggered off to do stewarding duties. Found out later of course that I should have been to the Bull.
Al


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Subject: RE: Faversham hop festival 2011
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 07:52 AM

I'm sorry we missed you Abdul. Another time.

The evening sing around has never been a programmed item. We did ask permission of the landlord before we started - it must be 15 years ago now. We have been back ever since and always made welcome. I think if the music playaround had been going before we had got there that would have been our tough luck. I just thought it very odd - and a bit rude - to spoil one session by starting another half way through the evening. It wasn't me who said ' what do you expect of that lot'.
Although the session tends to be mostly unaccompanied singers it has never been exclusive or precious. After all - they put up with me playing whatever instrument I happpen to take along.

The musos did not turn up on Saturday - so I like to think that they thought better of what they had done and found their own venue. If they were mosly locals then they should know the other suitable venues.
FloraG.


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